Grand Old Thread: League of Legends!

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I seriously hate the chinese art for this game. There are only a couple that I actually like better.

For what reason?

 

[_Dice]

Logs into vent to play with people. dan is busy, ends up alone.

 

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For what reason?/COLOR]

The Chinese art is too high quality.

That's the only reason I can think of.

 

[Shaya]

So I've been running 21/9/0 on most of my ranged carries.
I also get dodge yellows and quints.

I feel like this lapse of common sense (4.5% constant move speed compared to 10% buff from dodge; I used to be a huge movement speed quints fan ) has hit me like a truck. Someone like Ezreal/MF/etc who really capitalise on multiple aas for laning harass and who's harass abilities proc minion aggro it just like "works".
if I auto attack an enemy ranged carry, I'm likely guaranteed to be auto attacked by minions, I have a high likelihood of getting that dodge movement speed proc. Having the bonus 10% on a ranged carry gets me an extra auto attack or TWO in nearly every situation of harass early game. With MF who's crux of her harass comes from minions ruining her passive, being given that proc after losing her passive makes up for it.

It also scales into late game ridiculously well...

 

[DMG]

Why run dodge quints when you could run AD AS or Armor Pen? I mean dodge up to a certain point fine, but that's going out of the way further than you should be imo.

 

[john!]

i couldn't imagine not taking ANY points in utility. i already get 21 utility on like 70% of the heroes i play. that tree bears great fruit

 

[Shaya]

Why run dodge quints when you could run AD AS or Armor Pen? I mean dodge up to a certain point fine, but that's going out of the way further than you should be imo.

Actually, my mistake, I haven't been running dodge quints, flat ad too OP.

And yeah, I used to be a utility nut.
But the exp thing means very little to most laners.
And one point in buff extension isn't that amazing.
plus 21 offence was buffed all those patches ago.

To me, the better I 'feel' I get, the less reliance I have on things such as mana regen, especially when you're not in solo lanes.
And I do run ezreal in solos when I can, but in those cases I usually get manamune.

The other cool things about Utility:
1. Mana regen: was nerfed pretty hard... comparable mana regen in shop is less than 200 gold.
2. Buff Duration: You aren't holding blue buff unless you're soloing, and most junglers are better to hold onto red buffs until later-ish anyway.
3. Movement Speed: This is the main crux of why I used to love utility tree. Movement quints + this = 328 movement speed without boots on Ezreal. But... I get more than this from the dodge mastery.. while also giving me an amazing defensive laning stat in the current meta (aa harassing supports, aa harassing carries and aa harassing minions, and a majority of junglers being AA based-ish too). Little extra points in armor or magic resist in the masteries doesn't hurt either.
4. Summoner spell reductions: well I would rarely go down this far on ranged carries (I used to run stuff like 12/0/18 or 15/0/15 in the past). Its useful I agree.
5. Cool down reduction: CDR isn't as hard to itemise as it used to be.

 

[DanGR]

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[Ignatius]

Or Karthus.

 

[JTB]

Xerath opinions?

 

[DanGR]

Of what I saw, he looked pretty weak early in lane, but really strong elsewhere. That range is too good.

Like always I'll have to buy him and play him myself tho. Lots of folk said Rumble was weak when he came out, and he looked sort of weak from a distance. Then I bought him and played him a little and I began thinking "O.o. How wasn't this hotfixed?"

 

[DarkDragoon]

Although I haven't gotten on all day to play against one, I would think that his considerable startup time to harass you with that lightning bolt thing would make it pretty easy to get out of the way.

-DD

 

[_Dice]

Although I haven't gotten on all day to play against one, I would think that his considerable startup time to harass you with that lightning bolt thing would make it pretty easy to get out of the way.

-DD

it's about as easy to avoid as brands pillar. pretty much if you have boots you are fine. if not. meh you get hit.

 

[solecalibur]

He seems very underrated right now
I have the exact opposite in opinions.
Positioning is the key and think of his Q like EZ skill shots
Also he can leash blue like 2 feet away from his mid turret with out his w
Give him time and give a high elo player time

 

[jpak]

Or you could pull a jpak and go support with your ranged carries.

haha it should work if i have a gap closer in my lane

Actually, my mistake, I haven't been running dodge quints, flat ad too OP.

And yeah, I used to be a utility nut.
But the exp thing means very little to most laners.
And one point in buff extension isn't that amazing.
plus 21 offence was buffed all those patches ago.

Death timer reduction is really good..
Exp mastery is good too, if you reach a higher level than the other enemy's duo lane you can do lots of things
Buff duration is good if you plan to ever have a blue or red if not then ok!
Dodge instead of armor is good tho =D

 

[DUB]

Have yet to see a Xerath do anything. Lee Sin stronk forever.

 

[AprilShaw]

The Chinese art is too high quality.

That's the only reason I can think of.

The Chinese art changes the personality of a lot of the characters. Some of it is super badass though (like Festival Kassadin), but a lot of it is just... meh (Morgana is a perfect example, I hate her Chinese art. But I also hate her new art. Old Morgana was too good).

Shadow Prince Malzahar's a specific example that comes to mind. The Chinese art for it is pretty, but it's totally not the bad-***, super-powerful master of the void, which the American art shows really well.

 

[UTDZac]

Hey, Zac

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjNTBrw1rvw&feature=channel_video_title

EDIT: I will have that music be my new in-game music from now on too!!

 

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So I've been running 21/9/0 on most of my ranged carries.
I also get dodge yellows and quints.

I feel like this lapse of common sense (4.5% constant move speed compared to 10% buff from dodge; I used to be a huge movement speed quints fan ) has hit me like a truck. Someone like Ezreal/MF/etc who really capitalise on multiple aas for laning harass and who's harass abilities proc minion aggro it just like "works".
if I auto attack an enemy ranged carry, I'm likely guaranteed to be auto attacked by minions, I have a high likelihood of getting that dodge movement speed proc. Having the bonus 10% on a ranged carry gets me an extra auto attack or TWO in nearly every situation of harass early game. With MF who's crux of her harass comes from minions ruining her passive, being given that proc after losing her passive makes up for it.

It also scales into late game ridiculously well...

I remember that dodge yellows were standard on carries when I started playing. Man, I'm old now

edit: wow the LoL community is ********. Look at how many upvotes this thread has <_<
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=1326482

Although I haven't gotten on all day to play against one, I would think that his considerable startup time to harass you with that lightning bolt thing would make it pretty easy to get out of the way.

-DD

This is what people said about Cait's Q.

The Chinese art changes the personality of a lot of the characters. Some of it is super badass though (like Festival Kassadin), but a lot of it is just... meh (Morgana is a perfect example, I hate her Chinese art. But I also hate her new art. Old Morgana was too good).

Shadow Prince Malzahar's a specific example that comes to mind. The Chinese art for it is pretty, but it's totally not the bad-***, super-powerful master of the void, which the American art shows really well.

Ok, but some are fine and don't change the champ at all. Examples:
[collapse=There's Ryze...]

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[collapse=...and Alistar...]

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[collapse=...and Garen, who's literally the same picture, just better]

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Basically, while maybe some of it takes a new direction with the art, I'd say there's still a lot of better ones out there, and even when it's the same picture China wins because it's of a higher detail.

 

[Circa]

Woke up this morning, logged onto the main account I've been using as of late, got into a game, and my face immediately went from a little tired to o.o

I suddenly had Anivia, Blitz, Corki, Mundo, GP, Jax, Kass, Yi, Shaco, Sion, Soraka, Taric, TF, and Twitch unlocked. And I hadn't lost any IP and had the same amount of RP I had from the night before.

I know that people who used the Mac Client were supposed to get the Champions Bundle (I got all of them except for Heimer...for whatever reason), but I've literally never used the Mac Client on this account. <.<

I have been using the account on my Mac via Bootcamp, but I wouldn't think that would make me eligible at all, would it?

 

[Wave⁂]

I raged at Chinese Garen

 

[-Vocal-]

I raged at Chinese Garen

Why? Because of how much better it is?

 

[Mogwai]

For what reason?

1. what CABC said
2. they're just a completely different art style from the game. this was fine when it was translating this:

to this:

but graffics are at the point where in game graphics styles are willfully chosen, rather than being a product of the technical limitations. in others words, LoL looks cartoony because it wants to look cartoony and trying to change this to a more realistic art style isn't good for splash art (completely OK for fanart though, as deviations in style there aren't jarring since it's completely out of the game).
3. they make for TERRIBLE icons on the minimap and in various other parts of the GUI. It pisses me off enough that Riven and Ezreal look exactly the same at a short glance, but all of the chinese icons in the GUI look like **** to me and I can't figure out who the **** that is on the minimap without staring at it for a second (too damn long).

The Chinese art is too high quality.

That's the only reason I can think of.

yes, because it's so common to hate something for being good...

I remember that dodge yellows were standard on carries when I started playing. Man, I'm old now

dodge yellows were standard on literally everyone at that point. the shift from dodge -> armor was at roughly the same time as the shift from dodge -> mana regen/level.

 

[john!]

3. they make for TERRIBLE icons on the minimap and in various other parts of the GUI. It pisses me off enough that Riven and Ezreal look exactly the same at a short glance, but all of the chinese icons in the GUI look like **** to me and I can't figure out who the **** that is on the minimap without staring at it for a second (too damn long).

that's probably because we're used to the american splash art. a chinese player would have a hard time identifying our icons unless they were familiar with them.

 

[jpak]

WE and Ehome are on the US servers too, just not under the same names you saw on the IEM stream. Most of them are in the top 50 for 5s like shark prince is a player from WE

 

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that's probably because we're used to the american splash art. a chinese player would have a hard time identifying our icons unless they were familiar with them.

He's right. I played with the Chinese icons for a while and got used to them after a little while. Anywho, I can see your qualms, though I don't have problems with the differing art styles in and out of game. Except for one particular pair, but I can't remember who

 

[AprilShaw]

that's probably because we're used to the american splash art. a chinese player would have a hard time identifying our icons unless they were familiar with them.

They're also a lot more cluttered in general

Basically, while maybe some of it takes a new direction with the art, I'd say there's still a lot of better ones out there, and even when it's the same picture China wins because it's of a higher detail.

Higher detail in this case doesn't look that great, in my opinion. Of the 3 you posted the only one I like more than the original art is the Garen one, and that's not because of the extra detail on the armor, just more vibrant colors.

Overall, I'm a big fan of the US artwork. I also like how with a character's skins, they usually keep the same pose between all the pictures. Or at least, they used to. Before, when the pose changed from the classic skin it was serious business... as in, a legendary skin. Now random 520 RP recolors get it, which I'm not a fan of haha.

 

[Mogwai]

I'll admit that I do like Chinese Kassadin's base skin a lot.

Anyway, Renekton is a funny *******, I think I'm gonna be playing him a lot more.

 

[PhantomX]

Renekton is super fun. His strength still hasn't caught on in solo queue either, which is awesome. I kind of want to try that Renekton/Swain bottom lane... seems like it would be awful for a carry/support.

 

[Mogwai]

it's just tough to get a strong midgame out of that lane if you don't get kills.

 

[@TKbreezy]

so after combining what both Px and Mog said

I don't start with dblades anymore I get that wriggles first

then phage then wits then bloodrazer. then banshees (with zerkers/mercs somewhere in there)

much easier starting time starting with boots and 3 pots.

 

[Omni]

Woke up this morning, logged onto the main account I've been using as of late, got into a game, and my face immediately went from a little tired to o.o

I suddenly had Anivia, Blitz, Corki, Mundo, GP, Jax, Kass, Yi, Shaco, Sion, Soraka, Taric, TF, and Twitch unlocked. And I hadn't lost any IP and had the same amount of RP I had from the night before.

I know that people who used the Mac Client were supposed to get the Champions Bundle (I got all of them except for Heimer...for whatever reason), but I've literally never used the Mac Client on this account. <.<

I have been using the account on my Mac via Bootcamp, but I wouldn't think that would make me eligible at all, would it?

I better have my Bundle some time this week!

 

[Mogwai]

so after combining what both Px and Mog said

I don't start with dblades anymore I get that wriggles first

then phage then wits then bloodrazer. then banshees (with zerkers/mercs somewhere in there)

much easier starting time starting with boots and 3 pots.

if you're talking about Teemo, boots first is #1. he's got enough damage without opening dblade and his whole game is keep-away, so you need to be faster than your lane opponent.

 

[@TKbreezy]

you told me a long time ago to start with dblades......>.>

unless I missread. either way you right. boots start da bess

EWEQER? (because thats what i've been doing till 6) and I max W before Q but I grab an extra point in Q at 7 first.

 

[Mogwai]

I get 2 dblades, but I open boots + 3 pots first and then back for my 2 dblades around 1.1K gold (so that I can restock pots and wards).

and yes, your skill order is correct.

 

[UTDZac]

I get 2 dblades, but I open boots + 3 pots first and then back for my 2 dblades around 1.1K gold (so that I can restock pots and wards).

and yes, your skill order is correct.

You buy wards with teemo too?

oh jeez

 

[ArcNatural]

you told me a long time ago to start with dblades......>.>

unless I missread. either way you right. boots start da bess

EWEQER? (because thats what i've been doing till 6) and I max W before Q but I grab an extra point in Q at 7 first.

Also should point out that long time ago may have been when you could get doran + pots.

 

[jiovanni007]

I think I'm in love with TT now.

Need advice, what yellows should I run on Morg. Weened myself off of mp5/lvl blues, now time to ween myself off of mp5/lvl yellows too. Suggestions?

 

[Mogwai]

AP/level and Armor are the most used Seals on Mages.

 

[jpak]

You would do that when you don't have a golem buff and probably won't build roa?