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Ignatius

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He also rescinded it after the game, saying he couldn't believe he said that Cho was good after seeing his items.
 

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What is this build? I'm looking to jungle cho, just bought a runepage to make for it.

What runes/items/skills should I run Casey?
 

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What is this build? I'm looking to jungle cho, just bought a runepage to make for it.

What runes/items/skills should I run Casey?
my hybrid page, zac optimized it like a god!!!

His advice gave me like 5 free ap :p



And lol hotshot was just mad I didn't go tanky. I carried his *** early, and he Singed late. Yay singed :O
 

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What items? I assume I max spikes first
 

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Regi just pretty much said

"Bad luck happens".

I had very bad luck at the start of this season... pretty much lost my first 8 games.
:(
My shaco had a ****ing ZERO PERCENT WIN RATE. after like 5 games.


sooo much pain.

Then i pub stomped with shaco for 250 elo gain.
BUT IT WAS ****ING SLOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
 

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Actually it is an issue for me:

1. I don't want to play that many games again
2. Going up 12/13 elo per game is gay compared to 20-40.

i wouldn't give a flying crap about bad starts if the elo gain once I got some win streaks wasn't pitiful :(
 

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Regi just pretty much said

"Bad luck happens".

I had very bad luck at the start of this season... pretty much lost my first 8 games.
:(
My shaco had a ****ing ZERO PERCENT WIN RATE. after like 5 games.


sooo much pain.

Then i pub stomped with shaco for 250 elo gain.
BUT IT WAS ****ING SLOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
he said elo hell exists. that's not elo hell, that's just impatience.

also, he asked if "********" is offensive to autistic people.
 

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"elo hell" isn't the idea that you're stuck below your true elo forever

it's the idea that you get bad luck at the start of a season and have to put in 10x more time and effort to get to your true elo than most people do.

it happened to me during season 1 and apparently it's happening to shaya during season 2.
 

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i still haven't started :p i'm still at the elo that all the 1500-1600 players got reset to, so i'm waiting for them to trickle up lol

i'm trying to perfect my lane dominance with swain and cassiopeia before i start. solo mid is my preferred role and is the only way i can be sure to carry a game.
 

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Regardless of what people see it as, it doesn't stop it from being a giant and annoying excuse.

Suck it up and play.
 

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really? I don't think we can be friends anymore :(

seriously, he sounds like such a ****ing moron, acts like he's 12, zz.
I don't know he puts a ton of content out to the community and for the most part is more enjoyable to watch make Vlogs then any other top player I've watched them for.

And you know we can still be friends baby <3 see you at RoM.
 

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Eh.

I would put a lot of my losses (and even wins) at player's disconnecting. These occur a lot less the higher you go. I would say 1/3rd to a half of games I've played in this season have had a game changing disconnect.
elo hell john.

I would put a lot of the frustration of losses (and even wins) at player's not knowing how to win ('group up and push while they're ****ing around' wins every time at 1300-1500 elo, sub that its unlikely to be possible to coordinate). This causes games to always go for 40-50 minutes as teams refuse to surrender and I will keep going (singlehandedly elongating games by playing smart - but the likelihood of a comeback is chaos incarnate).
Elo hell john (seriously ****ing hate every game I play in being 40-50 minutes)

Now... "BAD PLAYERS" or "TROLLS".
"Trolls" is not an elo hell john, they exist everywhere.
BAD PLAYERS - cause extreme frustration (i.e. my second elo hell john) but if you're better than the elo you're in, you should be carrying harder.
However, the ability to carry harder is chaos incarnate.
 

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i'm sorry for all you guys

whenever i duo queue, i seem to get the worst teams and everything just goes wrong

however, i've been soloing, and i'm like 12-2. everything just seems to go well for my team and the other team has all the feeders/whatever
 

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Yeah, that helps a lot.
IMO Jungling is not as 'good' as you'd think. Most junglers can't turn a lost lane around - nor can they gank without either coming out at a loss (time/health/potential death) or gaining nothing (your lane can't even join the fight).

Jungling snow balls, but my god its hard to gank a lane where its like "OMG CANT DO ANYTHING OR I DIE HURP GAREN" so my team mate is always under half while the enemy is at full getting free farm.

What are you meant to do to help that? A lot of laners can ensure their safety to avoid backlash.
 

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that teammates is lost anyway. I cringe whenever I see someone going top vs. a Garen with less than 30 armor. So I just rice the jungle and feed off of other ****. It's a super rare game where you can't at least abuse 1 lane with XZ/WW/Noct ganks.
What do you use/run for Xin Zhao? Also for GP (if you have jungled him)? Those are the next 2 junglers I'm going to be practicing in normals once I get the hang of Nocturne. Nocturne to me is so much easier to play soloQ normals than premade 5s. I always pubstomp one way and do pretty poorly to "ok" in the other. Probably because my normal elo is lower.

I think that will pretty much round out being familiar with all the main junglers.
 

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I can say with full confidence that after the reset, elo hell is everywhere. I've been front page, all the way down to 1500, back up to 1600s, I can't remember the last game where everyone wasn't an enormous pile of ****, and just said GGs. :/

Also, I find the most success in either jungling, or soloing as an AP carry. Duo just doesn't let you accomplish what you need to in order to win, imo.
 

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Dekar what do you do for early levels abliities for Cho jungle? I've jungled Cho before typically 0-21-9 because I typically pick Cho or Amumu as my tanky jungles. My jungle clearing time is atrocious though. I'm saving the ip to try out your page but I don' t really know what to run on him either to get the fast clear time.
 

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I feel I only think i'm jungling decently cause i'm using fiddlesticks.
I never start at blue buff though. Two golems, Wolves, Wraiths then golem and either gank or dragon at level 5. (though the last few times i've taken dragon I was at level 7 and i'd finally B when I have over 3k gold)
Since I intend to get Shaco as AD for sure, i'll test out his jungling I guess and see if it isn't just a fluke.
 

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Going from Fiddles to Shaco is quite a leap lol. Shaco is one of the harder junglers to be effective with.
 

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What do you use/run for Xin Zhao? Also for GP (if you have jungled him)? Those are the next 2 junglers I'm going to be practicing in normals once I get the hang of Nocturne. Nocturne to me is so much easier to play soloQ normals than premade 5s. I always pubstomp one way and do pretty poorly to "ok" in the other. Probably because my normal elo is lower.

I think that will pretty much round out being familiar with all the main junglers.
Xin

21/0/9, my AD Jungle Runepage, smite flash

dblade or boots to do a level 2 gank, vamp scepter to farm jungle

double gols -> (level 2 gank optional) -> wraiths -> wolves -> blue -> back and buy -> small gol first full clear

post wriggle's + boots, get phage, then play the game by ear. I tend to do Wriggle's Triforce Wit's End GA and another tanking item, but I tend to do that on WW/Irelia too because it's just a very strong carrying bruiser build.


I don't really play GP, but everything seems to be vamp scepter -> wolves first small clear -> full clear -> wriggle's triforce with heavy ganking once you have red.
 

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Also, I find the most success in either jungling, or soloing as an AP carry. Duo just doesn't let you accomplish what you need to in order to win, imo.
Duo increases the number of people you know to be competent going in blind from 1 to 2, but even then its not always enough. I remember once Zac and Juan were in queue, and I queue'd up since it was late at night and we got on the same team. But then we had someone super feed mid and that game was over pretty fast.
 

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Duo increases the number of people you know to be competent going in blind from 1 to 2, but even then its not always enough. I remember once Zac and Juan were in queue, and I queue'd up since it was late at night and we got on the same team. But then we had someone super feed mid and that game was over pretty fast.
I think he meant going bottom in solo queue, not duo queueing. And I feel the same way as he, I find carrying in solo queue impossible from bot lane.
 

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Should I:

- Save up to buy Vayne
- Buy Heimer
- Buy Shaco

Vayne 'cuz I want an Ashe replacement and she's a solo-mid carry.
Heimer because he's ****ing fun and pushes turrets like a boss.
Or Shaco because he seems to be a great counterjungler and the only jungler I have at the moment is Amumu.
 
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