he's pretty dumb, you just gotta counterpick him in lane so that he can't get ahead early. I recommend Morde, WW, Udyr or Cassiopeia.
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Damage reduction
Damage focus ability
Retreat
Initiator
AOE damage to make sure he isn't ignored.
seems like an ideal tank kit. enough damage to make sure he isn't just ignored and is actually targetted, and then alot of ways to keep surviving and initiate.
He outlanes WW/Udyr if you max W instead of E.
EDIT: thought i was editing this in. my b.
trololololno teemo don't! You're gonna get pyromania'd!
I went 20/6/18 udyr and lost because at the last sec my bad team wanted to seprerate and died 1 by 1....
only CC is an ult. only damage mitigation is a passive and a move for running away. Everything does damage. it's tanky dps at best on the tanky spectrum. I mean, ****, it's a worse tanking kit than Garen and you'd be hard pressed to find someone who still calls Garen a tank.
and for the record, a dash with no CC associated with it is definitely not something I'd consider an initiator (is Leap Strike an initiator? alpha strike? shadow dance?).
I only ever see them max E, so I guess I can't comment with any certainty on this. I just really doubt that he'll be able to keep up with either of them.
Oh, also Trundle's a funny Yorick counter. Dat passive yo, lol.
I heard from someone that Morello said somewhere the elo rest is going to be Tuesday. Anyone else hear anything?
Sonic The Hedgedawg
Smash Hero
I go gunblade, sorc boots, spirit visage, rylais, abyssal and then either sunfire or zhonya's normally.
Still robust but also fairly damaging.
Yeah trundle makes yorick really upset lol.
and i guess its up to the numbers whether or not his kit is tanky.
and leap strike alpha strike shadow dance all are on very non tanky characters whose rest of their kits clearly have no tanky concept to them.
if you put alpha strike on galio you'd have an initiating spell.
And Yorick with W first pretty much hurts any character that needs to get close to something (creep wave/champ) in order to have sustainability. since a lvled W followed by E does a good few hundred damage and makes it very hard to either get back after healing or get up to the wave in order to heal.
but morde/cass/trundle definitely can hurt yorick alot. trist causes yorick issues too weirdly enough.
but.... zzzz, his illusion is very reminiscent of Akali dropping shroud in what it allows you to do. I can't imagine his passive being much more impressive in terms of Armor/Mres than the bonuses that Akali gets from being under shroud. I'm just not seeing the tank there. and like, Jax between Passive, Dodge and Ult's active has as much (if not more) tankiness as Monkey King on paper + he also technically has AoE CC too (and on a shorter CD to boot!)
Monkey King on paper is Melee DPS assassin with trixsies, with an awkward spin2win ult that feels vaguely like it should be on a tank.
Sonic The Hedgedawg
Smash Hero
throw the word "AP" in there and doesn't that sound like you're describing Katarina?
no, Kat's ult doesn't have CC on it, it's just massive damage. nothing really tanky about it if you ask me.
Sonic The Hedgedawg
Smash Hero
OMG blow all your CC on the thing right in the center of the battle right now.
Drawing CC is a tanky function... not saying Kat has the kit of a tank, but her ult is practically a taunt.
if he does magic damage he could have pretty decent slow abilities with Rylai's. but i really do think it depends on the Numbers. IF his ult does little damage compared to CC and his blink in spell has high cooldown while his Q has little cooldown he would seem alot like a tank and if his passive numbers are high enough too.
ok, well then every carry is the best tank because being able to CC them is the best. *rolls eyes* like, just cause this is the arguement everyone uses for calling Nunu a tank doesn't mean they're right. saying Kat's ult is a taunt is like saying that Teemo has a passive global taunt and thus is the best tank, which, while funny, is just stupid.
1. Rylai's doesn't care about damage type. Reckless Swing (true) and Heartseeker Strike (physical) both proc Rylai's while Poison Shot (magic) doesn't. It cares about being an active ability only. the only exception I know of is Vorpal Spikes (for no apparent reason).
2. Monkey King has already been labeled as a DPS who's Q reduces armor. Don't build Rylai's on DPS champions (or most champions for that matter).
3. He doesn't sound like a tank at all, I'm really done with this argument. You're entitled to your opinion, but that doesn't mean that you're not just wrong,
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Sonic The Hedgedawg
Smash Hero
Kat's ult is quite nunu-esque. The teemo thing is stupid though.
No he certainly doesn't He sounds like a melee AD champion. He's got survivability, escapes and tricks because, being melee, he needs them to give you a reason to pick him instead of a ranged DPS.3. He doesn't sound like a tank at all, I'm really done with this argument. You're entitled to your opinion, but that doesn't mean that you're not just wrong,
Maybe he's going to be a tanky DPS like Irelia or Xin Zhao, but I'll be REALLY surprised if his main job on the team is anything besides damage.
sure, and I'm saying that nunu's ult is not a good tanking ult. it's not totally useless to draw CC, but as far as "tank" ults go, it's WAY WAY WAY down the list in terms of usefulness. Honestly, I cannot in good consciousness call Nunu a tank (or any role other than jungler for that matter).
Sonic The Hedgedawg
Smash Hero
I suppose, but if you're not offering tonnes of CC what other option do you have for a "tank" ult?
you can CC everyone, make everyone scatter or turn yourself into the center of attention.
I mean not everyone can have an amumu or a morgana ultimate.
speaking of ill fitting ultimates though . . . . Urgot's is awful on his champion.
Well, like, you can still be a tank without an ult that feels totally tanky. I'm just saying that Monkey King's ult sounds really good for initiating and CCing people, so it feels vaguely tanky regardless of the rest of the kit (sorta like how Malphite's ult would still feel tanky regardless of who you put it on). Kat's doesn't have that same feeling IMO. Anyway, I'm done, feel like we're running around in circles with this discussion.
Juno McGrath
Smash Hero
You should stop raging, because it is indeed....Just a game
Solo queue and pay the price my good man.
Solo queue and pay the price my good man.
Jazriel
Smash Ace
Peanutbutter is delicious. Eat it even if you have allergies.
Same logic.
I can spout nonsense too!
Juno McGrath
Smash Hero
Im just saying, Solo q is like playing russian roulette with a gun that has 4 bullets in it (out of six)
also the bullets are on fire. some how.
edit; at least at abels level.
also the bullets are on fire. some how.
edit; at least at abels level.
john!
Smash Hero
what buff?
i've been playing nid a lot lately, apparently i'm good with her lol
source?
Unreliable.
BunBun
Smash Master
I will probably spam your wall with ponies.
just go back to playing ranged ad in a solo lane and youll be fine vs melee. corki at least goes even with most melee hampions, and probably can beat them if corki has exhaust too. trist will do fine v udyr in a solo lane.
vayne and ashe arent meant for a solo lane imo, but corki is much better in a solo lane i think, he doesnt really need a babysit.
vayne and ashe arent meant for a solo lane imo, but corki is much better in a solo lane i think, he doesnt really need a babysit.
Jazriel
Smash Ace
Except that it's not the same logic. But stupid people are everywhere. You should've seen the people I just played with!
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Gaining movespeed on red buff as opposed to a slow is gonna make split pushing easier with her.
Movespeed buff would just be a pretty big buff to ranged DPS. Make it harder to close the gaps while they still deeps you.
DarkDragoon
Smash Champion
As Akali, this excites me as well.
:[ Although I haven't played her in a while...
GUESS ITS AN AKALI NIGHT.
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:[ Although I haven't played her in a while...
GUESS ITS AN AKALI NIGHT.
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Turn off away and lets go mofo
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A Pimp Named Slickback
Smash Lord
Phreak called me an hour ago and told me it's tomorrow.
