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And that's EXACTLY why I hold those people in such low regard. I know what it's like having to wait until you're an adult to be happy. Having a shameful childhood... I can't draw any certain conclusions, but I won't be surprised if one day, my childhood really comes back to haunt me one day.
She's not forcing me to be a preacher. I'm not a preacher in VBS, I'm just a volunteer lol.
"Good people will do good things, and bad people will do bad things. But for good people to do bad things -- that takes religion." - Steven Weinberg
I've just had too much of a stressful day to get riled up on the subject. I'd probably say a lot of things I'd regret later. 
She's not forcing me to be a preacher. I'm not a preacher in VBS, I'm just a volunteer lol.
Although thats almost as bad, because I feel uncomforatble volunteering for a religious activity.
And she's not a bad person at all. My mom might be a extremely religious person, but she's a good person too.
Oh, and she thinks that I would be happy if I was "faithful to God", and thinks I am faithful to God. THat's why she made me volunteer, because she thought I would like it. If I expressed my objections, she might find out I'm an atheist
Well, at least I think my mom has good intentions.
tl;dr: I'm not a preacher in VBS, just a volunteer, but that's almost as bad. Also, despite the fact she made me volunteer, I think she still has good intentions, as she thinks I am "faithful to God" and she thinks faith brings happiness.
lolwut?@mountain_tiger: I'll get to the babies being Atheists thing later, possibly. I'm not sure if I want to yet though, because it will involve a giant rant about an Atheist's 'definition' of Atheism where I basically make myself seem as though I hate Atheists; despite the fact that their definition just simply aggravates me.
Not all of us are like that. He just used propoganda to influence your ideas of the Catholics, when the statements he made are relatively wrong and could honestly apply to ANY religion around the world, even the lack thereof (a.k.a, atheism)
I find this post funny, being that I (the one who made the post you're referring to) am Catholic.
Okay? You could've been a genetically-enhanced baboon that spoons freshly peeled potatoes into the machines at the Lays Chips factory, I still would've said what I said.
Oh, I understand that, I was just pointing out something that I believed to be somewhat humorous, being that I was apparently spreading propaganda about my own religion.Okay? You could've been a genetically-enhanced baboon that spoons freshly peeled potatoes into the machines at the Lays Chips factory, I still would've said what I said.
Everything is propaganda that is non-fiction, every body of text is trying to sell a point. xDOh, I understand that, I was just pointing out something that I believed to be somewhat humorous, being that I was apparently spreading propaganda about my own religion.
That is ridiculous. Utterly ridiculous, MK.
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Understandable, that certainly is a practice that would be less than tolerable to the average American. However, I just wanted to add in the fact that it doesn't apply solely to Catholics.
By that I mean that my mom loves me. I think thats why shes making me do these things. She thinks that doing that church volunteering crap will make me happy because she thinks I'm a christian. And she wants me to be christian because she doesn't want to think that I'll go to hell (there is no hell, but anyways), and she thinks I'll go to hell if I'm not christian.
Please, don't say for a fact that there is no hell. I'm not saying that there definitely is, nor am I saying you'll go to it just because you're atheist, but you can't outright say it as a fact.
When you said "feel the heat", I thought you were talking about Hell itself. Anyways, for all I can confirm, Satan could be having a bad romantic relationship with Saddam Hussein. That's how unsure I am about what Hell would be like if it really does exist.
Lol, by heat, I meant people who would be upset with me for it.
In the worst case scenario, every sinner could go to a different area of Hell based on the condemned soul's own ideas of ultimate eternal suffering.Lol, by heat, I meant people who would be upset with me for it.
Anyway, I get what you mean. Catholics describe hell as eternal suffering, but after that, it doesn't really delve into specifics...
I'm a bad Catholic, so if there are any others here, you can feel free to correct me.
We don't know that. There's no proof proving there is or isn't a hell. By definition, Hell isn't a lake of fire. Its more a absence of God, which somehow causes great suffering.
Well, right now, I can see that good person thing is a ruse. People who think like that are scum, imo. You don't go to hell if you're not a christian. All you do is just commit the 7 deadly sins over and over, and that could place you a ticket in hell. Seriously, if your morals are straight and true, and God does exist, your most likely just going to spend a few hundred years in Purgatory, IIRC.
Excuse me. That shall be kept to yourself. Saying there is no Hell is saying there is no God. I m not going into religion, because, of course, you say they don't exist.
Babies aren't atheists, babies are theological noncognitivists...
Take molecules as an example. Babies don't know those are there, but that doesn't mean they don't exist.
That's basically what I said. Only I didn't give it a label for what babies would be and other such things. But supposedly, there's a broad definition for Atheism that basically says it's the absence of belief in dieties. Which is why I was going to rant. Atheism be gettin' all up in mah Agnosticismz, an' I don' lyke it.
i just realized thats like Christianity saying **** you to every other religion
How can you even say something like that? That's not cool....getting flamed for an opinion. >___>
Excuse me, but I believe the fact he said "There is no Hell", as part of his beliefs, is nowhere close to saying that religion is stupid, not does the fact he is an atheist mean he doesn't respect religion. So keep your inflammatory feelings to yourself.
Yes, all 1 of them.
internet sarcasm fail...
10 Quote Minimum.man, I Feel Pretty Lucky That Both My Parents Didn't Care If I Went To Church And Whatnot.
I Went To Church Through A Good Amount Of My Life As A Teenager Not Because I Was Forced By My Parents, But Because It Felt Like It Would Be A Place For Me To Belong To. And Even Though My Mom Is Atheist And My Dad Is Jewish, They Didn't Mind It At All. In Fact, They Probably Liked It That I Was Going To Church And Hanging Out With Nice Friends There Instead Of Getting Into Trouble. Which Is Good.
I've Read A Good Deal Of The Bible, And The More I've Read It, The More I Begin To Doubt Christianity As A Religion, Instead Of Accepting It More. One Of The Problems I've Had With Christianity Is That A Good Deal Of Its Followers (at Least In My Experience) Believe It Is A Perfect Religion And Superior To Every Other Religion.
It's not "Which is the supperior belief?" It's which is right? Look at Buddhism. It demands that in order to go to Nirvana, you must be Perfectly content. It's against all human reasoning to be perfectly content. You'll always want something afterwords. Another thing. Look at the countries that are built on other religious beliefs. Myanmar ain't such a good place to live in. I'm also sure you'd absolutely hate it if you were a female living in a strict Islamic regime. But look at America. Founded on Christian-Judeo principles, it's THE best place to live in. consider it.
For Example, Why Is Magic And Sorcery Considered Evil And Demonic, Yet It's Perfectly Fine For Jesus To Heal Sick Men And Restore Sight To The Blind? Why Does Christianity Tout Itself For Being Able To Forgive Yourself For The Sins You've Done, But If You Commit Blasphemy Against God It Is Considered An Unforgivable Sin? Basically, Read The Entire Book Of Leviticus. I've Personally Met People At Church Who Believe The Harry Potter Series Is Evil And Demonic Because Of Its Fantasy-like Nature, But They're Perfectly Fine With The Chronicles Of Narnia. That Probably Has To Do With C. S. Lewis Being A Christian Though :/ To Me, I See A Lot Of Hypocrisy And Double Standards In Christianity That Makes The Religion Far From Perfect. I Wish Christians Would Accept That Their Religion Is Not Perfect.
Sorcery and Witchcraft had its roots in Satanic worship. well in a sense, witches called on the power of satan to perform what they wanted to do, which is why Saul had them removed. Now Jesus, I Reccomend Reading More Of The 4 Gospels If You Want To Understand Jesus's Works. Jesus Was God, Therefore Had The Authority Over Demons And Possessed The Power To Do Things Such As Heal The Lame And Blind. He was doing the works of God, not satan. Here's A Verse: 22so He Replied To The Messengers, "go Back And Report To John What You Have Seen And Heard: The Blind Receive Sight, The Lame Walk, Those Who Have Leprosy[a] Are Cured, The Deaf Hear, The Dead Are Raised, And The Good News Is Preached To The Poor. Luke 7:22- Is What Jesus Responded To John The Baptist's Desciples When They Asked For John If Jesus Was Actually The Messiah. Now, Specifically, Blasphemy Against The Holy Spirit (such As Saying: The Holy Spirit Caused Me To Do This, It Must Be From Hell) Is The Only Unforgiveable Sin Listed In The Bible. You Can See It In The Pharisees Spirits Reading About Them In The Bible, They Thought Jesus Came From Hell!
Plus, I Believe That Everything Happens For A Reason. There Is Some Logical Reasoning For Why An Event Occurs. This Is Where We Get Into The Problem Of Creationism Vs. Evolutionism. There Is Scientific Evidence That Supports The Theory Of Evolution, From Fossils To Plate Tectonics To Magnetic Pole Shifts To Analyzing Old Dna And All That Stuff. Hell, We See Evolution Every Day. Why Else Are Diseases Able To Mutate And Become Resistant To Antibiotics And Other Drugs? It's Because Variation Exists In Species Because Of Meiosis, Which Creates The Small Chance That A Favorable (or Unfavorable) Mutation Will Result To Benefit The Species.
there's A Thing Called Microevolution That Both Christians And Aetheists Alike Accept As Scientific Fact, It's Macroevolution That Starts The Fierce Debate.
This Is Why I Love Science. You Use Logic, Reasoning, And Testing To Hypothesize Results And Figure Out "why Is This Happening?" I Cannot Imagine Where Humans As A Species Would Be If It Weren't For Science. And Not Surprisingly, Science Has Conflicted Constantly With Religion Over History.
true Science Doesn't Contradict The Bible. In fact, it and the Bible live side by side, unlike this quote i keep on hearing.
Hopefully, Your Parents Will Understand Over Time That You Do Not Want To Be A Christian. Don't Be Bullied Into Converting To Christianity If You Don't Want To. Remember, It's Fine If You Question Stuff. I've Done It For A While Now And I Still Do It To This Day. Question Authority. Nothing Is Perfect. The Best You Can Do Is Live A Life You Know You Will Enjoy No Matter What You Do
At the risk of an infraction, it's not worth calling you out on idiocy.
Yeah, I agree. It is unfair. After reading the entire Bible, I concluded it was stupid how one had to go through infinite sffering for finite sins.
