Gigabots Manfia - GAME [JUMB]OVER. Who got the Gigatron?

[#HBC | ZoZo]

Except F&L

Still liked your thought process that game.

 

[th3kuzinator]

 

[DtJ Glyphmoney]

http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=14234805&postcount=1935

That didn't show up til the end of the day, and actually is something I'd do as town though :/

 

[Pink Lemonade]

Ran. Never do that again. You did the same thing in Newbie 12. There's always something you can do. Even if you know your lynch is inevitable. Argue it down with all you can even if you know you're doomed. This forces the pushers of your wagon (probably scum if they don't see reason after you give it your all) to dig themselves into a hole on your town flip. Giving up passively gives town nowhere to look once you die and it lets scum get away with an easy ML. If you give em' hell before going down, town will be a lot better off.

And that goes for everyone. Stop giving up in situations that don't warrant it. If you know you're completely ****ed, okay, but if there is even a speck of pro-factional motivation for you to keep playing: keep playing.

Thanks man... I will try to keep that reasoning to heart. It's just all that damn confusion was morally ... I don't know the word. It got me down. I also gave trust to Xonar, while he was the indy. I didn't know that. I don't think there could have been a way for me to deduce that... I don't know if you know, but I don't know how to 'indy scumhunt'. So... If there was, I was oblivious to it.

You are right though. I will try really hard not to self vote ever... I just saw xonar's 'plan' and went with it... ugh.

 

[DtJ Glyphmoney]

It was actually kind of funny from my PoV thinking Xonar was super-town and him thinking the same about my slot. It made this weird scum alliance to crush town.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

No MVP should be given for this game.

When town assists with poor play and absolutely mindboggling play I can't see it as MVP for town

D1 Vegito pulls a ******** QL.

D2 Bardull gets lynched over people hating him over anayizing Bush's play.

D3 Gorf gets lynched because people think a vague result from a flavor cop is damning, hell Gorf self votes here.

D4 we got lynched before I could even post, people vote us in potential mylo before this, seriously wtf that case they posted was bull.

D5 Scum throws themself away.

D6 ran gives himself to scum.

D7 eh.

D8 lazy play and no attempt to reread.

Can't justify it. There is salt here but a lot of it is from how events happened where i couldn't stop it because people did it hastily.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

That didn't show up til the end of the day, and actually is something I'd do as town though :/

If you presented yourself like that as town i would lynch you all the same.
Also about Gorf i disagree, the lazy way he approached the game he kept on our slot so bad and we made a case on it.

 

[JTB]

That's dumb

D1 QL was set in motion by scum

D2 ML was set in motion by scum

D3 is towns fault, can't argue that

D4 ML was set in motion by scum by painting your claim as a warlock

D5 bus gives jupiter more town cred

D6 is towns fault

D7 and D8 is all jupiters play

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Scum didn't force or influence people to vote themselves, hammer people before a claim, nor force a claim situation where someone claims outside info they got.

 

[Jdietz43]

Well everyone can be mad at me then. I tried my best off the info I garnished and his scummy play, and that picture pointed to Gorf scum.

You're blacklisted from all future games I run.

It was an honest mistake and we've already been reprimanded about it, but you can do whatever you like I suppose.

 

[DtJ Glyphmoney]

No MVP should be given for this game.

Hey there! I see you're overflowing with massive amounts of buttsalt.

When town assists with poor play and absolutely mindboggling play I can't see it as MVP for town

Me neither! But hey, I was scum and the only other person in this game who did stuff was Ryker, and he was scum too.

D1 Vegito pulls a ******** QL.

After Ryker got him pushed to L-1!

D2 Bardull gets lynched over people hating him over anayizing Bush's play.

So what! Ryker didn't get lynched! And even if he had, someone would have blown up with him! Ryker WANTED to die! It was his GAMEPLAN.

D3 Gorf gets lynched because people think a vague result from a flavor cop is damning, hell Gorf self votes here.

Up until Kuz realized Gorf was town and started taking pressure off of him. You yourself had unvoted, and it was ME AND EE who put the pressure right back on and got him lynched. Oh btw, we're scum.

D4 we got lynched before I could even post, people vote us in potential mylo before this, seriously wtf that case they posted was bull.

Huh that's funny, because it looks like it was pursuasive enough to get you lynched! By the majority of town! That is how lynching works in mafia!

D5 Scum throws themself away.

This one is my FAVORITE. We've outlined SEVERAL times that JTB was not going to be the lynch. Flat out, not gunna happen. UNTIL, EE steps in and MAKES it happen. Which puts our slot in an absolutely golden position for the rest of the game.

D6 ran gives himself to scum.

More like 'Xonar/Biceps make a plan that seems so sound to Ran that he can't find a way out of it'. Which was the idea. To make Ran dead.

You can't hold a plan working against us.

D7 eh.

Close second for favorite! You know that day, where we peg the indy in Lylo? And build a massive case against him? And then get him lynched? Lets sum that up with 'eh'. Good call!

D8 lazy play and no attempt to reread.

...you do realize me and EE re-read the game during N7. To build a case on John. So we could shoot him. And then have this case built against him. Because then our 'oh DARN! John died! Omg never saw that coming' defense was ACTUALLY plausible.

Can't justify it. There is salt here but a lot of it is from how events happened where i couldn't stop it because people did it hastily.

http://www.preparationh.com/

 

[DtJ Glyphmoney]

Scum didn't force or influence people to vote themselves, hammer people before a claim, nor force a claim situation where someone claims outside info they got.

Can't take credit for the quickhamer, but we most certainly could force someone to vote themselves. And did. And explain that last sentence, it makes no sense.

Yeah I'm handling this like I would a mafia argument. And if this were ingame, I'd already have enough to push your lynch through. Again.

 

[Gova]

I don't know if WL has made his decision final but I don't think an MVP should be given out when the integrity of the game was compromised.

 

[DtJ Glyphmoney]

When was that Gova, and what bearing did it have on me and EE's play. Or Ryker's, if you really want to entertain the only viable choices.

EDIT: Ryker/Raziek's. I know you did stuff too Raz

 

[John2k4]

Oh and what did they eyepatch do?

During the night, you were abducted. You may no longer post in the game!

But before you were abducted, you received a Laser Eyepatch! If you return to the game, you could put it on to cover the laser on your eye! ...if you had one, anyway.

Ten Quotes .

 

[Pink Lemonade]

We *me zen* take responsibility for the quick lynch. Sorry town.

Also with the self vote. Sorry again.

I also didn't like RR/Joey being lynched without any further discussion. That was sooo anti-town.

Like I had stuff to say and ppl just hammer. ****.

 

[DtJ Glyphmoney]

And yet, there is it. And here me and EE are, in the victory circle.

Hindsight's 20/20 Ran

 

[Pink Lemonade]

Care to elaborate?

 

[DtJ Glyphmoney]

I'm saying it doesn't matter if you think it was anti-town. Since we won the game. And everyone always comes in during endgame saying 'oh man I TOTALLY had that guy as scum DAMN'.

 

[Gova]

I totally had you as scum Glyph, hot damn.

 

[Pink Lemonade]

It does matter. Later on in the future town's townies can see that that is anti-town behavior and it should be avoided. I know it has nothing to do with the game now. You won. I'm not salty.

Also I was just stating my annoyance at not being able to express my thoughts after saying I had thoughts to say, so don't hammer yet. get me?

 

[John2k4]

MvP: JM

I posted this earlier in Skype, but in short I'm quite mad that I was the Kill before I could even post; I had confidence and had read the game almost all the way through again, and was dead set on either JM Scum or Orb Scum. Shortly after sending my "Popgun" NA targetted at Orby, I figured out the real scum.

 

[DtJ Glyphmoney]

It does matter. Later on in the future town's townies can see that that is anti-town behavior and it should be avoided. I know it has nothing to do with the game now. You won. I'm not salty.

Ran is just concerned about the future of the children of DGames

Gova is the only one I believe had me as scum

 

[Pink Lemonade]

I am. : 3 Gotta make these townies stronger.

 

[Gova]

I knew it the moment I read my Role PM. You wrote it, and only scum would have access to that kind of information.

 

[DtJ Glyphmoney]

I actually had a lot of fun writing those role PMs. Laundry was supposed to actually link to a guitar solo for that one part, but the idea was still solid the way he did it hahahah

 

[John2k4]

[4/6/2012 4:05:48 PM] John P: Alright
[4/6/2012 4:06:03 PM] John P: So who's the last scum? The Muscles?
[4/6/2012 4:18:34 PM] Alex T: indeed

 

[Pink Lemonade]

Also on Bardull. I don't know why... I feel really bad for not listening to him.

He was pretty townie for me... but for some reason I just listened to Ryker. Ugh. Next time I have to try and not be like that.

So again, my bad.

 

[Gova]

I hope Laundry decides to post everyone's answers to the questions.

 

[John2k4]

But before we can begin, I need to get to know ya a bit. Nothin' personal and all, just need a few basic...questions. Dig?

1. Name (Aliases and such, don't use your online tag, that's unoriginal)
2. What's your favorite song?
3. Do you like furries?
4. Please say yes?
5. Do you like turtles?

And...don't worry 'bout bein' honest. I'm just followin' regulations and ****, the boss man's a stickler for the rules.

1. My name is John. I have gone by Pete and ????? before.
2. I don't really have a favorite song.
3. Most of them are nice people.
4. Yes?
5. Yes.

 

[Gova]

Welp, I guess I'll post mine then.

 

[#HBC | Acrostic]

I can see the whole integrity argument, that cheating ruins the pacing and events of the game i.e. Monster & Jdietz involved unneeded elements outside of the game that influenced what happened in the game therefore making the game "tarnished." However realistically speaking, Meow-Jdietz communication, both town aligned factions, had the potential to put Jupiter at a disadvantage as scum.

 

[Gova]

But before we can begin, I need to get to know ya a bit. Nothin' personal and all, just need a few basic...questions. Dig?

1. Name (Aliases and such, don't use your online tag, that's unoriginal)
2. What's your favorite song?
3. Do you like furries?
4. Please say yes?
5. Do you like turtles?

And...don't worry 'bout bein' honest. I'm just followin' regulations and ****, the boss man's a stickler for the rules.

1. Gova, Takicodos, Pado, Mechanick27, ***** ***...
2. Currently
-http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=006441
-http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1X243bq-ho&feature=sh_e_se&list=SL
-http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIlJgB6pHHU
-http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsQEPPQa2Xo
-http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k71VFzUAHDo&feature=related
-http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDK75Pq5tXs


Always
-http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbp52Z9jRg0

3. Depends. That Red Ruy guy is pretty cool but then there's furries like Gheb.
4. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eyqUj3PGHv4 - Yeah, I bet you're going to enjoy this.
5.

You were scum if you answered No to liking turtles apparently.

 

[Pink Lemonade]

Yet they put Gord at a disadvantage instead, a fellow townsmen!

I deff think JD/Meow should try a newbie before playing other games first.

Also, I won't really be allowing newbies in any of my future games. Not even in a simple mafia game. I don't want my setups to be ruined by things like this. It just doesn't go well.

SF scum lost because of a newb being over... newb town on purpose lol.

Sorry bro. You got the potential. But I'd rather see you play a newb first and see how you do.

 

[John2k4]

3. Depends. That Red Ruy guy is pretty cool but then there's furries like Gheb.

Lost.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Glyph that's dumb.

Town doesn't QL without a claim, I'd never do that and almost everyone in this roaster would never do it. Also putting someone at L-1 is bad, don't do it unless you absolutely need the pressure and are fine with the consequences. Vegito literally said, "We don't need PR's we got our votes!" *Facepalm* Scum didn't influence him QLing over Inferno not commenting back to him on a post.

Town giving themselves up is not scum outplaying them, that's town not giving a damn about the game. Scum didn't force people to be lazy or o something that the cons far outweigh the pros. That's borderline playing against their wincon by voting themselves/hammering. Gorf knew Banana would die if he died and did it anyways.

Town shouldn't lynch without discussion on if they were wrong, not even talking strictly of my lynch this happened multiple times during the game where a lynch went through without people thinking about the consequences if they were wrong.

Even thinking about the outside communication, you could argue it could have been used differently against scum, but it influenced the game for better or worse. And that should have never influenced it at all.

Vote: No MVP

I'm standing by this, this is one of the worst town performances I've seen on this site, this is not even the salt. This is pretty dang bad what town did.

~

Now as for Deitz, I think Raziek should tell the whole story on his convo with him so I can make sure I got the facts straight.

Because at the same time, I feel like doing a perma blacklist isn't the right call if I recall what Raziek did tell me.

 

[Inferno3044]

We *me zen* take responsibility for the quick lynch. Sorry town.

Also with the self vote. Sorry again.

I also didn't like RR/Joey being lynched without any further discussion. That was sooo anti-town.

Like I had stuff to say and ppl just hammer. ****.

I was SO salty about the QL. Like yeah I messed up early but I could've gotten out of it and hopefully moved people in the right direction. Probably not D1 because I would've went for either Jdeitz or Bardull. What made me the most mad was JDeitz not only lying about a flavor cop claim (which he somehow interpreted from Meow's picks. please explain this Jdeitz) to try and lynch Gorf but how he attempted to clear Meow. I raged so hard. With those 2 and Bardull around I was so mad that I really wondered how I got quick lynched.

 

[JTB]

RR says it isn't salt but it really is because he's pinning our victory solely on town playing bad and not what we did to cause town to make these mistakes.

Fact: Inferno wouldn't have been able to be quick lynched if Ryker/Raz didn't push him to L-1

Fact: Bardull wouldn't have been lynched if Ryker/Raz didn't push him to L-1

Fact: Gorf wouldn't have been able to self hammer if Biceps didn't push him to L-1 as pressure began to disappear

Stop blatently ignoring the hand we played in these so-called "town mishaps" because we didn't work for this victory just to have it considered "bad town play"

 

[Gova]

Gorf wouldn't have been lynched if Jdietz and MM weren't breaking the rules. lol

 

[Jdietz43]

Lol, no he still def. would have been. I think you guys are overestimating the amount and nature of chatter we actually had. We're talking "Who died last night" not "Here's everything I'm thinking and why"

I would have still followed the crumb to Gorf, and Jupiter still deserves MVP. The only thing that changed was how hesitant I would or wouldn't have been the next day to pursue Meow lynch, but Ryu was the play instead.