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Geno (♥♪!?): Return of the Starsend Savior

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valkiriforce

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Hey guys, I might be super duper doggone shoot mayun late, but happy 700 pages! I'm actually kind of hoping to do something special for Geno at some point now that I got some other video projects out of the way, but we'll see what happens.

Also, no sign of that Piranha Plant email code, and I don't feel like sitting on the phone. OH WELL.
 

OptimisticStrifer

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Do we have any reliable evidence on when the next direct is? I wanna see if I get my plant code or the direct announcement first.
 

MissingGlitch

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Do we have any reliable evidence on when the next direct is? I wanna see if I get my plant code or the direct announcement first.
Well there was this thing earlier where THQ uploaded and deleted a trailer for Darksiders for the Switch. There is a chance it was meant for a Direct...so soon hopefully?
 

Ovaltine

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Erdrick is still coming. Steve is still coming. None of that has changed.
Nothing at all personal since you seem like a nice guy, but I just can't trust in that much certainty, and I'll wait and see before being any bit decisive on Steve. While I am pretty sure we're getting Erdrick, I'm also not all in on him either. Hopefully you understand why I'm so skeptical of insiders right now.
 

MissingGlitch

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If Erdrick and Steve is what I have to look forward to, outright deconfirming two characters I really want. Yeah the fighter pass was a waste of money for me lmao I doubt the other two fighters would redeem it at all. Unless it's like Heavy Weapons Guy and Phoenix Wright.
 
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What's Xenother's record for predicting characters? How many hits and misses has he made for Ultimate?
 

Ovaltine

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What's Xenother's record for predicting characters? How many hits and misses has he made for Ultimate?
If I'm not mistaken, he's not made any hits or misses. None of his claims have been substantiated. Polar seems to trust him and his source in terms of being legitimate, though. Whether or not he and his sources are right is yet to be seen.
 
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If I'm not mistaken, he's not made any hits or misses. None of his claims have been substantiated. Polar seems to trust him and his source in terms of being legitimate, though. Whether or not he and his sources are right is yet to be seen.
Hmm. Xenother's timeline is the sort-of-good ending. I get Dragon Quest and Microsoft putting themselves into Smash is better than Banjo being impossible as always.

However, my mom taught me at a young age not to trust strangers on the internet, so Xenother's word is taken with a grain of salt until otherwise (lol). Still no Vergeben either so that's all I can say on the matter then.
 
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Sovereign Trinity

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That was definitely the highlight of Smash 4 for me.

I was so sad they cut Lucas from the base game. He was my second favorite character in Brawl. I was overjoyed when they added him back as DLC. I like Roy too, and I was happy they added him back as DLC
I probably should've continued writing for them. While I do believe it's not worth $4 for a semi-clone, I do think their return was very hype. Roy was a Melee classic and Lucas was a Brawl classic. I was happy to see them both return. I think we can all agree that Corrin was the worst of the seven.
 

Ovaltine

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Hmm. Xenother's timeline is the sort-of-good ending. I get Dragon Quest and Microsoft putting themselves into Smash is better than Banjo being impossible as always.

However, my mom taught me at a young age not to trust strangers on the internet, so Xenother's word is taken with a grain of salt until otherwise (lol). Still no Vergeben either so that's all I can say on the matter then.
It's at least a step in the right direction. While it does definitely hurt Geno, it does make a future Banjo inclusion, this Smash or not, seem that much more likely, which is nice. That being said, if that timeline does happen, all I can say is that I'm glad I didn't preemptively purchase the Fighter's Pass.
 

xenother

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May I ask why you're certain of them? Or, if you're unable to say, I understand.
A source who has given me correct info on multiple occasions about Smash Ultimate and other games (although I rarely ask for non-Smash info) told me that Erdrick would be joining the roster. I was the first (at least among the circles I'm in) that was able to say with certainty that Erdrick would be getting in. After I received this info, multiple other people (who I trust to have correct information) also began to receive the same info that the Square Enix rep would be Erdrick. Then the datamined info was the cherry on top.

With Steve, I and others have heard from multiple people (including my main source) that Steve would also be joining the roster. It is almost common knowledge at this point that Nintendo had conversations with Microsoft about bringing a Microsoft owned character to Smash, and it is to my knowledge that Nintendo came in wanting a big, recognizable character (which ended up being Steve). As if this wasn't enough, I have also been told by multiple sources that Steve was in a testers build of the game back in August. I was told that he was far from being in playable state. I, like many of you wonder why Steve was left out of the base game/revealed after Joker if he was being worked on so early. The reasoning in the Doom/Ninja Gaiden leak could be a possible explanation, but I am not able to vouch for that leak with any confidence and am trying to verify or find conflicts with that 'leak'.

Briefly that's what I can share with you as to why I'm confident of these two characters. I hope to have some new info for you soon.
 

OptimisticStrifer

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It's at least a step in the right direction. While it does definitely hurt Geno, it does make a future Banjo inclusion, this Smash or not, seem that much more likely, which is nice. That being said, if that timeline does happen, all I can say is that I'm glad I didn't preemptively purchase the Fighter's Pass.
????? How does Steve = good things for Banjo?
 
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????? How does Steve = good things for Banjo?
We don't get Banjo now, but we can potentially get him later. It's not ideal, but it at least shows Microsoft is willing to incorporate itself into Smash Bros. The worst alternative is Microsoft still keeps saying, "**** you Smash Bros."
 

OptimisticStrifer

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We don't get Banjo now, but we can potentially get him later. It's not ideal, but it at least shows Microsoft is willing to incorporate itself into Smash Bros. The worst alternative is Microsoft still keeps saying, "**** you Smash Bros."
And then we'd get Master Cheif/ Sea of Thieves Pirate! :4pacman:

Their first choice of DLC character is indicative if they will actually listen to the Smash Fanbase or not.
 
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And then we'd get Master Cheif/ Sea of Thieves Pirate! :4pacman:

Their first choice of DLC character is indicative if they will actually listen to the Smash Fanbase or not.
It does seem weird. I'm not sure how well Banjo did on the Smash poll to warrant not being selected if Steve is the case. Business wise, Minecraft makes more sense if Banjo-Kazooie is just going to stay buried forever. Plus realistically, Minecraft is more recognizable. Hard call, really.
 

OptimisticStrifer

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Honestly I think Steve will never get in; purely due to technical issues. The animation would be VERY tricky to do; and if Ridley discouraged Sakurai for 4 games due to a relatively easy fix, I'm not sure how willingly he'd jump headfirst into Steve.
 
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MissingGlitch

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Honestly I think Steve will never get in; purely due to technical issues. The animation would be VERY tricky to do; and if Ridley discouraged Sakurai for 4 games due to a relatively easy fix, I'm not sure how willingly he'd jump headfirst into Steve.
Ridley didn't have Minecraft money to persuade both him and Nintendo to do it ASAP.
 

Ovaltine

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A source who has given me correct info on multiple occasions about Smash Ultimate and other games (although I rarely ask for non-Smash info) told me that Erdrick would be joining the roster. I was the first (at least among the circles I'm in) that was able to say with certainty that Erdrick would be getting in. After I received this info, multiple other people (who I trust to have correct information) also began to receive the same info that the Square Enix rep would be Erdrick. Then the datamined info was the cherry on top.

With Steve, I and others have heard from multiple people (including my main source) that Steve would also be joining the roster. It is almost common knowledge at this point that Nintendo had conversations with Microsoft about bringing a Microsoft owned character to Smash, and it is to my knowledge that Nintendo came in wanting a big, recognizable character (which ended up being Steve). As if this wasn't enough, I have also been told by multiple sources that Steve was in a testers build of the game back in August. I was told that he was far from being in playable state. I, like many of you wonder why Steve was left out of the base game/revealed after Joker if he was being worked on so early. The reasoning in the Doom/Ninja Gaiden leak could be a possible explanation, but I am not able to vouch for that leak with any confidence and am trying to verify or find conflicts with that 'leak'.

Briefly that's what I can share with you as to why I'm confident of these two characters. I hope to have some new info for you soon.
It's all rather curious, and I have to wonder about why this info is coming out and what all is even being planned. It also makes me hope we get more DLC beyond Fighter's Pass, because it sounds like the pass is going to be rather... lackluster beyond Joker. If this is true, I'm happy for these characters' fans, at least.

Thanks for sharing this info.
 

OptimisticStrifer

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Ridley didn't have Minecraft money to persuade both him and Nintendo to do it ASAP.
At the end of the day; Smash is a MASCOT fighter.... which is personality based. If Sakurai had Banjo and Steve in front of him as options; I'm not sure he would pick Steve. I guess it all depends on if both made it to Sakurai's list.
 

T2by4

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It's all rather curious, and I have to wonder about why this info is coming out and what all is even being planned. It also makes me hope we get more DLC beyond Fighter's Pass, because it sounds like the pass is going to be rather... lackluster beyond Joker. If this is true, I'm happy for these characters' fans, at least.

Thanks for sharing this info.
Heck, if that 5chan leaker was right and we get doomguy, that easily makes the dlc pack for me. I was going to support doomguy right after Geno.
 
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OptimisticStrifer

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You guy's really need to stop falling for the Ryu/Doom Guy leak. Even if we get Erdrick; he's most likely not going to be in the state that was described in said leak.
 
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Heck, if that 5chan leaker was right and we get doomguy, that easily makes the dlc pack for me. I was going to support doomguy right after Geno.
Two out of five of the DLC newcomers knocking me out is better than what Smash 4's DLC did for me. I always thought they deserved to be in, but nothing Smash 4's DLC did compared to my reaction for Joker.
 

MissingGlitch

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I'm expecting another Smash 4 DLC for me honestly. Not liking any of the character choices and only having a "oh ok" reaction to one of them.
 

ZelDan

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I'm expecting another Smash 4 DLC for me honestly. Not liking any of the character choices and only having a "oh ok" reaction to one of them.
I'd love it if the fighter's pass was Smash 4 DLC tier. Seeing Mewtwo, Lucas, and Roy return was great. Not much of a Street Fighter fan, but I thought it was cool that the father of fighting games was showing up in Smash. As I said before, Cloud and Bayonetta were amazing to me. Worst inclusion was definitely Corrin, but even then I wasn't mad at them being in the game (I did kind of internally groan though since I knew the internet was going to be salty over them and that that was going to make forums fun to go through >_>)
 

MissingGlitch

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I'd love it if the fighter's pass was Smash 4 DLC tier. Seeing Mewtwo, Lucas, and Roy return was great. Not much of a Street Fighter fan, but I thought it was cool that the father of fighting games was showing up in Smash. As I said before, Cloud and Bayonetta were amazing to me. Worst inclusion was definitely Corrin, but even then I wasn't mad at them being in the game (I did kind of internally groan though since I knew the internet was going to be salty over them and that that was going to make forums fun to go through >_>)
I just didn't personally care for any of the characters. Thankfully Smash 4 base had several newcomers I liked. But not even Smash ultimate did that for me. So I've been more attached to the DLC being people I like much more emotionally.
 

Sovereign Trinity

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Rest in peace, Wii Shop Channel. :(
December 10, 2006 - January 30, 2019




Thank you, Wii Shop Channel, for all the great games and memories you brought us with Virtual Console! Gosh, I'm going to miss it so much.
Hey, I think we all know what the best Virtual Console game was. ;)


 

Hot_N_Tasty

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If it's a deconfirm for banjo and Geno I wouldn't exactly be surprised, but I really hope this info that is absolutely everywhere about those two is wrong. Nothing against the fans of Steve or Eddy, I just really want Banjo/Geno; in the end, I'm happy that someone will be getting their most wanted.

E: Rip Wii Shop Channel
 
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Welp, At least I'm glad I didn't buy the Fighters Pass yet cause if what Xenother said then it looks like the Fighters Pass is not gonna be for me at all. the last thing I hope for would be a Season 2 or Misc DLC but knowing my luck that's not going to happen. Also RIP Wii Shop
 
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