Man, when you lack so much info and are desperate for news that, in light of the drought of Smash news, you distract yourselves by guessing each other's genders.
I'll stay out of this guessing because the topic is nothing but asking for a problem for me, but I will inform you all of something.
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Now I understand that this is technically drama, and I really HATE drama unless it's manufactured well on a silver screen, but I believe this NEEDS to be said for all of you here as we are the most likely audience to want to support him: Do not, and I repeat, DO NOT have anything to do with
papagenos
Leak Speculation channel unless you have an iron will to resist people who try to discredit your argument by warping it to make you sound like you are an unintelligent child and look to insult you just because they do not agree with your argument and cannot offer true counterpoint or discussion.
As I have posted SO MANY TIMES here in recent days, that chat is mostly infested with close-minded Erdrick believers who are 100% convinced that everything they have found proves his existence as 'Brave' and that he's already in development as we speak. As it's rude to mentioned names, I won't, but there are roughly four to six certain individuals in particular that do nothing but mock any points brought up against him or in favor of another rep, and if you try to back up your claims or refute theirs, they just belittle you.
Now you all know me, I get a little spicy from time to time, but mostly I'm pretty chill when it comes to being actually mean to people and I love to get hype and have a good time. However, something that irks me to no end is when someone tries to debate and can't, then decides to make it personal for no reason. Dealing with this day after day for almost a month, I finally starting getting snippy back with one or two of these individuals, and it ended with me getting banned from the Leak Speculation channel...but not because I was snippy, but because one of them was a mod at the time and didn't like my argument nor the fact that I wouldn't back down just because of how he treated me. This person was de-modded and after a little over a day, I returned.
I was doing my best to ignore them and I was doing fine, up until I offered counterpoints to the list of circumstantial evidence for Erdrick that a much more polite user brought up. After giving some of the reasons I think Erdrick could be leakbait, this same de-modded individual came into the chat and did this same routine: trying to make me sound like a dumb kid be twisting my words or posting a summary of my points in a mocking and demeaning manner. However, they completely got it wrong in it's entirety, so I corrected them and basically told them that if you are going to be like that at least get the opposing stance correct.
This debate went back and forth with this de-modded member and another joining in and basically heckling my stance, and I did my best to stay polite, but shortly after an incorrect statement about
PolarPanda
things went south: They said that Polar thinks Erdrick is 100%, however I had spoken with him a couple days prior and he said they were neutral about Erdrick at this time, so I informed them on it. They didn't believe me, so I copy/pasted just the discussion of what Polar thought about Erdrick's chances personally. They acted like I did something horrible, but since I shared nothing personal or leak-related, I failed to see the issue (though if that bothers you Sabi, I apologize, but we've been over this). This was when this de-modded member more than crossed the line...
The pasted a screenshot of their private DMs with Sabi into the chat, and they did it not to prove that Sabi had maybe changed his mind, but to imply that Sabi didn't enjoy talking to me on Discord. This person did this just to upset me personally because they were losing a debate because they can do nothing but insult and are unable to open their mind to other possibilities. Of course I fell for this, did get a smidge irritated with them because this was absolutely ridiculous, and at this point I was no longer polite with them. Just to keep in mind this person had previously in this argument said that 'this is sad' and 'Do you have so little self-esteem that online debates are the only way you feel worth anything' prior to dropping this screenshot. Things escalated, staff FINALLY intervened, and HOOO boy it gets even better.
I was almost the only one who got in trouble. YOU HEARD THAT RIGHT! I did nothing to start this but respond to him, and this member has been doing this for over a month now to me and other people, and yet he and his lackey tried to pin the whole thing on me and people started to believe them. I had to dig through the messages just to prove that I was mostly innocent, the whole thing was ridiculous. Needless to say, the 'let's all get along' BS was pushed and it lasted all of a couple days, since I'm back complaining about it.
Fun fact: the next day, Sabi responds to me messages, which were basically me being disappointed because I would rather have someone outright tell me they are tired of talking to me than just faking it and talking behind my E-Back. That screenshot that loser had? Turns out it was not only screenshot WITHOUT Sabi's knowledge or permission, but he also shared it without his knowledge or permission, AND it was only a fraction of the whole conversation: this guy PURPOSELY changed the context of a DM conversation so that he could upset someone because HE COULDN'T DEBATE WITH THEM! Needless to say, I DM'd him and **** all over him and then blocked him, that way I could talk int he leak speculation with a little more peace.
This leads to today. I had been mostly absent from the server because it really never changes much from 'Erdrick is in, just accept it' and at most the discussion goes to who is after Erdrick rather than who else could Brave be, and when you do argue about who else Brave could be, you risk what I've been dealing with for so long (really, it is SO bad that it mostly ends up as a place to joke around and meme when the rules specifically say not to). I had just finished the Dragon Ball FighterZ World Tour Finals for the 4 LCQs (btw, the Top 8 is tomorrow, as well as announcements for Season 2 DLC as well as a reveal for Project Z, which is a brand-new DBZ RPG. Go check it out tomorrow, it's at 11AM PST) and was just checking the convo in the chat before heading off to bed. Needless to say, it was roughly as stagnant as always, but I noticed that this one individual was treating someone else the same way as he does me, so I called him out on it to try to get a mod to do something about it...and of course, nothing was done.
This soon spiraled into members trying to tell me that I treat people the same way as him, which is untrue as I only treated people like him that way and only after I got sick of them, which took a long while. Things escalated, it got personal, but then it kinda died down and I was able to properly debate people...but I then was banned YET AGAIN from the Leak Speculation channel and at this point it's basically delayed punishment for trying to get a mod to do something about the actual toxic members in their server and then not backing off when this people sling s*** in my face.
Now, I don't want people to think I want to be unbanned and I'm whining about that. as I truly no longer care because that channel is a cesspool and it won't end until Erdrick gets confirmed or denied, and then it will just fire up again for another character later on and be just as bad. People in there do not know how to debate properly, and while I am no expert, I'm pretty sure insults have no place in a true debate.
Also, I don't want people to think I don't want you to join
papagenos
Discord Server because I love this dude and support him and there are other areas you can chat in about whatever. This is just a warning that if you go in there and you do not ignore or agree with these troublemakers, you WILL get punished for it, and this needs to be heard and adjustments need to be made. They are looking for new staff, but frankly unless they get rid of a good chunk of the losers just there for speculation and have nothing to do with Papa, it will stay like this.
This has been a Public Service Announcement from your local interwebz rando!
Sovereign Trinity had a good idea, and you should be "InGENOus!"
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