Geno (♥♪!?): Return of the Starsend Savior

[TreeBranch]

I went to look at that guys post history and found a thread speculating the brawl characters, and...

Spoiler: oof

loooooool (sorry Isaac fans)

 

[metallic shadow]

I'm going to assume it's another one-off and this post makes no sense.

Geno at least shows some personality even if he's mostly silent (from what I've read), and if people are bandwagoning it's probably because they like the character.

It's King Boo, obviously. The second biggest villain in the Mario series, who just had his first game remade this year and will get a new one next year. And who you somehow forgot to put in your signature despite having several less notable and less significant characters than him.

 

[TheCJBrine]

It's King Boo, obviously. The second biggest villain in the Mario series, who just had his first game remade this year and will get a new one next year. And who you somehow forgot to put in your signature despite having several less notable and less significant characters than him.

I like King Boo and would be happy with his inclusion in Smash, but each of the characters in my sig are entirely notable and significant to me as well so...

You're also kinda sounding like someone who's trying to force superiority...

 

[Xigger]

Geno at least shows some personality even if he's mostly silent (from what I've read)

Super Mario RPG isn't a very talkative game, for today's standards, but Geno has more dialogue than most, second only to Bowser. (and that's due to multiple monologuing scenes)

 

[The Anigriffin]

It's King Boo, obviously. The second biggest villain in the Mario series, who just had his first game remade this year and will get a new one next year. And who you somehow forgot to put in your signature despite having several less notable and less significant characters than him.

>My character is more likely than yours because I said so.
>My character is more significant than yours because I said so.

Are you using your older siblings abandoned account? I'm quite curious now.

 

[metallic shadow]

>My character is more likely than yours because I said so.
>My character is more significant than yours because I said so.

Are you using your older siblings abandoned account? I'm quite curious now.

He's not more significant "because I said so", he's more significant because he's the main antagonist of two (soon to be three, four if you count the Luigi's Mansion arcade game) games. This is a big deal for a Mario character as it puts him ahead of everyone save Bowser, making him the only recurring final boss besides the Koopa King. Plus he has several appearances in Mario Kart and Mario Party games, sometimes as a boss and sometimes as a playable character, more so than any of the other king characters (again, unless you count Bowser as the Koopa King).

 

[TheCJBrine]

He's not more significant "because I said so", he's more significant because he's the main antagonist of two (soon to be three, four if you count the Luigi's Mansion arcade game) games. This is a big deal for a Mario character as it puts him ahead of everyone save Bowser, making him the only recurring final boss besides the Koopa King. Plus he has several appearances in Mario Kart and Mario Party games, sometimes as a boss and sometimes as a playable character, more so than any of the other king characters (again, unless you count Bowser as the Koopa King).

Listen.

No one cares who's "more significant," that's not why people want their character in Smash.

If we were going by who's significant, my favorite duo the Ice Climbers would've been discarded long ago.

We each like characters for different reasons, characters whom we at least feel is "significant" in some way, at least to ourselves.

 

[childishgamgeno]

No, not Waluigi. And not Toad or Captain Toad either.

It’s Fawful y’all

 

[OptimisticStrifer]

Listen.

No one cares who's "more significant," that's not why people want their character in Smash.

If we were going by who's significant, my favorite duo the Ice Climbers would've been discarded long ago.

We each like characters whom we at least feel is "significant" in some way, at least to ourselves.

Lucas Gang Gang

 

[link2702]

Please don’t feed the troll everyone...

 

[Slender]

He's not more significant "because I said so", he's more significant because he's the main antagonist of two (soon to be three, four if you count the Luigi's Mansion arcade game) games. This is a big deal for a Mario character as it puts him ahead of everyone save Bowser, making him the only recurring final boss besides the Koopa King. Plus he has several appearances in Mario Kart and Mario Party games, sometimes as a boss and sometimes as a playable character, more so than any of the other king characters (again, unless you count Bowser as the Koopa King).

I like King Boo, and I think it'd be cool to see him appear as a DLC character, but the way you're putting yourself is making me want him a little less. Don't act like that, please. Everyone is entitled to like who they like, but that doesn't give anybody the power to put themselves on a pedestal.

 

[The Anigriffin]

He's not more significant "because I said so", he's more significant because he's the main antagonist of two (soon to be three, four if you count the Luigi's Mansion arcade game) games. This is a big deal for a Mario character as it puts him ahead of everyone save Bowser, making him the only recurring final boss besides the Koopa King. Plus he has several appearances in Mario Kart and Mario Party games, sometimes as a boss and sometimes as a playable character, more so than any of the other king characters (again, unless you count Bowser as the Koopa King).

...And? Being a villian means jack to Nintendo. Also... isn't Luigi's Mansion a spin off series? Just like SMRPG? Your same logic could go towards so many other characters, but you chose this specific character. Why? Because you like him? Well we like Geno, and your "facts" can't deter that. I'm sure there's a King Boo support thread and if not, why not make one? Being an annoyance to people because you dislike a video game character won't get you many friends in life.

 

[valkiriforce]

The way Geno makes sense to me is to include a unique character to represent the RPG games related to Mario; it would make sense to start with the one that has been around the longest and choose a character from the first game (and that's not to mention all the other points working in his favor). Again, having Geno in Smash could open the door later down the road for other side-characters from later games and spin-offs if the demand is there for it.

Honestly if Geno gets into Smash I would take that as the highest sign that Nintendo is clearly listening to their fans, and I think both Ridley and K. Rool have been along those same lines. He would never have been this considered had it not been for the fans, and even getting a Mii outfit feels like an honorary title as a potential future fighter. I wouldn't put it past Sakurai to be able to accomplish such an objective if we're in that miracle territory we know Smash to be, as Sakurai himself has stated in every interview concerning these types of characters.

 

[metallic shadow]

I like King Boo, and I think it'd be cool to see him appear as a DLC character, but the way you're putting yourself is making me want him a little less. Don't act like that, please. Everyone is entitled to like who they like, but that doesn't give anybody the power to put themselves on a pedestal.

I'm not putting myself on a pedestal, I'm putting King Boo on a pedestal.

...And? Being a villian means jack to Nintendo. Also... isn't Luigi's Mansion a spin off series? Just like SMRPG? Your same logic could go towards so many other characters, but you chose this specific character. Why? Because you like him? Well we like Geno, and your "facts" can't deter that. I'm sure there's a King Boo support thread and if not, why not make one? Being an annoyance to people because you dislike a video game character won't get you many friends in life.

Which characters do you mean? The other characters that have been main villains/final bosses in Mario games, like Tatanga, Smithy, and Dimentio are all one-offs. Luigi's Mansion is a spin-off series, but a recurring one that thus far has starred King Boo as the main antagonist every time. And if being a villain means nothing to Nintendo I'm surprised they went out of their way to draw those villain images just to show them off for one second in the K. Rool reveal.

 

[TheCJBrine]

I may as well place Geno on a higher pedestal because Sakurai bias and Nintendo's recent acknowledgement, but no, I'm not going to because I'm not a whiny Smash fan who "debates" characters by bashing them and their fans.

 

[JarBear]

Stop feeding the troll ... report and ignore ....

 

[beans]

Honestly, Geno depends on Sakurai's involvement with DLC.
I doubt Nintendo of Japan would go for him and would probally choose who brings the money or advertises something (Corrin's case: Sakurai admited there were enough FE reps, but had to add someone from a recent release and was convinced Corrin would bring an unique moveset)
Sakurai already expresse a preference for Geno, so our doll has the Get Out of Jail card of "Sakurai Bias"

The same card the gave us the weird "surprise reps" that never would've been chosen by anyone with a sane mind (Icies, Game and Watch, R.O.B, WiiFit, Duck Hunt Trio, freaking Pirana Plant)
Also the same card that makes miracles, such as the first 3rd party rep, Snake, from a franchise from mostly in a competitors console. Why was he considered? Kojima asked Sakurai, and Sakurai went "sure bro"

Joker is advertising Persona Q2 in the 3DS, or the entire Persona sub-franchise...
... or he has a Sakurai Bias card on his sleeve (https://www.sourcegaming.info/2016/11/24/the-aims-of-ui-sakurais-famitsu-column-vol-515/)
Sakurai expressed his admiration for the game in an article, thus possibly throwing a wrench in expectation.
Is Joker shilling something or was he favored from the start by Sakurai?
Does he means NoJ vision on P5 bringing Persona into a bigger spotlight as a chance for bringing something current or did Sakurai influence the choices?
He's a real wild card +4

 

[6eyondthegrave]

It's King Boo, obviously. The second biggest villain in the Mario series, who just had his first game remade this year and will get a new one next year. And who you somehow forgot to put in your signature despite having several less notable and less significant characters than him.

That's a cool suggestion but it doesn't make Geno any less than what you've selected. We all love Geno and shared that passion across 560 pages. You have your reasons for King Boo and although I don't really understand why, because I'm not you, I won't knock it.

 

[Xigger]

I wouldn't put it past Sakurai to be able to accomplish such an objective if we're in that miracle territory we know Smash to be, as Sakurai himself has stated in every interview concerning these types of characters.

Sakurai does admittedly take pride in reviving characters and franchises.

• Brought Fire Emblem fame outside of Japan
• Revived Kid Icarus, recreated Pit and Palutena
• Called dibs on bringing back K. Rool, rather than in Donkey Kong Country Returns
• Technically revived all missing Smash veterans in Ultimate?

 

[HolyKnight]

Sakurai does admittedly take pride in reviving characters and franchises.

• Brought Fire Emblem fame outside of Japan
• Revived Kid Icarus, recreated Pit and Palutena
• Called dibs on bringing back K. Rool, rather than in Donkey Kong Country Returns
• Technically revived all missing Smash veterans in Ultimate?

Imagine, the E3 show gives us Banjo + a new banjo game, and Geno and a second smrpg game. I'd probably die of excitement and shock at the same time. But i'd be cool with it.

 

[6eyondthegrave]

Imagine, the E3 show gives us Banjo + a new banjo game, and Geno and a second smrpg game. I'd probably die of excitement and shock at the same time. But i'd be cool with it.

Especially a 2nd smrpg game! It would make sense for square to partner up with nintendo again. It would be so epic!

 

[TerminalMontage]

If you want you can PM me their screen name and I'll run it through the ol' bull**** gauntlet to see if they have any kind of credible history.

I tried but it said I can't message you? Wanna try PMing me?

 

[The Anigriffin]

Sakurai does admittedly take pride in reviving characters and franchises.

• Brought Fire Emblem fame outside of Japan
• Revived Kid Icarus, recreated Pit and Palutena
• Called dibs on bringing back K. Rool, rather than in Donkey Kong Country Returns
• Technically revived all missing Smash veterans in Ultimate?

Can't ignore EarthBound. Ness's addition while not being a revival, certainly exposed the franchise to more people.

 

[Potatu]

Guys, you're all wrong. Geno, Fawful, Dimentio? **** them. They're characters from totally not well-received games and definitely not loved by their fanbases. Instead, pay tribute to Gourmet Guy. He was the pinnacle of the Paper Mario franchise and if it weren't for him, Paper Mario would've died right on the spot.

 

[Ze Diglett]

This is now the Gourmet Guy support thread.

GTFO if you don't support our lord and savior, Gourmet Guy.

 

[Xigger]

Can't ignore EarthBound. Ness's addition while not being a revival, certainly exposed the franchise to more people.

• No more games: Ness, Captain Falcon, Ice Climbers, Mr. Game&Watch, Solid Snake, Lucas, R.O.B., Duck Hunt
• One-time characters: Sheik, Shulk, some Pokemon and Fire Emblem characters
• Exposed franchises: all of them

Snake is debatable but that gets into spoiler territory

 

[beans]

• No more games: Ness, Captain Falcon, Ice Climbers, Mr. Game&Watch, Solid Snake, Lucas, R.O.B., Duck Hunt
• One-time characters: Sheik, Shulk, some Pokemon and Fire Emblem characters
• Exposed franchises: all of them

Snake is debatable but that gets into spoiler territory

Funny looking at Falcon, Ness and Lucas.
Falcon was from a franchise that was getting games
Ness was from an hyped release in Japan and related to Earthbound 64
Lucas was from a game that was never localized, and if Sakurai knew about it, Lucas would've been cut from Brawl

 

[Loliko YnT]

No, not Waluigi. And not Toad or Captain Toad either.

Dude , I know that Doctor Luigi is a gaming legend. No need to remind us such an obvious fact.

 

[The Anigriffin]

>When everyone in your circle of Smash friends thinks Frisk is suddenly super likely because Peeky Bird tweeted this
https://twitter.com/thepeekybird/status/1075464150401323008

 

[OptimisticStrifer]

>When everyone in your circle of Smash friends thinks Frisk is suddenly super likely because Peeky Bird tweeted this
https://twitter.com/thepeekybird/status/1075464150401323008

Who is this peekybird guy? Never heard of him but I'm intrigued. Has he got any credibility?

 

[alemerltoucanet]

>When everyone in your circle of Smash friends thinks Frisk is suddenly super likely because Peeky Bird tweeted this
https://twitter.com/thepeekybird/status/1075464150401323008

But I want Sans, not Frisk. :')


above all else is Geno though.

 

[The Anigriffin]

Who is this peekybird guy? Never heard of him but I'm intrigued. Has he got any credibility?

Supposedly Joker because he tweeted "You'll never see it coming" once.

How soon we forget Loz18.

 

[Dan]

Huh; I like Geno and King Boo. Never considered King Boo though, but he seems like a very Sakurai pick for the next Mario rep (whenever that is [if it even happens]); I honestly wouldn't be surprised if we get him to promote the Switch game - the kind of no-brainer character no one expected.

Geno is a one-off side character from a 22 year old game. He is a non-entity in the story of SMRPG past his brief introduction and he has no discernible personality. I'm going to go ****ing ballistic if you bandwagoners meme him into the roster when there is a much more deserving and distinguished Mario character out there.

Is every character but Mario a side character?

Didn't Geno kind of have a significant impact on the story, especially at the end? It's also not a meme; it's a genuine desire for a character.

Geno at least shows some personality even if he's mostly silent (from what I've read), and if people are bandwagoning it's probably because they like the character.

He's not really mostly silent, but what does that even matter? Mario is entirely silent.

 

[PokéfreakofBACON]

Who is this peekybird guy? Never heard of him but I'm intrigued. Has he got any credibility?

I'd say he does. I'm pretty skeptical of "insiders" and the only ones I believe with certainty are Verge and PolarPanda (I don't always believe their opinions, just their info. I don't think we're getting Erdrick.) but Peekybird is definitely not someone I would immediately discredit. Does this point to Frisk/Sans? We don't even know, it could literally mean a thousand things, or nothing at all. I don't think we should say he's just bull**** though.

 

[childishgamgeno]

Also, kind of weird people don’t think Geno had a significant impact in SMRPG when he

-is literally the Mario of Star Road
-is one of the strongest characters in game. (Geno Whirl 9,999 damage meme survived to this day. I also believe this wasn’t patched in VC or SNES Classic)
-cult following led to Mii Costume last game
-is basically the 2nd protagonist after Mario

 

[The Anigriffin]

Thing is, it honestly doesn't look like Frisk to me. To me its more likely a reaction to something as the Frisk face would have one less underscore. I know this sounds dumb, and it probably is, but -_- looks more like Frisk to me than -__- Just a personal gripe though.

 

[Sovereign Trinity]

I mean I made a post response to the NoA twitter account saying “Geno for Smash” and for as many likes as it got there were several people who went out of their way to say I was delusional for thinking he’d ever be in Smash, that he’s not popular, that he’s popular because of mob mentality, that he’s popular because of nostalgia.

The same could be said about King K. Rool, Lucas, Pit, and Sheik. They're characters that got in because of nostalgia and everybody loves them. Us King K. Rool fans were also the minority back then and were judged about wanting our Krocodile King in the game, but look at how the tables have ****ing turned, the King K. Rool and Ridley haters finally shut it once our reptile boys got in.

Don't forget about Geno haters when they say, "He only appears in one game!" Yeah, I guess they're forgetting about Lucas, the Ice Climbers, and the Duck Hunt trio, huh? Lucas is actually in the same category as Geno, with him being a protagonist of his own game and was long-forgotten until he made it in Brawl. Same goes for Pit, haven't appearing since the Game Boy era until he made it in Brawl, then he got a new game a few years later for the 3DS. And the funny thing is, Geno actually appears in two games, not one!

And then they said he's not popular? Geno scored #3 in popularity on the OFFICIAL Brawl poll in Japan back from 2006.

 

[TheCJBrine]

Since no one else knew about Joker I really doubt this PeekyBird guy knew.

It also seems Smash isn't the only thing he "leaks," since he's claiming multiple (at least 2(?)) directs next year (which is a safe guess and isn't really necessary for a leak lol).

 

[childishgamgeno]

Honestly, Geno depends on Sakurai's involvement with DLC.
I doubt Nintendo of Japan would go for him and would probally choose who brings the money or advertises something (Corrin's case: Sakurai admited there were enough FE reps, but had to add someone from a recent release and was convinced Corrin would bring an unique moveset)
Sakurai already expresse a preference for Geno, so our doll has the Get Out of Jail card of "Sakurai Bias"

The same card the gave us the weird "surprise reps" that never would've been chosen by anyone with a sane mind (Icies, Game and Watch, R.O.B, WiiFit, Duck Hunt Trio, freaking Pirana Plant)
Also the same card that makes miracles, such as the first 3rd party rep, Snake, from a franchise from mostly in a competitors console. Why was he considered? Kojima asked Sakurai, and Sakurai went "sure bro"

Joker is advertising Persona Q2 in the 3DS, or the entire Persona sub-franchise...
... or he has a Sakurai Bias card on his sleeve (https://www.sourcegaming.info/2016/11/24/the-aims-of-ui-sakurais-famitsu-column-vol-515/)
Sakurai expressed his admiration for the game in an article, thus possibly throwing a wrench in expectation.
Is Joker shilling something or was he favored from the start by Sakurai?
Does he means NoJ vision on P5 bringing Persona into a bigger spotlight as a chance for bringing something current or did Sakurai influence the choices?
He's a real wild card +4

That Sakurai bias be hittin. MMMMM is that a droplet of hope I taste?

>When everyone in your circle of Smash friends thinks Frisk is suddenly super likely because Peeky Bird tweeted this
https://twitter.com/thepeekybird/status/1075464150401323008

Doubt. lol. Usually if it's a Smash thing, they'll try to link it to Smash. Also, imagine the riots of Frisk getting in and not, idk, Shovel Knight

 

[Mogisthelioma]

Geno is a one-off side character from a 22 year old game. He is a non-entity in the story of SMRPG past his brief introduction and he has no discernible personality. I'm going to go ****ing ballistic if you bandwagoners meme him into the roster when there is a much more deserving and distinguished Mario character out there.

All the points you made are right, but your attitude is toxic. Maybe leave the thread and cry somewhere else. "Oh no, I came to the Geno thread, now everyone is supporting a character I don't like!" Just leave, for crap's sake. I assume you hate every other popular fighter request in existence. And since this is your first post in like forever, I'm gonna assume you're a troll. Begone.