Geno (♥♪!?): Return of the Starsend Savior

[AceAttorney9000]

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Natedrake said that Nintendo news is soon

Nothing about a general Direct, and it's early in the month so a Partner Showcase is less likely.

Guess that leaves either a Sakurai Presents or a non-Partner Direct mini.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

There is probably going to be an animal crossing direct, the news could be that. lol

 

[Nazyrus]

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Natedrake said that Nintendo news is soon

Well just because he says he hasn't heard doesn't mean he always has to hear about it, he clearly doesn't hear about many things as we have learned, lol. But if we amuse that there is no general direct, that just means there isn't a plan for live streamed news, since he is the one himself that said once that the difference between mini is not length at all, it's just the fact that one you can skip over and the other you cannot. We could be getting either smash news as a stand alone presentation, or a mini focusing on whatever remaining announcements are left + finally some other first parties like whatever is supposed to come in November to help the switch sell more before black friday and such. Either way, more news is to be expected if that remaining maintenance next week and / or the nintendo direct archive update are leads for something coming as they (the updates) have been at least since July, if not even many times more in the past.

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

In other news, the Xbox Series S just got leaked, and I guess the S stands for speaker.

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(the design IS real and verified by people like ZhugEx on twitter, but people are unsure if the price is real or just a placeholder.)

What the **** is that

 

[Deleted member]

The wait continues...

 

[TheShiningAbsol]

What the **** is that

It's an Xbox Series S

 

[Aaron1997]

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More info on both Xbox console's

 

[MattOnwheels]

A little gift for @Maxie !

 

[Vector Victor]

YOU. SHADOW REALM. NOW.
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Allow me to at least lose a children's card game before going there.

 

[super88cloud]

I still find it incredibly odd anyone expects a Smash reveal soon when they dropped Small Battlefield and balances instead of a hotfix update. Sure, that's not a silver bullet, but then people are suddenly so sure that Geno is for sure Fighter 7? We just got a Direct entirely focused on Mario that announced Smash content with a direct focus on Mario. Seems like the type of venue you'd announce a Mario DLC fighter if they were the next in the deck.

MIIBO's and the 14th's server maintenance.
Announcing a character and releasing within the same week is noyt the same.
So yeah, we can expect an announcement soon,it's not crazy.
P.s. edit: the ammount of wait between min min and fp7 will probably set the pattern of wait under the new circumstanzces.
I expect maybe some updates or postponing the fighters pass dates with fp7 if it's too much of a hassle to remote develop.

 

[AdamBel731]

Don't mind me Nintendo. You can continue to sit on more Fighters Pass information, but I know Geno is coming. We know Geno is coming. So please, take your time. Yep. I'll be here waiting until you announce Geno. I will not die until he is announced. A car could hit me or I could die of information drought (the more likely scenario it seems), and I'll still be kicking until Geno is announced.

Do it already Nintendo.

 

[MattOnwheels]

Don't mind me Nintendo. You can continue to sit on more Fighters Pass information, but I know Geno is coming. We know Geno is coming. So please, take your time. Yep. I'll be here waiting until you announce Geno. I will not die until he is announced. A car could hit me or I could die of information drought (the more likely scenario it seems), and I'll still be kicking until Geno is announced.

Do it already Nintendo.
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Pfft! Not me, brother! I don't wanna wait! I want him NOW!! ~

"Where's. My. Geno?!"
"Where's. My. Geno?!"
"Where's. My. Geno---GAH!!"

 

[MisterMike]

What the **** is that

THE FUTURE, LAD, THE FUTURE!

 

[Deleted member]

Something that has really bugged me since the Mario direct is a point that most people have noticed:

Why does a Smash Bros event tournament have to wait until November or December to happen for Mario's 35th Anniversary when all of the characters, items, and stages to make it happen are already in the game? We're not being asked to wait until then for a character, at least, not that we know...

But I've been thinking about it a bit more, so here's a little theory to chew on: it was supposed to happen last week. A lot of us have noticed that there was no event tournament announcement last Tuesday nor was there an event tournament that week.

Let's assume for a moment that a Mario character is coming out this month, and for that reason, there's a two/three month delay (September to November/December) to have a Mario series event tournament. If it was supposed to be last week, then the original release for this character would have to have been two or three months ago, if they wanted to keep this two to three month waiting period... so June (E3) or July, most likely July because last year, we saw a character be revealed at E3 and released in July (after being delayed) - Hero.

July, huh... Which happens to have been when the infamous Gamestop video dropped (13th), in which we were all told about how people were freaking out when Geno was revealed for Smash. But that's not enough, July is also when Grubb, Imran and Andre Gamexplain started taking the piss about Geno on Twitter, the night before (19th) what most assumed would be the Direct, the one we should have gotten for E3 and the one that apparently still hasn't happened.

 

[Bee Card]

What the **** is that

It's a hotplate for cooking

 

[Deleted member]

A little gift for @Maxie !

I needed that. Thank you. King would care about Geno in Smash if he got to know him. Well, he has to know what SMRPG and video games are first.

Also, no general direct, but it's also earlier in the month, so it's less likely to be a Partner Showcase. Maybe it'll be a Sakurai Presents or a direct mini. Sakurai Presents would be my guess.

 

[TooManyToastahs]

Y’know, now that we’re talking about funny coincidences, you guys remember ULTiMA? The Polish game retailer that put up a ton of Amiibo restocks for preorder back in June/July? Looking back through some of my notes, I realized something...

They were all supposed to be restocked on September 18th, the same day the Mario 3D All Stars collection releases.

There were a lot of Mario series Amiibos (Which makes sense, since it would coincide with Mario’s 35th Anniversary), some Zelda series Amiibos (Which go along with BOTW 2 being in development and some murmurings of one or two other game announcements being shown this year), some Splatoon series Amiibos (Rumors of something else Splatoon related have been floating around for a bit), and... the Two Cloud amiibos for some reason...

There’s one more reason I’m bringing all this up: The pre order listings are gone. It’s tin foil hat theory time folks.

The listings were removed because Nintendo was farther behind schedule then they let on, and ULTiMA had to adjust their rerelease schedule. The Mario Series Amiibos could’ve still been up for preorder thanks to Super Mario 3D All Stars, but the Zelda, Splatoon, and Cloud Amiibo restocks had to be pulled because their coinciding announcements have not been, well, announced yet.

So, in a scramble to fix the rerelease schedule, ULTiMA just pulled all of the listings down altogether, and will probably put them back up for preorder when most other retailers set up theirs.

 

[super88cloud]

THE FUTURE, LAD, THE FUTURE!

Ugly as sin. Both new consoles look ugly as sin. And I don´t even like the ps4 or xbone, too.

 

[Fatmanonice]

In very interesting news, this leaked in the dead of night:

Hong Kong distributor lists Ninja Gaiden Trilogy for PS4, Switch

Hong Kong distributor Game Source Entertainment has listed a “Ninja Gaiden Trilogy” for PlayStation 4 and Switch.

www.gematsu.com

Throw another big game announcement leak on the ever growing pile.

 

[J. Bond]

Yeah I'm thinking NG4 is happening and Hayabusa is in

 

[a random user]

In very interesting news, this leaked in the dead of night:

Hong Kong distributor lists Ninja Gaiden Trilogy for PS4, Switch

Hong Kong distributor Game Source Entertainment has listed a “Ninja Gaiden Trilogy” for PlayStation 4 and Switch.

www.gematsu.com

Throw another big game announcement leak on the ever growing pile.

just for people unfamiliar, this is the latter 3d games on ds(1), ps3/360(2), and ps3/360/wii u(3), insted of the classic's on nes most people are familiar with.

 

[Nesysli]

While it's not a confirmation by any means, it's good to see that Ninja Gaiden might be coming to the current gen. Hopefully Koei Tecmo & Nintendo decided before to put Hayabusa in Smash since they have such a tight relationship. I guess only time will tell

 

[Fatmanonice]

I got Ninja Gaiden intel back in December so this surfacing now is really interesting:

Geno (♥♪!?): Return of the Starsend Savior

I wouldn't agree with Crooner if I were you. He got banned for calling out Wynn. Might put you on the chopping block too by association. Actually, he was banned for receiving multiple flaming and trolling warnings over the course of a few weeks; it wasn't just a single incident. It's possible...

smashboards.com

Makes me wonder if Ninja Gaiden 4 is going to happen after all.

 

[Griselda]

I wouldn't mind Ryu in Smash, if he had a Classic Ninja Gaiden alt, since those are the ones I played and am most familiar with. Maybe an outfit based on the old Ninja Gaiden OVA? He'd be a nice addition to the cast, anyway. ..After I get Geno, of course. I know I've said it before, but it's almost a desperate feeling at this point - that I just want Geno and it doesn't matter to me who else gets in. I know we seem to be seeing evidence pointing towards Geno more and more often lately, so maybe I shouldn't be worrying. I dunno, I guess I'm just pretty tired at the moment. I'm gonna go to bed.

 

[MattX20]

I got Ninja Gaiden intel back in December so this surfacing now is really interesting:

Geno (♥♪!?): Return of the Starsend Savior

I wouldn't agree with Crooner if I were you. He got banned for calling out Wynn. Might put you on the chopping block too by association. Actually, he was banned for receiving multiple flaming and trolling warnings over the course of a few weeks; it wasn't just a single incident. It's possible...

smashboards.com

Makes me wonder if Ninja Gaiden 4 is going to happen after all.

At bare minimum, it looks we might be getting the modern Ninja Gaiden trilogy

 

[Inawordyes]

Something that has really bugged me since the Mario direct is a point that most people have noticed:

Why does a Smash Bros event tournament have to wait until November or December to happen for Mario's 35th Anniversary when all of the characters, items, and stages to make it happen are already in the game? We're not being asked to wait until then for a character, at least, not that we know...

But I've been thinking about it a bit more, so here's a little theory to chew on: it was supposed to happen last week. A lot of us have noticed that there was no event tournament announcement last Tuesday nor was there an event tournament that week.

Let's assume for a moment that a Mario character is coming out this month, and for that reason, there's a two/three month delay (September to November/December) to have a Mario series event tournament. If it was supposed to be last week, then the original release for this character would have to have been two or three months ago, if they wanted to keep this two to three month waiting period... so June (E3) or July, most likely July because last year, we saw a character be revealed at E3 and released in July (after being delayed) - Hero.

July, huh... Which happens to have been when the infamous Gamestop video dropped (13th), in which we were all told about how people were freaking out when Geno was revealed for Smash. But that's not enough, July is also when Grubb, Imran and Andre Gamexplain started taking the piss about Geno on Twitter, the night before (19th) what most assumed would be the Direct, the one we should have gotten for E3 and the one that apparently still hasn't happened.

Hypothetically, assuming that we’re getting a Direct or a Presents this month, and with the Amiibo drop (Which apparenty may have been shadow-delayed again, but let’s say for the sake of the hypothetical it hasn’t) implying a Sept-Early Oct release date for 7, would the fact that the Mario tournament is in Nov/Dec - two months away, like the release schedule for FP1 - imply we’re getting two character releases beforehand, with it being inferred that’s they’re both Mario characters (Geno/Waluigi)? With this originally being the E3 reveal character(s), if we were getting Waluigi in the pass or as a bonus, he likely gets shown off at E3 with 7/8, so it wouldn’t be too large a stretch.

I know it’s out there a bit, and obviously the schedule is all levels of messed up and unpredictable atm without a reveal or release to judge off of, but with it being so far away, even if Geno was coming and releasing in the next month, why wait an extra two months to have the tournament if we weren’t getting another character short beforehand, where on a ‘normal schedule’ they’d be releasing around that time anyhow? I don’t see Geno getting revealed this month and then them holding off on him for 2-3 months after reveal, which means there will still be a decent amount of time between his release and the tournament.

 

[Vector Victor]

I feel that we are at a yet another dam bursting moment again for information and Nintendo is eagerly waiting to throw the doors wide open and LET OUT A MASSIVE.......trickle of information on the bare minimum of news and then go back to being silent.

Nintendo feels like story plot where the two main characters, who are clearly in love, just have to spit out their feelings to each other to go to the next level of their relationship, and just when things are teased enough that they will, they back out or hold back their true feelings or cause a contrite and dumb misunderstanding to have an argument, delaying the plot point further.

 

[DarkShadow20]

Something that has really bugged me since the Mario direct is a point that most people have noticed:

Why does a Smash Bros event tournament have to wait until November or December to happen for Mario's 35th Anniversary when all of the characters, items, and stages to make it happen are already in the game? We're not being asked to wait until then for a character, at least, not that we know...

But I've been thinking about it a bit more, so here's a little theory to chew on: it was supposed to happen last week. A lot of us have noticed that there was no event tournament announcement last Tuesday nor was there an event tournament that week.

Let's assume for a moment that a Mario character is coming out this month, and for that reason, there's a two/three month delay (September to November/December) to have a Mario series event tournament. If it was supposed to be last week, then the original release for this character would have to have been two or three months ago, if they wanted to keep this two to three month waiting period... so June (E3) or July, most likely July because last year, we saw a character be revealed at E3 and released in July (after being delayed) - Hero.

July, huh... Which happens to have been when the infamous Gamestop video dropped (13th), in which we were all told about how people were freaking out when Geno was revealed for Smash. But that's not enough, July is also when Grubb, Imran and Andre Gamexplain started taking the piss about Geno on Twitter, the night before (19th) what most assumed would be the Direct, the one we should have gotten for E3 and the one that apparently still hasn't happened.

Very nice theory. It would have made more sense for the Mario tournament to start last week during Mario’s 35th anniversary month so why delay it unless we’re supposed to get another Mario character? If that’s the case, they would want to give everyone enough time to practice with this new character before the tournament. It wouldn’t make too much sense to release a new Mario character and then immediately have a tournament that includes it. So since said character hasn’t been revealed yet, it makes sense that the tournament has been pushed back a couple of months.

Let’s see if we get anything announced on Twitter today or if we get a weekly Smash event announced tonight.

 

[KCCHIEFS27]

Remember everyone, every single new game in a third party franchise is indeed a confirmation that they're coming to Smash!

 

[Fatmanonice]

Remember everyone, every single new game in a third party franchise is indeed a confirmation that they're coming to Smash!

Yeah, that's kind of my thoughts too. With the release date being late March, if Ryu really is coming then he's going to be 10 at the earliest and that seems... Late. Koei Tecmo said they had no new plans for Ninja Gaiden back in I want to say February this year so this collection to promote him coming to Smash would seem a little odd. We know ports don't take as much work as full on games so it kind of makes me wonder if Tecmo was wrestling with this idea for a long time (possibly why my guy heard Ninja Gaiden stuff in December) and then finally decided to pull the trigger sometime in the spring. Either way, it's an interesting turn of events because, after being in the rumor mill for almost 2 years, Ryu FINALLY has something to his name.

 

[RetrogamerMax]

I'm afraid one of these days, I'm going to be asleep and while I'm asleep, Nintendo is going to shadowdrop Geno on us and I won't be here to celebrate with y'all the moment he get's in. I hope Nintendo and Sakurai announces a Presentation or Direct a day or two prior.

 

[Let Geno Smash]

Ok this Ninja Gaiden leak reminds me to something: The day before Byleth's reveal there was a Japanese post which says that originally the 1st pass would be Hero, Banjo, Terry, Ryu Hayabusa and Joker but how Nintendo saw the 5channel post (Joker, Erdrick, Hayabusa, Steve and DoomSlayer) they decided to delay Hayabusa to the 2nd pass, it also would fit with a new Ninja Gaiden project coming. The 5th DLC will be 1st party and the FP3 negotiations alredy started. Most Likely false to the fact that we would get a 3rd Pass but it is worth mention it

 

[Megadoomer]

In very interesting news, this leaked in the dead of night:

Hong Kong distributor lists Ninja Gaiden Trilogy for PS4, Switch

Hong Kong distributor Game Source Entertainment has listed a “Ninja Gaiden Trilogy” for PlayStation 4 and Switch.

www.gematsu.com

Throw another big game announcement leak on the ever growing pile.

I get why you posted this here, since you posted a rumour about Ninja Gaiden before, but for stuff like this, wouldn't it make more sense to post it in the thread for that character as well? I've already posted it in the Ryu Hayabusa thread, but I'd think it would get more interest there, for future reference.

I'm not sure how much of an overlap there is between Geno fans and Ninja Gaiden fans, but the overlap between Ninja Gaiden fans and Ryu Hayabusa fans seems like it would be a near-perfect circle. (there might be some people who like him for his Dead or Alive appearances; I don't know)

 

[RetrogamerMax]

I had a weird dream about Ryu Hayabusa in Smash a couple of weeks ago. He was on the Battlefield stage and he was in his normal/NES stance and he didn't move at all and that was it. No CGI cutscenes or gameplay montage just Hayabusa in his stance on Battlefield.

 

[Snoop_nogg]

just for people unfamiliar, this is the latter 3d games on ds(1), ps3/360(2), and ps3/360/wii u(3), insted of the classic's on nes most people are familiar with.

I'll happily take the classic NES trilogy, too.

 

[Trevenant]

I wouldn't exactly say these games raise the chances of a direct as the likelihood of one of those is already pretty low and dare I say near zero. I've been seeing some people say it does on other sites but it really doesn't. The Mario Direct and Partner Showcases kind of put the nail in the coffin for that and is one of the reasons why thinking a general direct of any kind really is just based on way too much optimism.

Still though, that's a segway into how we should receive a spirit event or tourney tomorrow so we can see whether they missed that event last week just because of the Mario direct. If we don't something must be up.

 

[Deleted member]

Very nice theory. It would have made more sense for the Mario tournament to start last week during Mario’s 35th anniversary month so why delay it unless we’re supposed to get another Mario character? If that’s the case, they would want to give everyone enough time to practice with this new character before the tournament. It wouldn’t make too much sense to release a new Mario character and then immediately have a tournament that includes it. So since said character hasn’t been revealed yet, it makes sense that the tournament has been pushed back a couple of months.

Let’s see if we get anything announced on Twitter today or if we get a weekly Smash event announced tonight.

Hypothetically, assuming that we’re getting a Direct or a Presents this month, and with the Amiibo drop (Which apparenty may have been shadow-delayed again, but let’s say for the sake of the hypothetical it hasn’t) implying a Sept-Early Oct release date for 7, would the fact that the Mario tournament is in Nov/Dec - two months away, like the release schedule for FP1 - imply we’re getting two character releases beforehand, with it being inferred that’s they’re both Mario characters (Geno/Waluigi)? With this originally being the E3 reveal character(s), if we were getting Waluigi in the pass or as a bonus, he likely gets shown off at E3 with 7/8, so it wouldn’t be too large a stretch.

I know it’s out there a bit, and obviously the schedule is all levels of messed up and unpredictable atm without a reveal or release to judge off of, but with it being so far away, even if Geno was coming and releasing in the next month, why wait an extra two months to have the tournament if we weren’t getting another character short beforehand, where on a ‘normal schedule’ they’d be releasing around that time anyhow? I don’t see Geno getting revealed this month and then them holding off on him for 2-3 months after reveal, which means there will still be a decent amount of time between his release and the tournament.

You guys both had basically the same ideas. The cult of Geno strikes again.[/sarcasm]

The angle that they want people to get some practice time in is basically what a lot of people ride on for why there'd be a delay in the first place, but I actually don't think this is the case. Joker and Hero didn't receive a themed tournament, but Banjo, Terry, Byleth and Min Min were all the focus of an event tournament literally the week after their release. Factoring in the idea that Nintendo keeps very real metrics of which characters people are playing online as well as their results to assist in balancing, they have to know that when a character comes out, people are flooding the matches with them, so a brand new character would basically dominate the tournament, practice or not, and the lack of matchup experience would provide good results to people with solid fundamentals. There is something more to this delay, maybe as a result of the knowledge that a new character gets more play simply because they're new, they want to let the new wear off to have a more diverse tournament?

I think there could be another Mario character... but the odds are incredibly slim. I mean, we've all been keen on this idea of a bonus character or two, and the timing is perfect All I'm hoping is that it doesn't mean they've pushed this character back even farther, Geno or not. We have waited long enough as a gaming community, not just as a character hope community.

Remember everyone, every single new game in a third party franchise is indeed a confirmation that they're coming to Smash!

Funny, I mused about something similar to this last night. Let's stack the evidence for Geno up, real quick.

• Mii costume did not return with the Square character of the first pass and has missed several opportunities since.
• Literal video leak featuring the other Square-owned Mario character as a Mii hat comes out of nowhere and is never disproven or claimed by anyone.
• GameStop promotional video for Paper Mario in which the narrator claims people were freaking out when Geno was included in Smash.
• GameStop's subsequent mangling of how they handled damage control for what they claim was about his spirit.
• Insiders playing coy about Geno the night before what people assume is the Direct.
• A remake of his home game potentially coming.

All of that is just scraping the surface, there is of course more, whether or not the general population of this thread knows about all of it, but all of this is public facing knowledge (and even then, not all of the public knowledge is here, either). Even with this staring everyone in the face, Geno is still doubted, somehow, I guess by virtue of being Geno. If any other character in the whole world had this lined up for them, not a single soul would deny that they are not only in, but next in line. The proof of this is written in bold ink when characters like Ryu Hayabusa and Dante Devilmaycry enter the fray for the thousandth time based simply on a collection of Xbox titles or Kamiya saying something vague.

 

[T2by4]

usually insiders speak up about upcoming direct
bunch are super quiet now
some even saying there wont be any directs this month

We aren't getting our Smash character this month, are we?

 

[DarkShadow20]

You guys both had basically the same ideas. The cult of Geno strikes again.[/sarcasm]

The angle that they want people to get some practice time in is basically what a lot of people ride on for why there'd be a delay in the first place, but I actually don't think this is the case. Joker and Hero didn't receive a themed tournament, but Banjo, Terry, Byleth and Min Min were all the focus of an event tournament literally the week after their release. Factoring in the idea that Nintendo keeps very real metrics of which characters people are playing online as well as their results to assist in balancing, they have to know that when a character comes out, people are flooding the matches with them, so a brand new character would basically dominate the tournament, practice or not, and the lack of matchup experience would provide good results to people with solid fundamentals. There is something more to this delay, maybe as a result of the knowledge that a new character gets more play simply because they're new, they want to let the new wear off to have a more diverse tournament?

I think there could be another Mario character... but the odds are incredibly slim. I mean, we've all been keen on this idea of a bonus character or two, and the timing is perfect All I'm hoping is that it doesn't mean they've pushed this character back even farther, Geno or not. We have waited long enough as a gaming community, not just as a character hope community.



Funny, I mused about something similar to this last night. Let's stack the evidence for Geno up, real quick.

• Mii costume did not return with the Square character of the first pass and has missed several opportunities since.
• Literal video leak featuring the other Square-owned Mario character as a Mii hat comes out of nowhere and is never disproven or claimed by anyone.
• GameStop promotional video for Paper Mario in which the narrator claims people were freaking out when Geno was included in Smash.
• GameStop's subsequent mangling of how they handled damage control for what they claim was about his spirit.
• Insiders playing coy about Geno the night before what people assume is the Direct.
• A remake of his home game potentially coming.

All of that is just scraping the surface, there is of course more, whether or not the general population of this thread knows about all of it, but all of this is public facing knowledge (and even then, not all of the public knowledge is here, either). Even with this staring everyone in the face, Geno is still doubted, somehow, I guess by virtue of being Geno. If any other character in the whole world had this lined up for them, not a single soul would deny that they are not only in, but next in line. The proof of this is written in bold ink when characters like Ryu Hayabusa and Dante Devilmaycry enter the fray for the thousandth time based simply on a collection of Xbox titles or Kamiya saying something vague.

Well the difference between those tournaments and this one is that those were just normal weekly tournaments that lasted a few days. This one has a physical prize involved and will likely last a few weeks.

 

[Deleted member]

Well the difference between those tournaments and this one is that those were just normal weekly tournaments that lasted a few days. This one has a physical prize involved and will likely last a few weeks.

I hella missed that part, then. I had no idea there was a prize involved for a tournament that I assume isn't Japan only. I honestly wasn't even aware it lasts multiple weeks!