Geno (♥♪!?): Return of the Starsend Savior

[JarBear]

In other news, the source code for SMRPG (along with a few other games) apparently just got leaked.

reputable the leak?

 

[Fatmanonice]

If Nintendo decides to make another Sunday announcement, I really hope it's in the afternoon and not ****in' midnight like last week. Staying up only to find out that Nintendo decided to draw and quarter it's E3 presentation was one of the worst things about it.

 

[Deleted member]

Nimbus Land: "That's bull**** but I believe it."

Just like us with your theories

 

[MattX20]

If Nintendo decides to make another Sunday announcement, I really hope it's in the afternoon and not ****in' midnight like last week. Staying up only to find out that Nintendo decided to draw and quarter it's E3 presentation was one of the worst things about it.

I wouldn't be surprised if they do the midnight announcement thing again. Remember, Japan's timezone is ahead of us quite a bit

 

[Deleted member]

I like how they made SMRPG's ending. It did feel like a good end to an amazing game, but there's still more questions we have and things we're unaware of, like why there are so many Smithy heads in the final fight against Smithy, or who Geno's "higher authority" is.

 

[Dukefire]

We will see once next week rolls around. I don't think that Nintendo isn't going to leave us hanging with the first 10 minutes mini direct for the summer. Speaking of which, better get ready to play SMRPG with an emulator.

 

[PestilenceSSB]

I have a quick statement for y'all Geno supporters. Even though I have zero experience with and emotional attachment to your character, I think I can empathize with your struggle through the prism of my obsession with King K. Rool, who was my most wanted Smash character of all time. I remember discovering Geno when I was getting familiar with Smash speculation in the pre-Sm4sh days... the fact that he earned such a passionate following over the years surprised me at first. I then ended up doing my research on the character, finding out about his debut game, his backstory and his abilities, and I've got to say that to this day, it isn't surprising that he (and SMRPG as a whole) earned said following given the quality of the worldbuilding and characterization... I know it can be hard at times, but I know you're strong enough to ignore the haters. No matter what happens to Geno, I admire your perseverance and your passion.

 

[T2by4]

>Square enix games getting massive discount on switch for the next few weeks
>smrpg source code leaked

Bros... Is it time?

 

[Deleted member]

>smrpg leaked on eshop

Wait it did? I thought just the source code of it got leaked.

But yeah either way I think Geno's in

 

[T2by4]

Wait it did? I thought just the source code of it got leaked.

But yeah either way I think Geno's in

Corrected. My mistake

 

[PestilenceSSB]

Also, I've been looking at Fatman's claims for the past couple weeks or so... even though I don't really know much about his background and his credibility (even though from what I understand, he seems to fill in the blanks in the info he gets with some theorycrafting) I've got to say that they're really interesting and that I would be happy if even a few things he hinted towards/thinks will happen panned out.

 

[Wazygoose]

Theory: Smithy is like General Grievous

In his boss fight he literally changes his own head, so we know he's capable of just making the heads himself. And, his eyes move independent of his body like they're true organic eyes and he's consciously looking around. He was once fully-organic and chose to put himself in a replaceable robot body to reign over an everlasting empire with killing machines he manufactures.

In SMRPG the final boss is having to deal with the truth that you just killed a living person.

 

[Lord Woomy]

Smash Fans: "Wow, seeing as how there was never a 3 Houses spirit event and Byleth got in, we should really pay attention to what content is missing in updates"
Smash Fans: ...
Smash Fans: "I can't believe people think Geno's missing costume means anything lol"

 

[MonkeyDLenny]

So, something interesting happened: the gameplay for Cortex's stages in Crash Bandicoot 4 has been revealed

And in it, we see that Cortex's stage consists of making it to a point where he has set up a trap that Crash runs into in his own stage. And wouldn't you know it? This exact detail leaked nearly a year ago on Twitter, along with the entire basic premise of Crash 4

Spoiler

So, what does any of this have to do with Geno? It's the mere fact that this leak took nearly a year to come to pass (11 months technically, since the game launches in October) And hmmm, isn't there one certain thing that no one was able to definitively prove was fake or not and just kind of faded away and has been hanging in limbo?

My point is, I wouldn't rule Cacomallow out due to it's age, nor would I rule out the Mii Costume Guy list just because it's been awhile. Sometimes these things are a slow burn

Keep wishing on those stars

 

[Fatmanonice]

Just like us with your theories

That's it... You're excommunicated. You are literally Sean Connery at the end of the Wickerman at this point. Enjoy your next two hours of life.

 

[Deleted member]

Smash Fans: "Wow, seeing as how there was never a 3 Houses spirit event and Byleth got in, we should really pay attention to what content is missing in updates"
Smash Fans: ...
Smash Fans: "I can't believe people think Geno's missing costume means anything lol"

This pretty much. Yes, the costume could possibly come back, but the fact Geno’s costume has been missing the whole pass including Hero’s wave definitely means something. In fact, it’s been 6 waves and spirits don’t disconfirm as people were insisting. I can imagine Nintendo wanting to do more DLC back in E3 and decided to not bring back the costume if not bring it with playable Geno. Those people have to at least accept Geno is a huge possibility.

 

[Let Geno Smash]

So, something interesting happened: the gameplay for Cortex's stages in Crash Bandicoot 4 has been revealed

And in it, we see that Cortex's stage consists of making it to a point where he has set up a trap that Crash runs into in his own stage. And wouldn't you know it? This exact detail leaked nearly a year ago on Twitter, along with the entire basic premise of Crash 4

Spoiler

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So, what does any of this have to do with Geno? It's the mere fact that this leak took nearly a year to come to pass (11 months technically, since the game launches in October) And hmmm, isn't there one certain thing that no one was able to definitively prove was fake or not and just kind of faded away and has been hanging in limbo?

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My point is, I wouldn't rule Cacomallow out due to it's age, nor would I rule out the Mii Costume Guy list just because it's been awhile. Sometimes these things are a slow burn

Keep wishing on those stars

Good point, Fatmanonice always said "Don't stop believing a leak just for the time, sometimes can happen months or even years before we prove/dissprove something"
Btw: Cacomallow got leaked on November 4th

Smash Fans: "Wow, seeing as how there was never a 3 Houses spirit event and Byleth got in, we should really pay attention to what content is missing in updates"
Smash Fans: ...
Smash Fans: "I can't believe people think Geno's missing costume means anything lol"

Sometimes the people is too weird

 

[Deleted member]

Theory: Smithy is like General Grievous

In his boss fight he literally changes his own head, so we know he's capable of just making the heads himself. And, his eyes move independent of his body like they're true organic eyes and he's consciously looking around. He was once fully-organic and chose to put himself in a replaceable robot body to reign over an everlasting empire with killing machines he manufactures.

In SMRPG the final boss is having to deal with the truth that you just killed a living person.

I like this a lot.

 

[PestilenceSSB]

I have a question: how do you join the Geno discord? I tried doing it the other day and it wouldn't let me in. Is it because an invite is required or something?

edit: nvm I just joined Papageno's server

 

[skydogc]

Valentina and Dodo always cracked me up because for them to mistake Dodo for Mallow means the Nimbus Land are either really ****in' stupid or they just don't give a **** because they're that lax and carefree.

Valentina: "This morbidly obese toucan is your crown prince."

Nimbus Land: "That's bull**** but I believe it."

Nah man, it actually makes sense.
Mallow: I'm a tadpole!
Cloud race: Our Prince turned into 700 pound Toucan Sam while his not parent lady boss boobily tells him and everyone else what to do. seems legit.

The reality is, they've just got their heads so in the clouds that it never occurs that an obese bird with no weather powers isn't the final form of a cloud child.

 

[Enigma735]

Smash Fans: "Wow, seeing as how there was never a 3 Houses spirit event and Byleth got in, we should really pay attention to what content is missing in updates"
Smash Fans: ...
Smash Fans: "I can't believe people think Geno's missing costume means anything lol"

This. I can't stand when supporters of other characters are allowed to make some stretching theory about how their character has a chance of getting included, but as soon as us Geno supporters make a stretching theory, it suddenly isn't okay?

The Smash community is just filled with tons of hypocrites.

 

[Lord Woomy]

You know, something just dawned on me
Mario Maker 2, LM3 and Paper Mario ToK all have 2 things in common:
1. They're all Mario series games
2. They never got a spirit event in Smash Ultimate
Makes me think they're holding off Mario content in updates for some reason. I have no idea what this could mean but since Geno's a Mario character, it's relevant.

 

[Enigma735]

You know, something just dawned on me
Mario Maker 2, LM3 and Paper Mario ToK all have 2 things in common:
1. They're all Mario series games
2. They never got a spirit event in Smash Ultimate
Makes me think they're holding off Mario content in updates for some reason. I have no idea what this could mean but since Geno's a Mario character, it's relevant.

PACK IT UP BOYS!

UNDODOG IS COMING TO SMASH!1!1!1!

 

[YsDisciple]

If Nintendo decides to make another Sunday announcement, I really hope it's in the afternoon and not ****in' midnight like last week. Staying up only to find out that Nintendo decided to draw and quarter it's E3 presentation was one of the worst things about it.

If the announcement comes between either 10am up to say 7pm for a Direct either the following day, or two days later, the timing bodes well. Like the announcement from Monday's Direct Mini, I believe the timing of the announcement and broadcast was intentional as to not garner too much of an audience. Unfortunately the Nintendo brand would not allow that within the psyche of fans. Byleth's Mr. Sakurai Presents went through a similar timing as well. The presentation announcement came at the last minute, and said presentation was broadcasted early in the morning (certainly Sakurai foresaw that the reveal would experience some backlash from fans not too fond of the FE series).

On a different topic, the possibilities for the plot of a legitimate SMRPG sequel revolving around an invasion by Smithy's kin is interesting and discussion for it could be driven further. For example let's talk about Exor; the giant blade that descended upon Bowser's Castle and served as the link between Mario's world and Smithy's. What if the world/universe from which Smithy came, there are more giant weapon-like portals? Could said portals be specifically assigned to "general" or "king" (Smithy did wore a crown) class machines? For example, Exor could have been Smithy's portal structure which allowed him to bring his creations to the Mushroom Kingdom. Other machines of the same rank (general or king, or however they could name them) could have similar structures, and perhaps even representing different weapon types (i.e. an axe, a hammer, a spear, etc.).

 

[Lord Woomy]

This. I can't stand when supporters of other characters are allowed to make some stretching theory about how their character has a chance of getting included, but as soon as us Geno supporters make a stretching theory, it suddenly isn't okay?

The Smash community is just filled with tons of hypocrites.

Smash Fans: "These damn Geno fans and their stupid stretching theories. No one should believe anything without rock solid evidence."
Smash Fans: cough
Smash Fans: "DAE THINK OVERWATCH BAG=TRACER IS A LOCK????"

 

[cmbsfm]

So, something interesting happened: the gameplay for Cortex's stages in Crash Bandicoot 4 has been revealed

And in it, we see that Cortex's stage consists of making it to a point where he has set up a trap that Crash runs into in his own stage. And wouldn't you know it? This exact detail leaked nearly a year ago on Twitter, along with the entire basic premise of Crash 4

Spoiler

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So, what does any of this have to do with Geno? It's the mere fact that this leak took nearly a year to come to pass (11 months technically, since the game launches in October) And hmmm, isn't there one certain thing that no one was able to definitively prove was fake or not and just kind of faded away and has been hanging in limbo?

View attachment 279965

My point is, I wouldn't rule Cacomallow out due to it's age, nor would I rule out the Mii Costume Guy list just because it's been awhile. Sometimes these things are a slow burn

Keep wishing on those stars

The biggest mind**** would be Geno getting in and that EXACT same Mallow Hat shows up. Would put Doomguy in such a weird limbo.

 

[MisterMike]

So, something interesting happened: the gameplay for Cortex's stages in Crash Bandicoot 4 has been revealed

And in it, we see that Cortex's stage consists of making it to a point where he has set up a trap that Crash runs into in his own stage. And wouldn't you know it? This exact detail leaked nearly a year ago on Twitter, along with the entire basic premise of Crash 4

Spoiler

View attachment 279964

So, what does any of this have to do with Geno? It's the mere fact that this leak took nearly a year to come to pass (11 months technically, since the game launches in October) And hmmm, isn't there one certain thing that no one was able to definitively prove was fake or not and just kind of faded away and has been hanging in limbo?

View attachment 279965

My point is, I wouldn't rule Cacomallow out due to it's age, nor would I rule out the Mii Costume Guy list just because it's been awhile. Sometimes these things are a slow burn

Keep wishing on those stars

Agreed. Game development of all kinds is typically done well in advance of it's initial reveal, so acting as though something not appearing within a specific arbitrary timeframe is unwise, especially since The Coof has caused numerous delays for just about everything and anything gaming related. CacoMallow not showing up over a year and a half after it first appeared doesn't really matter if everything is getting delayed.

That's it... You're excommunicated. You are literally Sean Connery at the end of the Wickerman at this point. Enjoy your next two hours of life.

Don't you mean Nicholas Cage?

 

[Lord Woomy]

I have a question: how do you join the Geno discord? I tried doing it the other day and it wouldn't let me in. Is it because an invite is required or something?

edit: nvm I just joined Papageno's server

The invite link for Star Road is somewhere in the first post on the thread. We recently closed all invites, but they should be back up and running again now.
And, uh, fair word of warning, many users in PapaGeno's server don't take kindly to our puppet.

 

[Fatmanonice]

So, something interesting happened: the gameplay for Cortex's stages in Crash Bandicoot 4 has been revealed

And in it, we see that Cortex's stage consists of making it to a point where he has set up a trap that Crash runs into in his own stage. And wouldn't you know it? This exact detail leaked nearly a year ago on Twitter, along with the entire basic premise of Crash 4

Spoiler

View attachment 279964

So, what does any of this have to do with Geno? It's the mere fact that this leak took nearly a year to come to pass (11 months technically, since the game launches in October) And hmmm, isn't there one certain thing that no one was able to definitively prove was fake or not and just kind of faded away and has been hanging in limbo?

View attachment 279965

My point is, I wouldn't rule Cacomallow out due to it's age, nor would I rule out the Mii Costume Guy list just because it's been awhile. Sometimes these things are a slow burn

Keep wishing on those stars

Wow, it's as if video games are complicated multi-year projects and unless you're literally on the development team, your typical person isn't going to have set parameters for how far along a game is or when certain bits of information are actually going to be verified.

 

[Monokarhu]

Apparently the SNES game leak includes a prototype of Yoshi's Island (which is in such an early state that it's called "Super Mario Bros. 5" on the title screen).

A bunch of Nintendo prototypes are apparently currently being compiled from leaked source code right now as of this post
First up there's this Yoshi's Island proto with different UI graphics, placeholder music from Mario World, and has a prefix of 'Super Mario Bros. 5' pic.twitter.com/Qqock5RZaS

— AK (🦋 @akfamilyhome.com) (@Akfamilyhome) July 24, 2020

Hopefully there's some unused SMRPG stuff too.

 

[Lord Woomy]

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Wow, it's as if video games are complicated multi-year projects and unless you're literally on the development team, your typical person isn't going to have set parameters for how far along a game is or when certain bits of information are actually going to be verified.

WTF NO. I AM A GAME DESIGN EXPERT (not to toot my own horn, but I have watched 7 Youtube videos on the topic) AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT ANY PROJECT THAT TAKES LONGER THAN 72 HOURS IS IMMEDIATELY CANCELED.

 

[domriver]

In other news, the source code for SMRPG (along with a few other games) apparently just got leaked.

What is this exactly? For future e-shop?

 

[pinshadow]

No, it's yet another part of the massive leaks that released earlier this year and were originally obtained in 2018 I believe? This is everything supposedly dumped today.

Apparently there's some other weird prototype of Yoshi's Island named Super Donkey and who knows what the hell it is.

 

[Droodle]

So if Cacomallow is true then that means Geno is FP 7 (coming with Mallow) and Doomguy is FP 8 (coming with Cacodemon)? Or at the very least they are both fighters in the pass? Either way pretty exciting stuff, though I do wonder if Doomguy would hurt the chances of other "Western" characters like Crash, Master Chief, and Steve.

Honestly speaking I 100% believe that if Doomguy really is 8, then Master Chief ain't happening.

 

[Just a random scrub]

Apparently the SNES game leak includes a prototype of Yoshi's Island (which is in such an early state that it's called "Super Mario Bros. 5" on the title screen).

A bunch of Nintendo prototypes are apparently currently being compiled from leaked source code right now as of this post
First up there's this Yoshi's Island proto with different UI graphics, placeholder music from Mario World, and has a prefix of 'Super Mario Bros. 5' pic.twitter.com/Qqock5RZaS

— AK (🦋 @akfamilyhome.com) (@Akfamilyhome) July 24, 2020

Hopefully there's some unused SMRPG stuff too.

Super unlikely, but I wonder if we'll see some remants of Luigi. After all, he did appear with the rest of the party in one pre-release screenshot.

 

[pinshadow]

It doesn't SEEM like we got anything Mario RPG beta related? People have compiled the roms from the source code and from what I can tell they're the final releases. The rest of the stuff is up in the air though and based on the insane Yoshi's Island stuff people have already found I have a feeling we are going to see some crazy stuff.

 

[MisterMike]

It doesn't SEEM like we got anything Mario RPG beta related? People have compiled the roms from the source code and from what I can tell they're the final releases. The rest of the stuff is up in the air though and based on the insane Yoshi's Island stuff people have already found I have a feeling we are going to see some crazy stuff.

It's only been a few hours, mate. The good stuff isn't usually found until much later, when people are able to get a good look at what they've got.

 

[xpnc]

Apparently the SNES game leak includes a prototype of Yoshi's Island (which is in such an early state that it's called "Super Mario Bros. 5" on the title screen).

A bunch of Nintendo prototypes are apparently currently being compiled from leaked source code right now as of this post
First up there's this Yoshi's Island proto with different UI graphics, placeholder music from Mario World, and has a prefix of 'Super Mario Bros. 5' pic.twitter.com/Qqock5RZaS

— AK (🦋 @akfamilyhome.com) (@Akfamilyhome) July 24, 2020

Hopefully there's some unused SMRPG stuff too.

Calling it Super Mario Bros. 5 makes sense, actually. Super Mario World is prefixed with "Super Mario Bros. 4" in Japan, and given Yoshi's Island is called "Super Mario World 2," it's kind of like a "First Blood, Rambo: First Blood Part II, Rambo III" kind of deal

 

[pinshadow]

It's only been a few hours, mate. The good stuff isn't usually found until much later, when people are able to get a good look at what they've got.

I looked at the supposed compiled roms, they seem indentical, same size and everything, I was even able to load my Mario RPG saves onto it.

 

[domriver]

So if Cacomallow is true then that means Geno is FP 7 (coming with Mallow) and Doomguy is FP 8 (coming with Cacodemon)? Or at the very least they are both fighters in the pass? Either way pretty exciting stuff, though I do wonder if Doomguy would hurt the chances of other "Western" characters like Crash, Master Chief, and Steve.

Honestly speaking I 100% believe that if Doomguy really is 8, then Master Chief ain't happening.

im on board with this thought. Its either Master Chief or Doomguy period.