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I already assumed that Banjo was out because Steve is almost certainly in at this point, and I doubted that there would be two Microsoft reps. The best case scenario would be if, somehow, Steve was a sort of "gateway" character for them to get Banjo in, but realistically, Steve is going to sell more anyway, so that's not really an appropriate way of looking at it.
Ridley was a stage hazard, Dark Samus was an Assist Trophy, and Chrom was and still is part of Robin's Final Smash back in Smash 4, so not as many people probably voted for them during the Smash Ballot because of them already being in the game in that form. Daisy definitely got some votes through and so did all the cut veterans. Simon though didn't need the Ballot, he obviously got in for the same reasons Sonic, Snake, Megaman, Pac-Man, Ryu, and Cloud got in for which is being a legacy gaming icon.
I see that I’m not the only one who’s a fan of Takamaru, I was kinda bummed when he was an AT again because I thought with Mysterious Murasame Castle being released for the first time in the West for 3DS would help, but imo, the game should’ve been on the Wii U too back then and it might’ve sold more and I really hoped he would’ve been promoted from AT in this game like Little Mac was in the last game.
Well there's the upcoming release of DQXI on Switch, which would matter more to the Nintendo suits than a cult classic like Geno.
DQ 11 release date on Switch isn't looking anytime soon -- still didn't even get a date in the Enix presentation at this past E3. Whereas Geno is on the SNES classic, which outsold expectations and was rather recent. On top of people in NoA hearing his name float around.
Did you not read Fatmanonice's post?
That's true, but also remember that this might actually be part of the reason why Square would want to advertise Dragon Quest XI on the Switch, especially in the west. Dragon Quest needs more exposure here, or else it is always gonna flounder in this market despite the games having a lot of polish. However, I'm not sure there's much incentive for Nintendo, except to strengthen their relationship with Square Enix and advertise another Switch game I guess.
But once again, the problem with that logic is that Vergeben had knowledge of a Square Enix rep coming well before the tweet from Sakurai confirming the DLC picks were locked. Since the Square rep will be the first revealed, the only truly likely character they could get is Geno. Slime or any DQ protagonist and Sora would have a lot of legal hurdles to clear
I did not. What did he say?
That is what he said.
Doesn't that neglect Dragon Quest's iconic status? It's not like Cloud was included because of an upcoming Switch game.
dragon quest is only iconic in japan
Dragon Quest is popular in Japan yes, but doesn't have the worldwide recognition like Final Fantasy does, nor does it have a character who's immediately recognizable like Cloud is.
he specified pretty clearly that nintendo made a big list and he picked 5 from that list
Hard to say. A 14 year old game that was 12 when it was ported to the 3DS. That falls more in the timeline of being considered but still late if the initial project plan was late 2015. A Smash character based on a decently successful worldwide port would be kind of overkill but I'm also not the guy in charge of pulling the trigger on this sort of thing.
And even then, it was the PS2 version that was more successful. That, and the 3DS port didn't even get released in the West until 2 years after the ballot concluded.
According to what I've been told the rights to Dragon Quest are divvied up between Square Enix, Armor Project, Akira Toriyama, and Koichi Sugiyama.
What's more suspicious is that he hasn't heard of any first-party characters and he says that (in his personal opinion) spirits disconfirm characters. I think he's wrong. Most likely there are over a thousand spirits, almost every first-party character conceivable is probably a spirit. If the game comes out and there are spirits for Geno and Bandana Dee and Elma and every other first-party character, I don't think it means anything.
He never heard about King K Rool, either. I believe before the 8/8 direct he said "I have heard no evidence of King K Rool, but I'm hoping he's in." He doesn't ever hear all the information, just some of it. (assuming he's not just lying this whole time and has been really good at guessing)
It's understandable. While I won't go into detail about where I get my info, what I can say is that they are tied to NoA, and they themselves have heard nothing except for an Enix rep (Geno, in this case).
Care to link me to him ever saying he thinks spirits are deconfirmations? He implied Geno is one of the names he has heard, and I obsessively stalk all of his gamefaqs/reddit posts. Perhaps I missed something, but I don't recall him saying anything along those lines.
Is there evidence Hitagi actually said these things
That leads to an even better point towards Geno: he's actually requested quite a lot in all regions. Even in Japanese polls where he's not in the top 10 or 20, he has been credited. I'll have to dig around again to find them, but the fact he's also so requested in Japan alongside being one of the top 10 in the US makes him all around best for Nintendo's sales.
