Geno (♥♪!?): Return of the Starsend Savior

[OptimisticStrifer]

I honestly think the next Smash game should be a younger developer who's a fan of Sakurai's work.

 

[StarLight42]

Why is everyone saying Geno was deconfirmed? What happened?

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Why is everyone saying Geno was deconfirmed? What happened?

He hasn't.

Sakurai said Nintendo chose the DLC, not him

And people don't have as much faith in Nintendo's choices

 

[PolarPanda]

Why is everyone saying Geno was deconfirmed? What happened?

I actually feel like this helps Geno, but I'll elaborate. Sakurai tweeted saying Nintendo choose the DLC, and Sakurai picked which on the list Nintendo made, to implement. Some see this as 'Nintendo would never pick Geno', or 'Geno wouldn't make enough money!'

Personally, I see it as a positive, because it seems like Nintendo is aware of Geno's popularity and SMRPG's success.

 

[StarLight42]

Really don't know what you guys should take away from this.

I see some people saying third party chances just went way down and others saying that third party chances went way up.

 

[Klimax]

Additionally, SMRPG was on SNES classic, and Nintendo tweeted out an anniversary post for SMRPG in May of this year.
All of this said, this nearly confirms Nintendo is at least somewhat aware of our desire for Geno.

This ! It was just a tweet but I also believe that it was a huge deal. We're not in a situation where Sakurai is the only guy who cares about Geno and Nintendo don't know who he is. They know him and the tweet is a good proof of that. And we're in the era of social medias, they probaly heard people saying how bad they want Geno.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Really don't know what you guys should take away from this.

I see some people saying third party chances just went way down and others saying that third party chances went way up.

Who knows what it means

People suspect Nintendo would most likely only choose "Shill Characters"

But Who knows

 

[coolcat12347]

You guys realize this means Sora's even less likely, right?
So, one less competition down.

 

[TBone06]

You guys realize this means Sora's even less likely, right?
So, one less competition down.

Yeah, Nintendo would have no reason to add Sora unless Kingdom Hearts 3 was going to be released on the Switch. Also, Nintendo clearly knows how demanded Geno is. Comparing Geno and a DQ character, it's a no brainer who the fans would rather have (as a whole).

But realistically, this doesn't change too much. We still know just as little as we did before.

 

[Sigran101]

I'm not sure what to think about Geno now. On one hand, although I've always thought he and Sora could both be in, this tweet is a huge hit against Sora at the game awards. If they just finalized the roster they definitely won't have a trailer ready in a month. On the other hand, I doubt Nintendo would have any reason to make Sakurai add Geno. Overall I think this is bad news for us.

 

[paper roxy]

OK, i've thought about this very thoroughly. As you know -- my friend who is a Nintendo ambassador told me about a week ago there are rumors within NoA of Geno being the Enix DLC. Within NINTENDO.

This may actually be GREAT for Geno. Additionally, SMRPG was on SNES classic, and Nintendo tweeted out an anniversary post for SMRPG in May of this year.
All of this said, this nearly confirms Nintendo is at least somewhat aware of our desire for Geno. Not to mention, Switch-era Nintendo has been somewhat in-touch with fans. The online service was controversial, yes, but they've mostly made smart decisions. It would not surprise me if they thoroughly sorted through polls, the ballots, etc.

If Nintendo knows we want Geno, this is GOOD. They know it would make money.

Oh, something for thought, the Newest Nintendo President of Nintendo basically came into power at the end of 2015, who also put into motion all this change, from the theme park, illumination movie, mobile and indie support.

And then they met with Square.

proceeds to get back on my geno hype train

 

[AugustusB]

I posted this in the General Thread and I should say it here. If you read his text carefully, It is more along the lines that Sakurai was given a list of fighters to pick from what Nintendo put together. Yes it is still Nintendo choosing what Sakurai HAD to pick from.

Our boy may be in a tight spot, but I think he is still sitting pretty gang.

 

[PolarPanda]

I'm not sure what to think about Geno now. On one hand, although I've always thought he and Sora could both be in, this tweet is a huge hit against Sora at the game awards. If they just finalized the roster they definitely won't have a trailer ready in a month. On the other hand, I doubt Nintendo would have any reason to make Sakurai add Geno. Overall I think this is bad news for us.

Personally, this adds to Geno quite a bit, for me.

>Me hearing from a brand ambassador that there are rumblings within NoA that Geno is DLC
>Nintendo tweeting about the SMRG 22nd anniversary months ago
>SMRPG being on the SNES mini

Not to mention, Switch-era Nintendo has been RELATIVELY in touch. All this put together tells me they probably know how much we want Geno, and how much we'd pay.

 

[ctt4lfecw]

If Captain Toad or Waluigi make it I'll be happy for their fans. I just don't have much confidence in Nintendo's picking the characters.

 

[TBone06]

Personally, this adds to Geno quite a bit, for me.

>Me hearing from a brand ambassador that there are rumblings within NoA that Geno is DLC
>Nintendo tweeting about the SMRG 22nd anniversary months ago
>SMRPG being on the SNES mini

Not to mention, Switch-era Nintendo has been RELATIVELY in touch. All this put together tells me they probably know how much we want Geno, and how much we'd pay.

It's honestly nice seeing someone bring positivity when everyone is running around like a chicken with their heads cut off.

This is true. If what Verge is hearing is true and if this rumour is true, then those two things kind of align. Again, it's just rumours, but it's not game over for us. We have to remember that.

 

[Mellowy Yellow]

Personally, this adds to Geno quite a bit, for me.

>Me hearing from a brand ambassador that there are rumblings within NoA that Geno is DLC
>Nintendo tweeting about the SMRG 22nd anniversary months ago
>SMRPG being on the SNES mini

Not to mention, Switch-era Nintendo has been RELATIVELY in touch. All this put together tells me they probably know how much we want Geno, and how much we'd pay.

Thank you so much for your updates man, it gives me a glitter of hope for our boy.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

I dont lose anything supporting Geno even if he doesnt get in, lol

So im still hoping for him

 

[skydogc]

I'm still believing we're gonna be DLC, so the next project after that is finding a way to let Nintendo know (even more) that we want a true Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars sequel.

You know, aside from buying Geno in copious amounts haha

 

[Mellowy Yellow]

I just hope Nintendo realizes how much pain he's suffering just sitting there ;-;

 

[ctt4lfecw]

I just hope Nintendo realizes how much pain he's suffering just sitting there ;-;

Ugh

 

[TheCJBrine]

"I decide if we can create a fighter based on their selection"

It sounds like Nintendo decided on a pool of characters for Sakurai to choose from; hopefully Geno was among them.

 

[Sigran101]

I just hope Nintendo realizes how much pain he's suffering just sitting there ;-;

This is hands down the best thing I've ever seen on smash boards! It's so sad but so adorable and funny at the same time! Where did you find that picture? Did you make it yourself?

 

[TBone06]

I just hope Nintendo realizes how much pain he's suffering just sitting there ;-;

This pains me so much. It's so well done though.

 

[Mellowy Yellow]

This is hands down the best thing I've ever seen on smash boards! It's so sad but so adorable and funny at the same time! Where did you find that picture? Did you make it yourself?

Found it on a 4chan board and it got me really sad when i saw it

 

[owjies]

I wonder why Sakurai said that DLC was chosen too long ago for Rex but that the list was just completed? Perhaps we misread his initial statement and he just meant the base roster. Or, perhaps there was a sudden change in plans for one of the picks to be released later in the year. It's intriguing all around.

Not really sure if it affects Geno positively or negatively, although I initially read it as, "Temper your expectations." That special edition NES Classic with Dragon Ball and Dragon Quest that released in July could bolster Dragon Quest's chances now I suppose.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Look at Developer and Publisher

Probably means nothing but funky

 

[Sigran101]

I wonder why Sakurai said that DLC was chosen too long ago for Rex but that the list was just completed? Perhaps we misread his initial statement and he just meant the base roster. Or, perhaps there was a sudden change in plans for one of the picks to be released later in the year. It's intriguing all around.

Not really sure if it affects Geno positively or negatively, although I initially read it as, "Temper your expectations." That special edition NES Classic with Dragon Ball and Dragon Quest that released in July could bolster Dragon Quest's chances now I suppose.

I'm not sure why this was ever a thing to begin with. Sakurai never mentioned dlc with regard to the Rex costume. Rex could easily still end up as a dlc character. Sakurai only ever gave that as an explanation for why he wasn't on the base roster. Regardless, at this point I think this boosts Geno's chances because of Mario RPG on the SNES mini..

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

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Look at Developer and Publisher

Probably means nothing but funky

Rare isn't listed for DKC however

So don't think it means anything

 

[GenoFlash]

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Look at Developer and Publisher

Probably means nothing but funky

Oh huh. Square should definitely still be the developer of the game. That's weird.

This the SNES Classic?

 

[paper roxy]

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Rare isn't listed for DKC however

So don't think it means anything

yea but rare is a whole different situation entirely

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

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Rare isn't listed for DKC however

So don't think it means anything

This kills it, lol

 

[owjies]

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Rare isn't listed for DKC however

So don't think it means anything

The Wii U Virtual Console page still says Square Enix as the developer: Source

 

[TheCJBrine]

"Castlevania Developer: Nintendo"

Dang Nintendo's taking credit for everything, gosh.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Simon Nintendo character confirmed, lol

 

[Kooj Kooj]

I had an interesting thought earlier...

Looking at the reveals leading up to Ultimate's release, the non-DLC characters being added had a pattern. Inklings, Ridley, and Daisy. A big new IP with 2 of the largest fan requests all in one swoop. It went from there to the 5 in August, King K. Rool, Chrom, and Dark Samus, and the Smash "revival" IP, Castlevania with the Belmonts. Then, towards the end, the big heavy hitters for casual players, Isabelle and Incineroar, with Ken as a final echo slot.

Now from a business standpoint this makes a lot of sense. Initiating the fan picks first gets people excited and talking about the game, spreading the news and showing off what's there and talking about what might come. Saving the more casual gamer/children fan picks for last means they won't have time to forget about the game before it releases. That's what sells Nintendo the most copies of the game-- essentially, getting the hardcore fans interested and talking early, and then making a push towards the end with more casual stuff to sell tons of copies all at once.

Here's the thing... What if DLC character reveals follow that same structure? Looking at what Vergeben is saying, for example, a Square Enix character, a Minecraft character, +3 others. I think this can follow the exact same pattern of reveals as the pre-release information:

1st reveal: Geno, the long time fan favourite
2nd-4th reveal: another fan choice like Banjo Kazooie perhaps, + 2 more, newer IP's (Maybe Elma from Chronicles X or Bandana Dee)
5th reveal: Steve from Minecraft, to appeal to a wider mass of gamers.

Of course this isn't to say there's any -real- evidence for this, it's purely a guess... But boy is it nice that the pieces of the puzzle fit together like that.

 

[paper roxy]

i still think its fishy that square let nintendo put mario rpg as their own game on there

 

[StarLight42]

I'll give you Geno fans one thing to cling onto. If Nintendo throws us a bone and includes one super fan favorite character on that selection list, they AT THE VERY LEAST have acknowledged Geno's existance this year.

https://twitter.com/nintendoamerica/status/995680065206784000?lang=en

Not sure if there was a similar tweet from the JP Nintendo twitter, but if so, this is the first time Geno has been acknowledged...in... A LONG ASS TIME lol. I don't think Nintendo even cared to say anything about Super Mario RPG on it's TWENTIETH anniversary but yet for some reason celebrated it's twenty second anniversary.

Take it with a grain of salt, please.

 

[MattX20]

I'm still confident in Geno's chances regardless of Sakurai's comments. Rex and Pyra/Mythra and Springman were outright deconfirmed during the last direct, so it's very unlikely there will be shill characters like that this time

 

[GenoFlash]

I'm still confident in Geno's chances regardless of Sakurai's comments. Rex and Pyra/Mythra and Springman were outright deconfirmed during the last direct, so it's very unlikely there will be shill characters like that this time

Off the top of my head there's Bandanna Dee, Edelgard from FE: Three Houses, a Gen VIII Pokemon, and Bold Luminary from Dragon Quest XI getting picked over Geno due to that game coming to Switch.

Rex and Spring Man getting kicked to the chopping block is really weird though.

 

[skydogc]

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This kills it, lol

This reminds me when every parent thought every video game thing was a Nintendo haha