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Hate how Nintendo decides to silence all the leakers just around the time they decided they don't want to announce anything anymore.
 

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Hate how Nintendo decides to silence all the leakers just around the time they decided they don't want to announce anything anymore.
Yeah like I get it if it was just before E3; we know a direct is coming then, but this? This is getting ridiculous. If we don't get an announcement tomorrow/Wednesday, a lot of my hope goes down the toilet, but I'll still be a bit hopeful for next week.
 

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Bro, don't say it so loudly! The waiters will come to our table and sing an annoying song
Yeah like I get it if it was just before E3; we know a direct is coming then, but this? This is getting ridiculous. If we don't get an announcement tomorrow/Wednesday, a lot of my hope goes down the toilet, but I'll still be a bit hopeful for next week.
Nintendo: "Ok, we're tightening up on leaks so that it won't spoil our official announcements"
Fans: "Ok, so that means you'll make announcements soon right???"
Nintendo: read 1/27/20
 

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So, what will you all do if Nintendo doesn't announce a Direct tomorrow or the day after? I would say something is possibly wrong over at Nintendo.
Being more convinced that they are delaying it for either Corona or Animal Crossing and its nothing wrong with either tbh. Especially if it is for the former.
 

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All they're doing is making 900000 posts about animal crossing
and other stuff, and even announcing other things. Like what the hecccccc

Nintendo: "Ok, we're tightening up on leaks so that it won't spoil our official announcements"
Fans: "Ok, so that means you'll make announcements soon right???"
Nintendo: read 1/27/20
If they were smart, they'd let them leak harder so it looks more fake. Going after people who get things right *before* announcing them tends to give more credibility since they don't go after fake leakers.

So, what will you all do if Nintendo doesn't announce a Direct tomorrow or the day after? I would say something is possibly wrong over at Nintendo.
Or they're just being Nintendo as usual.

It's probably a little bit like this...
Except without the fire. It's literally just another normal day they're choosing to withhold information.

Being more convinced that they are delaying it for either Corona or Animal Crossing and its nothing wrong with either tbh. Especially if it is for the former.
They've had so many chances to let us know about the former, and the latter would just be stupid to hold it for. You know what that would do? Create anti-fans of AC. Despite loving AC, I'd actually be a bit sour towards it if it was truly what was causing this massive delay for the direct.

I still do not get the argument that the direct will pull from AC in any way. Releasing the direct *AFTER* it comes out would be worse IMO. Releasing it before? Who cares, it's likely unrelated to AC anyway and it's not like anything else is coming out any-****ing-time soon.
 
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Well, at least the Fantastic Four DLC for Ultimate Alliance 3 releases this month...

...So at least I have that to kill time until the Direct?
 

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Happy birfday Super Mario RPG and Geno and Mallow and Boshi and Croco and the Axem Rangers and Smithy and Exor and Mack and Bowyer and Yardovich and Jonathan Jones and Punchinello and Booster and Boomer and the Lazy Shell but not happy birfday to the Chained Kongs cause they’re still in prison
 

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Hate how Nintendo decides to silence all the leakers just around the time they decided they don't want to announce anything anymore.
This. This right here is one of the reasons I truly believe in Fatmanonice Fatmanonice 's sources in saying that Nintendo plans to revive several dead franchises and start the decade off with a bang. They don't want anyone else to spoil the beans so they are trying to put it all in lock down right now.
 
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Icewolff92

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They've had so many chances to let us know about the former, and the latter would just be stupid to hold it for. You know what that would do? Create anti-fans of AC. Despite loving AC, I'd actually be a bit sour towards it if it was truly what was causing this massive delay for the direct.
Before SMT Tokyo Mirage released, they pretty much only focused on that game. What are they doing now? Pretty much only focusing on Animal Crossing.
So yes... there is a high chance that they are waiting because of Animal Crossing. And truth be told, people would complain if they said that it was coronavirus anyway (calling it a bs excuse, etc) so there would be no point to say that if coronavirus is the cause

I love you and all... but nintendo isnt obligated to tell us jack ****
Pretty much this
 
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I love you and all... but nintendo isnt obligated to tell us jack ****
I’m gonna have to agree with this. I think there’s a few comments in the past 1000 posts or so that come off a bit entitled. While it would be SMART of Nintendo to feed a steady stream of news, they are certainly not obligated to do so.
 

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I love you and all... but nintendo isnt obligated to tell us jack ****
Yes, that is true. Still, there has to be a reason why Nintendo is taking so long to announce a Direct, and Nintendo practically does not need to keep us waiting or have a reason to as much as they aren't obligated to tell us anything.

I mean, I am not desperate for the Direct, and I can wait longer, but I can say that people have their limits, and since they don't have many first party things announced or known right now other than things like Animal Crossing: New Horizons, I don't think it would be a good idea to keep things secret until, say, April or even E3. Just saying.
 

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I love you and all... but nintendo isnt obligated to tell us jack ****
Of course not, but it's bad business to keep your consumers in this dark this long. We usually know about *some* of next year's releases by the previous year's Q3/Q4 direct, but we don't know jack right now. They also have been selling FP2 for over a month now with no news or anything.

Before SMT Tokyo Mirage released, they pretty much only focused on that game. What are they doing now? Pretty much only focusing on Animal Crossing.
So yes... there is a high chance that they are waiting because of Animal Crossing.
Except they've already dropped directs ahead of big releases. They can also push one final advertisement for AC in the direct.

And truth be told, people would complain if they said that it was coronavirus anyway (calling it a bs excuse, etc) so there would be no point to say that if coronavirus is the cause
BREAKING NEWS: UNLIKEABLE DOUCHEBAGS EXIST. Majority of normal-functioning people would be like "we totally get it" and it would take the sting off *the* longest drought to date.

I think there’s a few comments in the past 1000 posts or so that come off a bit entitled. While it would be SMART of Nintendo to feed a steady stream of news, they are certainly not obligated to do so.
By no means am I trying to be entitled, I'm just wondering what is happening and why it's still happening, and I don't buy that it's the coronavirus. That said, there's a very high probability that the initial date for the direct was canceled, as evidenced by Byleth's super-obvious reveal that made no sense to do in the context of a "THIS IS DEFINITELY SMASH-RELATED". The reveal *reeked* of being in a direct, yet we still don't have one.

The only thing I can think of is they they had to edit a lot of the direct or something, to fix the new date that it falls on, maybe also pulling some things that were already dropped, and adding in new things they might have held off for til E3.

I mean, I am not desperate for the Direct, and I can wait longer, but I can say that people have their limits, and since they don't have many first party things announced or known right now other than things like Animal Crossing: New Horizons, I don't think it would be a good idea to keep things secret until, say, April or even E3. Just saying.
I mean it makes people worry that you don't have much to show off, so you're just waiting for E3. If there actually isn't any direct til E3, then they're admitting to 100% folding on the first half of the year outside of AC. Also don't forget that originally, AC wasn't intended to even be a 2020 release, so if it released on time, we'd have *literally nothing* (but DLC) for Q1.
 
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for those that have been around for a long time - has a Nintendo lineup ever been this empty during the Wii U, Wii, or 3DS days? I don’t think I can remember there ever being so little confirmed. The only game that has a confirmed release date is Animal Crossing...which comes out in 11 days. We have literally no idea on any other big releases.

we know XB2, BOTW2, MP3, and Bayonetta 3 are in the works, but we don’t even have vague release windows.

Maybe there really is something going on with Nintendo...
 
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for those that have been around for a long time - has a Nintendo lineup ever been this empty during the Wii U, Wii, or 3DS days? I don’t think I can remember there ever being so little confirmed. The only game that has a confirmed release date is Animal Crossing...which comes out in 11 days. We have literally no idea on any other big releases.

we know XB2, BOTW2, MP3, and Bayonetta 3 are in the works, but we don’t even have vague release windows.

Maybe there really is something going on with Nintendo...
I personally found 2015 really lacking for Wii U games.
 

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for those that have been around for a long time - has a Nintendo lineup ever been this empty during the Wii U, Wii, or 3DS days? I don’t think I can remember there ever being so little confirmed. The only game that has a confirmed release date is Animal Crossing...which comes out in 11 days. We have literally no idea on any other big releases.

we know XB2, BOTW2, MP3, and Bayonetta 3 are in the works, but we don’t even have vague release windows.

Maybe there really is something going on with Nintendo...
This is why I'm so concerned because they might actually be folding on the first half (again, besides AC, which also again, wasn't *intended* to be a 2020 game) if we don't get a direct soon. But they're not even saying anything is wrong, so what other conclusions can we come to besides "Nintendo being Nintendo"? I also can't answer about Wii/U days because I didn't really start following directs til the Switch. That said though, Wii U was just *always* lacking, lol. Wasn't the Wii U the only console to not get a major Mario and/or Zelda title (let alone NEITHER of them)? Edit: Totally forgot about SM3DW, lol. That's how forgettable the console was. Nintendo Land was easily the highlight of that console for me, and they just left the whole thing to rot.

Also just to slightly correct some stuff: XB1: Definitive Edition, and MP4. XB2 and MP3 are already out.
 
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This is why I'm so concerned because they might actually be folding on the first half (again, besides AC, which also again, wasn't *intended* to be a 2020 game) if we don't get a direct soon. But they're not even saying anything is wrong, so what other conclusions can we come to besides "Nintendo being Nintendo"? I also can't answer about Wii/U days because I didn't really start following directs til the Switch. That said though, Wii U was just *always* lacking, lol. Wasn't the Wii U the only console to not get a major Mario and/or Zelda title (let alone NEITHER of them)?

Also just to slightly correct some stuff: XB1: Definitive Edition, and MP4. XB2 and MP3 are already out.
oh Jeeze, what a brain fart, sorry!

I’m in the middle of seriously trying to finish XB2 right now (45 hours in and still no end in sight), but it’s on my mind.
 

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So yeah, tomorrow/Wednesday most likely to drop a direct announcement, but I'm still holding out til the 18th for an announcement. "PLAY AC TONIGHT WITH A PRE-PURCHASE!" in a direct on the 19th. I could see it happening and I still don't believe other games would pull from AC, especially not on Day 0. If AC comes out, IMO the chances drop significantly for March, but like, why the heck make a thing out of the physical FP2 if it's still just as useless as the digital version?

Honestly, what notable Wii U game came out that year besides Mario Maker? I don't remember anything else major from that year on Nintendo's catalog.
Nintendo Land was honestly loads of fun with F&F. Easily my favorite game on the system and it was basically a premium "Wii Sports" on the console. That said, I played more Wii games than Wii U games on it (most notably Fortune Street and Dokapon Kingdom), so that alone should speak volumes of it. Sm4sh I played to an extent, but Brawl being the black sheep that ruined a lot of my interest (especially after SSE), I just didn't really care for 4. Until Ultimate came out I was very disinterested (though I was crazy into 64/Melee prior).

TL;DR: Wii U was bad. Nintendo also knew this, which is why they got the Switch to us probably faster than expected (which is why it's a touch weaker than it probably should be), and they made a damn amazing console following their failure, so I'm not too mad about it.
 
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Honestly, what notable Wii U game came out that year besides Mario Maker? I don't remember anything else major from that year on Nintendo's catalog.
I only remember Mario Tennis Ultra Smash and Amiibo Festival...

...Yeah, that year went that bad.
 

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I'll like to inform you guys on what has been happening.
Earlier today, NateDrake made a post completely ruining his past statements


Being, admittedly confused, I was annoyed, why the **** would he flat out say "Early March", then deny a direct happening, in, Early March?
Backtracking is now a issue and I do not feel like the virus is ""delaying"" any direct, but I believe it could have Nintendo freaking out about it a little bit.

But
Jon over on Gamexplain said this.

I have no ****ing clue on what it could mean, but normally when Jon says something about a insider, it normally means, they're wrong about that thing, much like Zippo.
Without proper context, we can't even make a proper assumption, but all I can currently say is that, there is hope.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/ni...6-ot7-has-been-rated-in-korea.170751/page-280
 
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Splatoon and XCX!
Splatoon came out in 2014 while Xenoblade X did in fact come out in 2015.

I'll like to inform you guys on what has been happening.
Earlier today, NateDrake made a post completely ruining his past statements


Being, admittedly confused, I was annoyed, why the **** would he flat out say "Early March", then deny a direct happening, in, Early March?
Backtracking is now a issue and I do not feel like the virus is ""delaying"" any direct, but I believe it could have Nintendo freaking out about it a little bit.

But
Jon over on Gamexplain said this.

I have no ****ing clue on what it could mean, but normally when Jon says something about a insider, it normally means, they're wrong about that thing, much like Zippo.
Without proper context, we can't even make a proper assumption, but all I can currently say is that, there is hope.
Boost? Geno Boost! Geno is confirmed guys pack your bags we won! :ultpacman:
 
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The 3DS totally dominated that era of Nintendo. I was way more invested in the 3DS than the Wii U at the time.
I feel like I was the only one who didn't care too much for the 3DS after being burned hard by Sticker Star and the ambassador thing. I bought a 3DS on day 1 purely because of Sticker Star, them showing off that it was actually gonna be a proper PM after SPM (I've said it before but SPM is a bad *Paper Mario* game, but a relatively good game if you get past that). Then it got delayed a lot and eventually turned out to be one of the worst 1st party games I've played in a loooooong time.

I probably played New Leaf more than anything else on the 3DS. That and deciding to become an Eevee Breeder in X&Y after getting a 4 perfect-IV Eevee out of nowhere (and no, I don't play Pokemon competitively by any means, I just really enjoyed breeding 5-6 IV Eevees for some reason). The 3DS was a huge miss for me, same with the original DS. I loved the GBA a hell of a lot more than both.

Earlier today, NateDrake made a post completely ruining his past statements
Oh good. That's how you shoot your own credibility in the foot. I never thought we'd actually be realizing that AC could be coming out before getting the direct back in Feb.

Jon over on Gamexplain said this.
What exactly is he saying? I don't understand what he meant by "a boost".
 

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TL;DR: Wii U was bad. Nintendo also knew this, which is why they got the Switch to us probably faster than expected (which is why it's a touch weaker than it probably should be), and they made a damn amazing console following their failure, so I'm not too mad about it.
I feel people grossly underestimate how amazing the Wii U's game library was. It really got crapped on a lot more than it deserved. I think the main bullet to the head for the Wii U was:

A) HORRIBLE NAME. So many uninformed parents heard the name and just assumed that it was a tacky add-on or peripheral for the original Wii. There's a good damn reason why Playstation sticks with the simple numbering pattern (2, 3, 4, 5, etc.). 3 is better than 2 just like how 4 is better than 3. Simple, stupid and straight forward. Wii U was almost as bad as the legendarily idiotic "New NEW 3DS". No joke. They actually called the last iteration of the 3DS this to ensure that the maximum number of people would fail to understand what it offered. Seriously, Nintendo's PR team needs to be flogged repeatedly.

B) HUGE drought of games for the first two years of the console's life. To this day I can't believe how little Nintendo had coming down the pipe when they released the console (not to mention the laughable amount of false advertising behind the Wii Pad's capabilities/utilization. Speaking of which...)

C) Terrible utilization of hardware. Don't get me wrong, the Wii pad had a lot of cool ideas to it (that other consoles ripped off by simply applying tablets and other generic smart devices) but when you consider all the games ever released for the system, the applications were clunky at best and downright unplayable at worst. Instead of designing the pad's motion controls to complement the various games, they designed the games AROUND the pad itself. In their attempts to give their gimmick relevance, they just killed the function of several games in the process. Granted, I typically applaud Nintendo's attempts to experiment with new innovations, but the Wii U gamepad was a perfect example of an ill-conceived gimmick.
 

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I'll like to inform you guys on what has been happening.
Earlier today, NateDrake made a post completely ruining his past statements

-snip-

Being, admittedly confused, I was annoyed, why the **** would he flat out say "Early March", then deny a direct happening, in, Early March?
Backtracking is now a issue and I do not feel like the virus is ""delaying"" any direct, but I believe it could have Nintendo freaking out about it a little bit.

But -snip- Jon over on Gamexplain said this.

I have no ****ing clue on what it could mean, but normally when Jon says something about a insider, it normally means, they're wrong about that thing, much like Zippo.
Without proper context, we can't even make a proper assumption, but all I can currently say is that, there is hope.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/ni...6-ot7-has-been-rated-in-korea.170751/page-280
Why did we believe NateDrake only for him to say this? He did say early March, and I would not call next week early March at all. What's with this guy?
 
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I feel like I was the only one who didn't care too much for the 3DS after being burned hard by Sticker
Oh good. That's how you shoot your own credibility in the foot. I never thought we'd actually be realizing that AC could be coming out before getting the direct back in Feb.



What exactly is he saying? I don't understand what he meant by "a boost".

Yeah, but that's my fear a bit, if we know nothing before Animal Crossing, it could spell trouble to Nintendo, and their stocks are, dropping, bad, due to the virus, so, I feel like they need to say something soon.

I have no idea on what he means, we can not make proper assumptions, it's such a odd message to say to somebody like that
 
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Paraspikey Paraspikey : You quoted your whole post so I can't quote, rip.

I'm reading it like he's disagreeing with Nate, but that just might be my own personal bias.
 

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I'll like to inform you guys on what has been happening.
Earlier today, NateDrake made a post completely ruining his past statements


Being, admittedly confused, I was annoyed, why the **** would he flat out say "Early March", then deny a direct happening, in, Early March?
Backtracking is now a issue and I do not feel like the virus is ""delaying"" any direct, but I believe it could have Nintendo freaking out about it a little bit.

But
Jon over on Gamexplain said this.

I have no ****ing clue on what it could mean, but normally when Jon says something about a insider, it normally means, they're wrong about that thing, much like Zippo.
Without proper context, we can't even make a proper assumption, but all I can currently say is that, there is hope.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/ni...6-ot7-has-been-rated-in-korea.170751/page-280
Wonder what he meant by a "boost". Boost for what?
 

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Happy 24° to SMRPG & Geno! Hope to his reveal as #76 or #77 sooner than later. Anyway, he is coming to Smash after more than 2 decades and I highly doubt the wait is longer than June. It’s March or June for GENO, not beyond.

Can’t wait to play as Geno since my first time: 1996. That reveal will break the internet. His design, moveset, sounds and music will be art. His reveal will be a masterpiece. Imagine him among his old friends Mario, Bowser, Peach & Mallow (in some form: Assist, part of the Final Smash, Premium Costume to recreate the full roster or who knows, maybe as a Tag Team partner). He would even have timed hits mechanics, he will be so unique in every aspect. A historic bond between Square and Nintendo, a long fan pick (probably the biggest right now), a very beautiful non-human design and so much fun to play. With all of these Back to Basics stuff and cross-over in Smash, putting Geno will be the last piece of the cake for me. I’m 100% done in Smash, speculation and wishes after him.

The game is already perfect but give me Geno and I’m done.

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Also, they can mix his CGI trailer in so many ways. Following the Rosalina trailer, adding Kirby, Mario, Peach, Bowser. A forest with Bowyer shooting arrows from the sky, the scene when Geno comes to life in Gaz’s house, and finishing the trailer with these guys standing next to each other: On the left the MarioRPG gang; Geno in the middle; and on the right side Cloud and the 4 Heroes.

Hope he comes with more than 2 songs (and also more to FF) but if he is coming with only 2, I don’t complain as long as we have him.
 
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