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You can keep hope without having your heart broken. Just don't let yourself believe that anything is a guarantee. A defeatist attitude only makes speculation worse. Case in point: Wynn
People have mainly guessed Balloon Fighter or Lolo but, honestly, it could just be a character that Iwata really wanted to see in Smash and Sakurai would be willing to move heaven and Earth to make it happen. It could be something so outrageously obscure or seemingly impossible that none of us could ever guess it but, again, it's a rumor but I entertain it because Sakurai getting to "100" with his best friend's literal ultimate Smash request would almost be too perfect for words. It could be something goofy as hell like Bubbles and I would probably choke up immediately upon the reveal knowing it was one of Iwata's dying wishes.
You sly fox
I dont know, man. Seems much easier just to assume they are not coming so if they do, Ill be plesently surprised and when they dont, I wont be sad and can just shrug and say "I knew it"
I don't know about you but having at least one more curveball down the line in this game would be greatly satisfing to me especially if it's a retro character no one saw coming. I want to be surprise for at least one more of the reveals for this game.
So one scenario is we get the six S2 fighters plus a special tribute fighter, or six fighters where one has an alt (eg: Crash and Coco).
Only a little. My confidence doesn't come from exact info but because of the simple fact I've been swimming in the septic tank of insider rumors for over a year for the sake of this fanbase and been bringing to the surface bits of gold. Despite the stress and the fact that legions of people unironically hate me for my theorycrafting and walking a weirdly ambiguous line between insider and speculator, I'd ****in' do it again. If I'm wrong about everyone but Geno, it will still have been worth it. You all are worth it and if I get BTFO in all my predictions, I'm more than happy to accept the mantle of Village Idiot ™ because, again, as a fanbase, we've stuck with this longer than reason and logic would suggest and that's a great testament all onto itself.
I can't stand that attitude, personally. I'm not so afraid of disappointment that I won't openly hope for an outcome I desire.
im sorry you dont like that but, why would I ever have hope for something I know probably will never happen? My two most wanted are Layton and Sora. Layton has nothing, so spirit, no costume and really no hints going for him and Im going to assume he isnt going to be a fighter either and Sora, everyone and their mom says Disney is in the way so I guess hes out. Ammy and Pheonix would be cool too but i dont think they are coming either
Nintendo of Japan has no real reason to be against any additional Mario characters and Geno's directly tied to their flagship franchise/mascot, so I don't think it affects his chances at all.
The same. Remember we’re in the timeline where Nintendo chose Banjo and Kazooie.
You know everything you said about Layton and Sora exactly describes what most people thought about Banjo & Kazooie's chances before they got in or per say before the Cuphead Switch port announcement. Almost everybody thought Banjo & Kazooie was impossible due to them being owned by one of Nintendo's direct competitors Microsoft. Despite Banjo & Kazooie being former 2nd party characters and Rare having a deep history within Nintendo, people didn't thought they were going to happen not even most of the Banjo-Kazooie fans. They had no Spirits, no reference of any kind before inclusion. People only started thinking they were possible when Microsoft allowed Nintendo to put Cuphead on the Switch and they saw that friendship between the two and started thinking: "Oh my God! Banjo is a likely possibility now.".
The "Nintendo *picked* the DLC" could mean so many things. I personally think they simply had final say on characters and Sakurai was at least allowed to suggestion or push characters, but Nintendo has to give final approval. To deny the creator something like this, idk that just seems weird to me.
I still truly believe that was a pick pushed by Sakurai more than Nintendo. Nintendo just gave the go-ahead on it.
Yeah. Still a crazy timeline though that’s for damn sure.
Im sorry.. But I dont see anything pointing to them being possable in my eyes unless im missing something but I dont see it
Oh I don't deny that for a second, it's a pretty great timeline. Only thing better probably would have been Grinch Leak being real for baseline, haha. But yeah. If Nintendo did the entire brainstorming, listing, and picking process, that is much more grim for Geno. Why would Nintendo even look his way? Why would Nintendo look Banjo-Kazooie's way, y'know? Sakurai *has* to be able to at least suggest "hey, fans REALLY want this character, and even *I'D* like this character, can we put them in?".
Even if Disney won't allow Sora into Smash, I'm sure Level 5 would allow Layton in if Sakurai asks. You have to remember, Level 5 is one of the biggest developers in Japan and it's one of the few big Japanese gaming companies still not yet in the game.
Exactly. Level 5 is on great terms with Nintendo, and I'm very certain they would allow him if they asked.
In general the only characters who I'd think aren't possible at all are the ones that originate from properties that are mainly based outside of game, even if the character was made specifically for the game in question. Everything else is just based on likeliness. I don't see them as likely, but impossible is to harsh.
I.. dont know. I mean if you say so
The main thing is would they even bother to ask and pessimism is saying no
Keep in mind, this was the same Nintendo that decided Banjo, the lesser known Terry Bogard, and Joker who's never been on a Nintendo console (and I swear to God, if you say he was a shill for Persona 5 Scramble I am going to break something) to be in the Fighter Pass, so they clearly have more in mind than just trying to include glossy shill picks as it would seem.
I don't. Fighter's Pass turned out really good and even most of the fanbase agrees outside of Byleth which most people seem to have gotten over anyways. To quote the NoA ambassador, "Nintendo's not dumb." They know exactly what they're doing and have planned things out accordingly for the most impact. Sakurai has no so subtly suggested that Season 2 will be big fan favorites and I think Nintendo's well aware of the best characters to choose to please the fanbase.
I mean, joker was fine, but Banjo was the only one people actually asked for. I don't know if that's necessarily a good track record. The other characters play fine, but very little if anyone actually ever asked for them. Not sure where everyone has this idea that this next pass is gonna be the big fan favorite package. I think we all HOPE it is, but none of us really know.
Then to each their own, man. I just can't subscribe to it.
This theory falls apart because it ignores gender swaps, when many of them are considered separate characters, even within the game itself. Byleth had two splash screens specifically because they are separate characters and have different names in Japan
I aint asking you to. Im telling you how I feel about my characters
Probably in the front. Notice how both Cloud and Hero are in front of all other characters. It wouldn't surprise me if that's something Square requires.
Balloon Fighter or BUST. Sakurai could use Villager as a base for him.
When did Sakurai suggest that? I believe you and all, just wanna see for myself.
Like I've said, every time Sakurai has brought up Season 2 there's always been this air of significance and finality that he didn't really have with the Fighter's Pass. The man hasn't outright said it but has very heavily implied it. There's definitely a different tone and approach, in my opinion.
Simply because some people here want the thread to get locked.
There is no way Joker and Hero (or at least *something* DQ-related) weren't heavily requested by some people, at least in Japan. Terry and Byleth though for sure were out of nowhere.
I sure hope this is the case because it would put Geno from "extremely high chances" to a lock in my eyes, with the only thing getting in his way is SE being ****heads for whatever reason.
sorry, Didnt mean to
