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I don’t understand how anyone thinks Reimu is at all likely
Ah gotcha about the color thing.
True, its a win win then lol
Lots of touhou games have been releasing outside of japan the past 3 years. Doujim fan games many of them but those are still touhou games tied to the series, just spin offs really. Woth how ZUN feels about doujin community, those games crossing over to america is just as important as the offical games coming over.
I'd say pretty meh. The only ones that even slightly appeal to me are Dante and master chief (I never owned A PlayStation, and so have never played crash, but I'm definitely ok with him being there) I honestly don't get why people think reimu is so likely.. (or, for that matter, why people are so enamored with her)
Stop trying to pigeon hole Joker as truly related to SMT. It's just blatantly not at this point as no part of Joker in Smash has anything to do with SMT, not even in minor ways, it's literally all Persona 3 to 5 content and Atlus goes out of their way to separate them and define them differently. He's a Persona character, and only a modern Persona character at that. There's not really any sort of leg to stand on in attempting to classify him as such or pretend that Joker wasn't almost entirely inspired by Sakurai's love for Persona 5 more specifically. And Persona Q is such a red headed step child of the series that it almost certainly had next to nothing to do with any Persona content in Smash.
Didnt want to being that up as it would require more explaining, but that is true. Its funny how that doujin rumor still is floating around haha
I guess I can just use the same argument everyone else uses and say Skyrim got the perfect Famitsu score and leave it at that, because that's all I know about it, really. I'm not big into The Elder Scrolls and put 10 minutes into Skyrim before dropping it out of boredom. Given that we have Joker instead of a more meaningful SMT rep and the face of Hero in this game isn't Dragon Quest 3's, I sort of feel like the necessity for the OG protagonist or the series staple has gone out the window.
Thats cool and all but... Geno.
I've considered this too. Kamiya and Sakurai probably shoot tequila shots on the weekends but the timing is still off. My big issue isn't just the timing of Kamiya's poll, it's Sakurai saying that the doors of the Fighter's Pass were shut and locked like a month and a half before it. Sakurai literally took to Twitter (in English no less) said "yo, uh... S'up fools? We've already decided the Fighter's Pass so, uh, don't bug us with fan campaigns, aight?" They knew who they wanted, at least the first 5. We have decent evidence that December 2018 was when existential dread started to wash over Sakurai and he thought "****... The Smash fanbase isn't just going to be satisfied with these 5 characters, are they? Goddamnit... GODDAMNIT! *sobs*" Like I outlined, I feel like we have a lot of clues for who Sakurai immediately thought of when he was like "ah **** on toast, I have to make a Season 2, don't I?"
Thanks. I know Wii Sporta held the title for awhile and SMB 1 before that. Minecraft is aided by the fact that it is on every platform imaginable
True, i also tried playing skyrim and gave up in about the same time. Got board, way too open for me to get sucked in and not much of a story i felt. Yeah it got a perfect score in famatsu, but a great game score sadly doesnt always translate to insane sales or lastimg popularity. I mean we see that all the time with games, like beyond good and evil and many other underrated gems
Small correction, "SMT" actualy date back to the NES with the 2 first Megami Tensei games, who are adaptation of the Devil Survivor novel who inspired the series.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ffQmb-cNFuk
The entirety of your argument lies on the fact that Kamiya's poll somehow was the key in getting Dante in Smash; this likely was not the case. Dante has always been popular, especially since the reveal of DMC 5. Even outside the Smash fanbase. The poll was likely just a "fun" thing that Kamiya wanted to do; I doubt that Kamiya didn't suspect Dante is popular to win the poll from the outset.
Well, you're free to dislike the game; but Skyrim has insane sales and lasting popularity. There was a reason why Skyrim was chosen to showcase the reveal of the Switch.
There's no gatekeeping if the gate was already open. There was a Persona game on the 3DS in 2014 before Smash Ultimate began development. That's kind of the end of it. SMT doesn't even technically have to be considered, it's just kind of extra when you consider the history of both series. On that note, Persona Q covers Persona 3 and 4 and Persona Q 2 was released in Japan in November 2018, shortly before Joker's announcement in December so, yes, Joker even bypassed that formality before being added.
True... stil i dont think ending on slyrim assume it may have been the final dlc for the game doesnt feel right
Fatmanonice
I think thebreason people are considering Reimu is because we have been getting Japan popular characters in FP5 to date. Only Banjo was really popular in the West of the group. Sure the other 3 have minor fanbases but they don't drove hype. People keep expecting similar picks with the future DLC. Hopefully you are right that Sakurai is focus on fan favorites across the board with the new picks but you can't blame people for setting expectations low at this point.
First and foremost, where the *bleep* is Geno?! And how can you call this list the "most likely" while omitting the fact that Geno has more legit clues, reasoning and fan support (at least within the Smash Community) behind him than any of these? Secondly,
If it was obvious then there was literally no point to it than to show people that didn't know it was obvious. That's what we call a critical analysis. People do this all the time. That's why I provided a lot of citations in my big ol' Geno essay because a lot of my talking points are esoteric if you're totally unfamiliar with the character. Yes, Dante's popularity is obvious to us but imagine your typical suit/number chruncher who gives negative ****s about video games and only cares "will this sell?" These are the guys you have to convince to get things greenlit. Yes, if it was just Kamiya and Sakurai's decision, it probably would have happened immediately but there's a lot of red tape to cross with this stuff.
Yeah, I should note that I think that the poll might just be a charade and that Dante was always going to be the choice for reasons having to do with daddy Nintendo and mommy Capcom. Basically, if there was going to be another Kamiya rep, it wasn't ever going to be anybody but Dante (pour one out for Ammy) because DMC makes up the third pillar of Capcom's new strategy for success TM alongside the relegated Monster Hunter and the spirited away Resident Evil. I'm just saying that there's a plausible reading of Dante talks as preceding even a discussion of porting Devil May Cry, let alone Kamiya's poll, even if I could be persuaded into seeing it otherwise.
Except there's no reasonable contest Dante has in that poll, either. You'd have to be a pretty stupid suit if you can't see who the most popular and relevant character among those characters are.
Process of elimination.
It's not a matter of stupidity, it's a matter of showing data in a way that even a toddler could understand. Your typical middle aged Japanese senior executive probably doesn't know what the **** a Viewtiful Joe is or how its popularity compares to whatever the hell a Wonder Red is. You know those videos where people's parents and grandparents try to guess the names of Pokemon/Smash characters? Imagine that but you have to show these same people that one is overwhelmingly the best choice and is a smart thing to invest honest to god money in. How can you demonstrate the objective opportunity cost of video game characters to people who probably aren't gamers? A simple poll. With a simple enough poll, it doesn't even matter if they know who Dante is or not; they can clearly see he's more liked then those other guys by a wide margin. That's the point.
So we're riding on the assumption that Vergeben and Sabi's word is legit. Got it.
This is definitely legit, it's just that Capcom brass has clearly shown that RE, MH and DMC are the three games they would like to promote, so I don't know if any impromptu twitter poll was needed to determine what Capcom's strategy would be for additional Smash content. We've seen that RE and MH likely didn't make the cut as characters and so that leaves only one choice left in the eyes of corporate.
Who knows. Have you seen a lot of ROB or Ice Climbers merch around?
Aside from his Amiibo, i would buy a Geno plush in a heartbeat
But assuming that Nintendo/Capcom have any common sense, they'd probably hire people that at the very least know about the difference in popularity of one of Capcom's most popular IP's that is currently relevant vs some of their lesser known series.
You better believe some merch will come out of the woodwork. It will probably take some time, but I could see new statues or such for SMRPG.
Doesn't the scope of these three pieces of criteria just naturally cover almost every third party in existence anyway with how broad that is? If a character just has to fit one to be "in the pattern," then you could have almost anybody for the last fighter and have it still work lol.
This is Geno we're talking about, I am expecting literal woodwork for his merch!
