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Just noticed a message about this on my wall but I'd figured I'd answer this since a TON of people ask me about it. I was always of the mind that "promotions" would be very limited. My original guess was 2 but now I'm saying 3 and, going with my theories, I think it makes sense.

6, 7, and 8, in my theory, are "bonuses" between the real start of Season 2. All my proposed characters coincidentally enough are all "promotions." Purple Pie Man would be an AT promotion, Geno would be a spirit promotion (among other things), and Lloyd would be a costume promotion. So, one of each of the clamored "promotions." My hypothesis is that these were probably the most popular of their respective categories. Purple Pie Man was the most wanted AT promotion, Geno the most wanted spirit promotion, and Lloyd the most wanted costume promotion. To quote GameXplain and their super cheeky analysis "bam, bam, bam." Again, this seems very deliberate, especially if 9 (my theory is Crash) really is the true start of Season 2 and the return to totally new content from franchises totally new to Smash. But, again, we'll see how things play out.

Also, the chances of it happening are almost non-existent, but if the "bonus season" was all revealed at once instead of being split between a January Direct and E3, I will probably laugh myself into a coma. A lot of people are struggling to believe a double reveal, imagine a quadruple and how mind shattering that would be. Granted, I'm not betting on it but Sakurai flexing that goddamn hard would be legendary. I think people would unironically go into cardiac arrest.
 

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I really think Isaac deserves the AT upgrade more than Waluigi. They really should do both at the same time.
 

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I really think Isaac deserves the AT upgrade more than Waluigi. They really should do both at the same time.
See this is the danger of the “promotion” can of worms, which is why they’ll probably limit themselves.

Waluigi? Why not Isaac?
Isaac? Why not Shovel Knight?
Shovel Knight? Why not Skull Kid?
Skull Kid? Why not Shadow?
Etc.

although if we’re talking promotion deservingness Bomberman is an NES era mascot character who defined couch party multiplayer games *incoherent grumbling*
 

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At this point, Waluigi almost feels like the poster boy for assist trophies, but that is just my perspective though.

I wonder how people would react to Geno if Waluigi got in before him. Some people may think that is one to many Mairo characters, but Mario is such a big franchise that I don't think it would be an issue. Plus, they would both be huge fan wants.
 

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So im predicting a direct sometime this week. Have they ever announced direct dates on sundays? Im predicting it'll be either on the 6th or 7th.

Also if fatmanonice is right, my guess is that they would reveal dragonborn at the beggining and purple guy and geno double reveal trailer at the end...

I wonder how a waluigi/geno duo trailer would work out?

Also inb4 they do get revealed and stoicmiiverse has to draw geno and waluigi escaping assist trophy/spirit hell and Isaac gets left behind :(
 
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I just wanted to say that PG hasn't mentioned Dragonborn like, at all until his most recent video and that's only because of the rumors surrounding him beforehand. During the week of the VGA's, he was feeling confident in KOS-MOS and even then he said he had no idea who Fighter 5 was.
Oh, I know. Papa and I are friends but, like all friends, we don't agree on everything even though we share some of the same contacts. He has a lot of confidence in S***'s source. Supposedly all the Forest Maze admins and mods (whether intentional or not) know who the guy is and swear up and down that they're a huge deal. Two of my friends from S***'s private Discord have made the same claim so acknowledge it. Supposedly they're a big deal... But I don't care. No offense to them. This is why I haven't bothered trying to figure who it is. I'll respect that secret.

Something that should be very obvious is that insiders aren't infallible and this is why I take the approach that I do. Instead of one, I have four contacts and a sprawling network of people I can fact check things with. I'm not afraid of telling these guys "yeah, I think that's bull****" if they share a rumor that flies in the face of other Intel. For example, only one of my contacts currently has a hard guess for 6. They think it's Geno and I'm like "nah, man, nah..." People are allowed to be wrong and, truth be told, a lot of insiders are deathly afraid of disagreeing with their sources. I don't agree with this approach. I treat my contacts like friends (because they are, first and foremost) and can disagree with them without full on disrespecting them. They're people. I'm a person (I think). They should be allowed to be wrong but be truthful about what they think without fear that I'm going to "expose them" if they have bad intel. **** happens. It's totally forgivable.

Another topic I wanted to cover is "how this **** works." On Discord yesterday, three users who I won't publicly name because this is embarrassing enough, messaged me claiming to be insiders. They UNIRONICALLY believe this is how this works. No, listen... I met my contacts because of friends of friends and my own reaching out to people. People don't just drop secrets in my DMs. That's stupid... Painfully stupid... Why would you believe that? Moving on...

Once a connection is established, usually two things have to happen: they have to prove their track record and prove they actually have connections. Some contacts have literally shown me their LinkedIn profiles and Twitter accounts. These four contacts give me an extraordinary amount of trust. Even my wife doesn't know the true identities of these people or my NoA ambassador friend. I treat this incredibly seriously. Once it's established that they not only have info but I'm trustworthy... That's where a friendship begins. Again, two of my contacts shared me with huge rumors on Christmas because I merely wished them a Merry Christmas. I get this info from being a decent ****in' human being: keeping my contacts safe, asking permission to share info, not treating them like ****in' info vending machines, etc. People think I'm this terrible, horrible person when the truth of the matter is that I try to approach this as ethically as possible and respecting my contacts on a basic human level.
 
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So im predicting a direct sometime this week. Have they ever announced direct dates on sundays? Im predicting it'll be either on the 6th or 7th.

Also if fatmanonice is right, my guess is that they would reveal dragonborn at the beggining and purple guy and geno double reveal trailer at the end...

I wonder how a waluigi/geno duo trailer would work out?

Also inb4 they do get revealed and stoicmiiverse has to draw geno and waluigi escaping assist trophy/spirit hell and Isaac gets left behind :(
They have never announced a Direct on a Sunday to my knowledge, and Directs have always been on Wednesdays and Thursdays except for a few game specific Directs.

(I really hope all three of them get in as DLC as they are the top three of my most wanted characters and that drawing would be really sad)
 

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Having Waluigi and Geno finishing up the Mario reps for this game is fine by me. Leave Paper Mario or Toad/Captain Toad (or whomever people usually clamor for) for another game.
 
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Just noticed a message about this on my wall but I'd figured I'd answer this since a TON of people ask me about it. I was always of the mind that "promotions" would be very limited. My original guess was 2 but now I'm saying 3 and, going with my theories, I think it makes sense.

6, 7, and 8, in my theory, are "bonuses" between the real start of Season 2. All my proposed characters coincidentally enough are all "promotions." Purple Pie Man would be an AT promotion, Geno would be a spirit promotion (among other things), and Lloyd would be a costume promotion. So, one of each of the clamored "promotions." My hypothesis is that these were probably the most popular of their respective categories. Purple Pie Man was the most wanted AT promotion, Geno the most wanted spirit promotion, and Lloyd the most wanted costume promotion. To quote GameXplain and their super cheeky analysis "bam, bam, bam." Again, this seems very deliberate, especially if 9 (my theory is Crash) really is the true start of Season 2 and the return to totally new content from franchises totally new to Smash. But, again, we'll see how things play out.

Also, the chances of it happening are almost non-existent, but if the "bonus season" was all revealed at once instead of being split between a January Direct and E3, I will probably laugh myself into a coma. A lot of people are struggling to believe a double reveal, imagine a quadruple and how mind shattering that would be. Granted, I'm not betting on it but Sakurai flexing that goddamn hard would be legendary. I think people would unironically go into cardiac arrest.
Are you partially believing the 3 revealed at once now because I brought up the idea on my most recent post, or did you not see that one because of the pace of the thread? Things move fast and I wonder if posting here is sometimes like shouting into a void. I myself leave for stretches and don’t try catching up on 100s of pages of posts.
 

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Oh, I know. Papa and I are friends but, like all friends, we don't agree on everything even though we share some of the same contacts. He has a lot of confidence in S***'s source. Supposedly all the Forest Maze admins and mods (whether intentional or not) know who the guy is and swear up and down that they're a huge deal. Two of my friends from S***'s private Discord have made the same claim so acknowledge it. Supposedly they're a big deal... But I don't care. No offense to them. This is why I haven't bothered trying to figure who it is. I'll respect that secret.

Something that should be very obvious is that insiders aren't infallible and this is why I take the approach that I do. Instead of one, I have four contacts and a sprawling network of people I can fact check things with. I'm not afraid of telling these guys "yeah, I think that's bull****" if they share a rumor that flies in the face of other Intel. For example, only one of my contacts currently has a hard guess for 6. They think it's Geno and I'm like "nah, man, nah..." People are allowed to be wrong and, truth be told, a lot of insiders are deathly afraid of disagreeing with their sources. I don't agree with this approach. I treat my contacts like friends (because they are, first and foremost) and can disagree with them without full on disrespecting them. They're people. I'm a person (I think). They should be allowed to be wrong but be truthful about what they think without fear that I'm going to "expose them" if they have bad intel. **** happens. It's totally forgivable.

Another topic I wanted to cover is "how this **** works." On Discord yesterday, three users who I won't publicly name because this is embarrassing enough, messaged me claiming to be insiders. They UNIRONICALLY believe this is how this works. No, listen... I met my contacts because of friends of friends and my own reaching out to people. People don't just drop secrets in my DMs. That's stupid... Painfully stupid... Why would you believe that? Moving on...

Once a connection is established, usually two things have to happen: they have to prove their track record and prove they actually have connections. Some contacts have literally shown me their LinkedIn profiles and Twitter accounts. These four contacts give me an extraordinary amount of trust. Even my wife doesn't know the true identities of these people or my NoA ambassador friend. I treat this incredibly seriously. Once it's established that they not only have info but I'm trustworthy... That's where a friendship begins. Again, two of my contacts shared me with huge rumors on Christmas because I merely wished them a Merry Christmas. I get this info from being a decent ****in' human being: keeping my contacts safe, asking permission to share info, not treating them like ****in' info vending machines, etc. People think I'm this terrible, horrible person when the truth of the matter is that I try to approach this as ethically as possible and respecting my contacts on a basic human level.
So what you’re saying is that NiGHTs from NiGHTS Into Dreams is confirmed? :troll:
 

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So would y'all want Geno to be voiced? If so, how would you want him to sound? If not, then what? SMRPG sound effects? Villager-like silence?
I am curious about the delay in announcing character 5. I am wondering if Nintendo had a non-popular Japanese character lined up and saw the backlash with Terry and decided to move another character up to be number 5.
There was zero significant backlash against Terry. You're letting your own distaste for him cloud your judgment.
Just a guess, but four unrelated first party Mii Costumes and a stage sounds to me like Fire Emblem: Three Houses content, it fits pretty well with Byleth, Edelgard, Dimitri and Claude, plus the fact that the game didn't have a Spirit Event around its release. Only thing that might be a bit odd here is that there isn't really a need for another Fire Emblem stage, but maybe that's just their way of doing the game justice in Smash without including a character. Would be a bit of a bummer as someone who wants Edelgard, but the only other logical choice I can see would be Astral Chain, although I'm not sure if it'd fit as well with the four Mii Costumes (genuinely don't know anything about the game), and I don't feel like its lack of Spirits is as glaring as in the case of Three Houses.
The one issue I'd see with that is Byleth, seeing as that'd leave out either the male or female version. That and Claude doesn't really fit any of the established Mii types well, given Gunner is the closest thing to a bow, and...yeah, lol. And then the other three would be kinda locked into Swordfighter.
 

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So would y'all want Geno to be voiced? If so, how would you want him to sound? If not, then what? SMRPG sound effects? Villager-like silence?
There was zero significant backlash against Terry. You're letting your own distaste for him cloud your judgment.

The one issue I'd see with that is Byleth, seeing as that'd leave out either the male or female version. That and Claude doesn't really fit any of the established Mii types well, given Gunner is the closest thing to a bow, and...yeah, lol. And then the other three would be kinda locked into Swordfighter.
well some mii costumes also have male and female variations, so it could work
 

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Are you partially believing the 3 revealed at once now because I brought up the idea on my most recent post, or did you not see that one because of the pace of the thread? Things move fast and I wonder if posting here is sometimes like shouting into a void. I myself leave for stretches and don’t try catching up on 100s of pages of posts.
Didn't see it but a quadruple reveal would be totally bonkers, even by my standards. I potentially entertain the idea for a couple of reasons including this:


As I pointed out many times, they very strangely avoid talking about Purple Pie Man, Geno, and Lloyd in this video. It's the elephant in the room and I even pointed this out back in November:

https://smashboards.com/threads/geno-♥♪-return-of-the-starsend-savior.446378/page-1854#post-23689471

https://smashboards.com/threads/geno-♥♪-return-of-the-starsend-savior.446378/page-1854#post-23689527

Like I've said, I only point out GameXplain's dog whistling of prominent YouTubers because they've been extraordinarily rude to some of my friends including Papagenos and my NoA ambassador friends and ironically, I even feel a little bad for S*** for being called out on when all S*** did was notice the comically unsubtle hints over literally the course of a year. All in all, a big reason I don't do this **** on Twitter or Facebook.
 

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geno will be a playable character in super smash bros ultimate for the nintendo switch by the end of the year
 

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So would y'all want Geno to be voiced? If so, how would you want him to sound? If not, then what? SMRPG sound effects? Villager-like silence?
I always imagined him having a somewhat boyish voice along the lines of Pit, given that the doll he possesses is (seemingly) a child. Having SMRPG sound effects on his moves is a given but I’ve always preferred Smash characters to have voice acting.
 

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My prediction is still a triple reveal because a quadruple reveal would either be somewhat disappointing or absolutely vaporize us with hype.

Wazygoose Wazygoose My prediction is that there will only be two Smash CGI trailers in the upcoming Direct: One for Dragonborn and one for Geno because, if Purple Pie Man was always planned as a bonus, there were probably no plans to give him a CGI trailer so he would have a trailer like Plant. You, however, have brought up the prospect of a dream scenario... What if the three "promotions" we're all shown in the same trailer? Either it would be like Plant's and kind of a bummer or it would be glorious CGI face ****in' extravaganza that would annihilate us all. There would be no in-between.
 

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My prediction is still a triple reveal because a quadruple reveal would either be somewhat disappointing or absolutely vaporize us with hype.

Wazygoose Wazygoose My prediction is that there will only be two Smash CGI trailers in the upcoming Direct: One for Dragonborn and one for Geno because, if Purple Pie Man was always planned as a bonus, there were probably no plans to give him a CGI trailer so he would have a trailer like Plant. You, however, have brought up the prospect of a dream scenario... What if the three "promotions" we're all shown in the same trailer? Either it would be like Plant's and kind of a bummer or it would be glorious CGI face ****in' extravaganza that would annihilate us all. There would be no in-between.
>it's a bank heist trailer where lloyd, waluigi, and Geno have to find a way to steal the smash invitation or a prison escape trailer

God a promotion trailer with all three of them would be amazing.
 

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Like I've been saying, little dog whistles that add up. Also, I'll mention another since Papagenos came out with the name Dragonborn, during the VGAs (at least in North America) two Bethesda games were on sale on the Switch... Skyrim and DOOM.

Like I said as far back as November, there's been dog whistles for Purple Pie Man and Geno for awhile too but I'd be an asshole for pointing them all out. Also, like I've teased, even if we managed to get a triple Smash reveal... It still wouldn't be the biggest announcement of the hypothetical January Direct. For those curious, it may be worth reading some of my clues from the Nindies/VGAs but, if you figure it out, let's keep it a secret, shall we? It's definitely a big deal and the secret should be kept for the sake of the full emotional impact that it will more than likely have.
It can't be mother three... don't give me that hope lmao.
 

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Geno, Waluigi, Lloyd, Crash, Hayabusa, ect? This year sure is going to be exciting for Smash fans Fatman.

I just changed my avatar after using my old one for more than half a year. How you guys like it?
 

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A bit unrelated to the current topic but, when I saw the article the other day that the fan project of Mother 4 was rebranded to Oddity, and the prospect that this game will actually release in the future (hopefully sometime this year or the next), it seemed to me like a good omen for the start of this new year. :)

 

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A bit unrelated to the current topic but, when I saw the article the other day that the fan project of Mother 4 was rebranded to Oddity, and the prospect that this game will actually release in the future (hopefully sometime this year or the next), it seemed to me like a good omen for the start of this new year. :)

Oh sweet, I was wondering when we'd get more info on this! I can't wait for this game to come out!
 

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I always imagined him having a somewhat boyish voice along the lines of Pit, given that the doll he possesses is (seemingly) a child. Having SMRPG sound effects on his moves is a given but I’ve always preferred Smash characters to have voice acting.
id see him having a boyish voice too! but id also believe it would have a british sort of shtik to it, take King for another day interviews with geno as an example. the interviews and skits show him saying things such as "m'lady" and being quite polite. what do you guys think?
 

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Gonna throw my two cents on the whole "double/triple reveal" business...
  • One reveal - Pretty much guaranteed, they can only put off Fighter 5 for so long before we reach the February deadline.
  • Double reveal - There's already precedent for this (Simon and K. Rool in the August 2018 Smash Direct, Hero and Banjo in the 2019 E3 Direct), so I could see it happening again.
  • Triple reveal - ... eh. Maybe it could happen, but I'm not holding my breath... and I only see it happening during a dedicated Smash Direct, not a general one.
I wonder how people would react to Geno if Waluigi got in before him. Some people may think that is one to many Mairo characters, but Mario is such a big franchise that I don't think it would be an issue. Plus, they would both be huge fan wants.
I think Waluigi would be a good choice for a "bonus" DLC character who isn't a part of any Fighters Pass. He wouldn't really "need" to come with a stage, music, spirits, or Mii Fighter costumes since the general Mario series already has a lot. Add in the Assist Trophy providing a perfectly good model to work off of, and making Waluigi playable already could take potentially less work than a regular Fighters Pass character.

I think Geno would also fit this role, albeit to a lesser extent, since you could easily argue he should come with a Super Mario RPG stage, music, and spirit selection... of course, all that doesn't matter since the Caco-Mallow leak, if real, would imply he's gonna be a regular Fighters Pass character anyway.
 

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Didn't see it but a quadruple reveal would be totally bonkers, even by my standards. I potentially entertain the idea for a couple of reasons including this:


As I pointed out many times, they very strangely avoid talking about Purple Pie Man, Geno, and Lloyd in this video. It's the elephant in the room and I even pointed this out back in November:

https://smashboards.com/threads/geno-♥♪-return-of-the-starsend-savior.446378/page-1854#post-23689471

https://smashboards.com/threads/geno-♥♪-return-of-the-starsend-savior.446378/page-1854#post-23689527

Like I've said, I only point out GameXplain's dog whistling of prominent YouTubers because they've been extraordinarily rude to some of my friends including Papagenos and my NoA ambassador friends and ironically, I even feel a little bad for S*** for being called out on when all S*** did was notice the comically unsubtle hints over literally the course of a year. All in all, a big reason I don't do this **** on Twitter or Facebook.
Omg, are we still using that GameXplain video as an indicator that Geno & Waluigi are getting in? They're game journalists, of course they're going to know some things in advance but not that far in advance. They're not sitting on every reveal character so they know which character to tiptoe around. At this point I get why the GameXplain crew are getting upset with the speculation and leaks stuff, people keep hanging on to their very words when 80% of the time it's just their opinions.
 

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id see him having a boyish voice too! but id also believe it would have a british sort of shtik to it, take King for another day interviews with geno as an example. the interviews and skits show him saying things such as "m'lady" and being quite polite. what do you guys think?
I just feel that it would be really weird to see him talk after having my own voice for him (for some reason I chose 50 Cent). But I do enjoy the idea of a British Geno!
 

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Geno, Waluigi, Lloyd, Crash, Hayabusa, ect? This year sure is going to be exciting for Smash fans Fatman.

I just changed my avatar after using my old one for more than half a year. How you guys like it?
It looks pretty good to me...and about the triple reveal thing i have an even better idea:
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I think we're getting either a single reveal or double. There's no way there would be 3 unique character reveals in a single presentation this far into the FP.

Most likely FP #5 and then possibly After FP #1. Can't see them doing a bonus FP character unless it's going to be something significant.
 

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I really think Isaac deserves the AT upgrade more than Waluigi. They really should do both at the same time.
Since people have been discussing the prospect of Waluigi being promoted over Isacc (as well as how long people have genuinely wanted him), I just have to say what I've been repeating for a while...

To Nintendo, it doesn't matter how much Waluigi's outcry was a joke or not. Nintendo doesn't look at that stuff. When Ultimate was unveiled at E3 and Waluigi was shown as an Assist Trophy, the outcry was HUGE (meme or otherwise). So much so, that even Reggie acknowledged it and major news publications covered it (such as the fricken' Washington Post)! While people may think Isaac deserves it more, unfortunately for him, Waluigi is a mainstay of the most popular video game character's spinoffs. I know people like to lessen the Mario spinoffs to devalue Waluigi, but... um... have you SEEN Mario Kart's sales alone?! Just Mario Kart is massive enough to be considered one of Nintendo's premier franchises. And then there are also the Mario Party and sports games that do insanely well. Nintendo sees that a character from their most successful franchise is wanted like MAD... well, then they're probably gonna put that character in regardless whether they're in a snowglobe or not.

Now don't get me wrong, I'm not an Isaac detractor or a MASSIVE Waluigi supporter, but looking at the objective facts, Waluigi makes way more sense for Nintendo. Who knows if they even know how popular Golden Sun and/or Isaac is? It'd be nice if they did, but if they were going to add 1 single Nintendo character as DLC, they're gonna probably add the one with the massive outcry.

Edit: As for my take on Waluigi's outcry, I think the older longtime support for him has been mostly genuine. When he was shown as an Assist Trophy though, I think fans were legitimately saddened, but the volume was made MUCH louder due to memes. So I think the baseline support was genuine, but I think that E3 backlash was made much bigger due to memes.
 
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I think we're getting either a single reveal or double. There's no way there would be 3 unique character reveals in a single presentation this far into the FP.

Most likely FP #5 and then possibly After FP #1. Can't see them doing a bonus FP character unless it's going to be something significant.
Yeah, 2 reveals is what I'm betting on, though 3 is not impossible. They'll more than likely announce how Season 2 will be done either via individual DLC or another pass.
 
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I always imagined Geno would have an unnecessarily deep and man-ish voice, one that doesn't suit his appearance but hints at his true strength in a roundabout way.
 

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Would be so sick man. I'd settle for Keanu, though. :p
I’m now imagining Geno in the “We need guns” scene from the Matrix XD

On a related note, those “My Smash Academia” videos make me wish that if Captain Falcon ever gets an English voice in anything it’d be Chris Sabat lol
 

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I always imagined him having a somewhat boyish voice along the lines of Pit, given that the doll he possesses is (seemingly) a child. Having SMRPG sound effects on his moves is a given but I’ve always preferred Smash characters to have voice acting.
id see him having a boyish voice too! but id also believe it would have a british sort of shtik to it, take King for another day interviews with geno as an example. the interviews and skits show him saying things such as "m'lady" and being quite polite. what do you guys think?
I’ve sort of imagined him having a voice on the deeper side bit with a light timbre, maybe similar to Link’s voice but deeper. He always has seemed the most serious good-guy character (low bar for SMRPG), so I think of those stereotypical anime voices of the serious young adult male, JoJo style maybe?
 

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This. Supposedly DLC wasn't pitched to Sakurai and his team until around the time Smash Ultimate was publicly announced so around Spring 2018. That means that Purple Pie Man would have been decided to have been an assist trophy back in December 2015 two years prior.
Sorry, but who the *bleep* is Purple Pie Man and what game is he from???
 

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My opinion about the assist trophy promotion discussion is that characters with a longer request history should be given priority over others. Isaac has been extremely requested since before the Brawl days. Golden Sun came out right around Melee's release so there wasn't enough time for people to want Isaac, but pretty much right after Melee's release people started requesting him for the inevitable Melee sequel. That's why I think he should be promoted before Waluigi, since Waluigi's support wasn't really great until the Smash 4 speculation days.

That's also why I think Geno should be added before any assist trophy promotions. Geno is the only character left who has been highly requested since the Melee days. I think it'd be unfair to skip ahead to the assist trophy promotions without finishing the last of the longest requested characters.
 

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Sorry, but who the *bleep* is Purple Pie Man and what game is he from???
The Wah.

My opinion about the assist trophy promotion discussion is that characters with a longer request history should be given priority over others. Isaac has been extremely requested since before the Brawl days. Golden Sun came out right around Melee's release so there wasn't enough time for people to want Isaac, but pretty much right after Melee's release people started requesting him for the inevitable Melee sequel. That's why I think he should be promoted before Waluigi, since Waluigi's support wasn't really great until the Smash 4 speculation days.

That's also why I think Geno should be added before any assist trophy promotions. Geno is the only character left who has been highly requested since the Melee days. I think it'd be unfair to skip ahead to the assist trophy promotions without finishing the last of the longest requested characters.
If you put it that way than I think Krystal should get promoted as well since she's been requested just as long as Isaac. Yes, Krystal isn't nowhere near as popular now as she was during the Brawl days but she was one of the big requests during that era alongside Ridley, Geno, Mega Man, Isaac, K. Rool, and Bomberman.
 

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I always imagined Geno would have an unnecessarily deep and man-ish voice, one that doesn't suit his appearance but hints at his true strength in a roundabout way.
Man, if Kirbopher didn’t do all those awful things I’d say he would be a great candidate for Geno’s VA :(
 
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