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Geno (♥♪!?): Return of the Starsend Savior

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PokéfreakofBACON

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Except you're not thinking outside the box if you think Shadow Dedede would be a boring echo. You can have his inhale work like a fusion of Dedede's and Wario's bite. You could make the Gordo a shadow orb that could be absorbed by Game and Watch's oil pan or Ness's psi field. You could even replace the Jet Hammer with one that works like Link's hero spin that makes him spin around with an axe.
Shadow Dedede is a slept on echo option, honestly. Bonkers doesn't even remotely match Dedede's arsenal or body proportions.

Smithy would be a weird echo though, especially to poor Boshi fans.
Shadow Dedede could be made different from Dedede, sure, but having "dark/evil [character thats already in]" is boring. Even if Dark Meta Knight would definitely have a ton of mirror stuff in his moveset, I still don't want him as an echo. I'd much rather have at the very least Galacta/Morpho Knight if we got an MK echo.

(Also before you ask, no, Boshi is not a boring echo just because he's evil Yoshi, because he actually has a unique design rather than just being a different color.)

Bonkers absolutely could be a Dedede echo, other than the body proportions being different. Isabelle/Doctor Mario type clone would make more sense I guess. He'd use exploding nuts instead of Gordos, a non-charging down b that's just hammer flip, Up B works unchanged for Bonkers, but you could change the animation to fit him better, and neutral B is the only special left that would have to change to something else entirely- (maybe a hammer toss or something idk) but all of Dedede's other moves would fit Bonkers really well. Even the crouch/down tilt would work on Bonkers, though that'd probably change anyway just to keep it as a Dedede thing.

If not for the same-series echo "rule" (i hesitate to call it that since it's more of a pattern than a rule) then Smithy as Dedede echo... I could see it working unironically, but it'd require a little creative liberties. Neutral B would have to change for sure (head change? something like Monado Arts, but without a time limit?) and... they'd have to give Smithy legs, since he doesn't have any? I think? Just use some random Smithy Minion instead of Gordos, maybe a different Up B (though I have no idea what it would be) since Smithy isn't ever shown jumping as an attack or anything.

It'd definitely be SILLY, and certainly not something that will ever actually happen even if you ignore the same-series echo rule and the fact that it's a 3rd party character... but it could work, theoretically.
 

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I think the reason there's a same-series thing is that otherwise it'd be odd when you stack echoes on the css.
 

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We talking echoes? Because I've had a concept to make Classic Sonic a pseudo-echo like Dr. Mario and in this essay I'll---
 
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Who could be an echo of Geno?...

... all I got is Iron Man
Astro Boy
Mega Man
Geno from an alternate universe where he's been in every Mario Kart
Mii Gunner
Math Blaster

You know, this ****post has made me realize that Mega Man X and MegaMan.EXE are blue guys with gun arms that are prime time candidates to come with Geno, being that they're still strangely missing...
 

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What if Geno got in, but because he's a Mario character, he didn't bring a new stage- he came with an old stage.

That's right.






Geno + Poke Floats FP5.
 

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The two echo ideas that come to my mind in regard to SMRPG is Boshi as an echo to Yoshi and maybe Booster as an echo to Wario.
 
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(Also before you ask, no, Boshi is not a boring echo just because he's evil Yoshi, because he actually has a unique design rather than just being a different color.)
As someone who glazed over that part of SMRPG (for shame), I'm curious at what he's got besides his design and running speed. I'd ask for more but don't wanna get too off topic.

As for Geno echoes, Serenade stole both of my ideas.
 

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Honestly, a Boshi echo with blazing fast run speed and merely good airspeed could be really cool. It'd be an inversion of Yoshi's stats, with his top-of-the-line airspeed and less good ground speed.
 

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How would that work?
I explained it on my support thread of his a year and a half ago. I think it was instead of Boshi encasing his opponent in an egg he'd keep them in his stomach and then be able to propel the opponent downwards and him upwards like the Waft. I made some compromises like reduced movement, not as an effective spike as most down airs and the ability to mash out faster than Egg :yoshi:
 

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As someone who glazed over that part of SMRPG (for shame), I'm curious at what he's got besides his design and running speed. I'd ask for more but don't wanna get too off topic.

As for Geno echoes, Serenade stole both of my ideas.
His design and the fact that he's an undefeated racer (before Mario gets there) are pretty much it. He has some dialogue though. He's just cool because he has sunglasses and claws.
 

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You gotta understand that the Yoshi species pretty much has identical character traits throughout all of its species to the point where they are LITERALLY interchangeable in their own games, so to see a Yoshi character that subverts it even a little bit as Boshi does is remarkable in and of itself. You can already imagine his actions and reactions to any future circumstance because of that contrast :yoshi:
 
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There I go again taking a day long break from the thread. I don't even have anything to blame but my own laziness. Oof.

Anyways, I saw some peeps sharing artwork so I decided to try and draw Geno myself. I'm pretty rusty at drawing and I was never very good at it to begin with, and it's pretty rough even considering it's a WIP, but here ya go. Using the Nibroc-Rock render as a basis

wip geno head.jpg
 
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So, I know we're not supposed to talk about S**i, but their entire Discord just got deleted out of NOWHERE. Refugees in Papagenos Discord have no idea what's going on, and I think they're gone from Discord all together.

Looks like the hammer finally dropped. So does this mean their deconfirms including Geno are back on the table?
 

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You gotta understand that the Yoshi species pretty much has identical character traits throughout all of its species to the point where they are LITERALLY interchangeable in their own games, so to see a Yoshi character that subverts it even a little bit as Boshi does is remarkable in and of itself. You can already imagine his actions and reactions to any future circumstance because of that contrast :yoshi:
iirc Boshi is like Yoshi's "warui", or he is to Yoshi as Wario is to Mario, rather. I loved that they played around with that, this adorable dinosaur that thinks it's a total bad ass. I think that attitude really translated to baby Yoshi in TTYD.
 

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Wow, that cloaked jester looks freaking awesome.
Thanks. His (just gonna use those pronouns since Geno does too) name is Geppetto/Xeno. When I have time and energy, I might do some cleaner art of him. Maybe a back to back rivals pose with Geno.
 

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So, I know we're not supposed to talk about S**i, but their entire Discord just got deleted out of NOWHERE. Refugees in Papagenos Discord have no idea what's going on, and I think they're gone from Discord all together.

Looks like the hammer finally dropped. So does this mean their deconfirms including Geno are back on the table?
I dunno; people are saying it was nuked because of drama, but they’re not saying what it was because they’re not allowed. Apparently there’s also a backup server.
 
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So, I know we're not supposed to talk about S**i, but their entire Discord just got deleted out of NOWHERE. Refugees in Papagenos Discord have no idea what's going on, and I think they're gone from Discord all together.

Looks like the hammer finally dropped. So does this mean their deconfirms including Geno are back on the table?
Yeesh. All the same to me. To clarify, there's only one man in this thread who would have the answers, and he's only on Discord at the moment. I encourage everyone to hit him up there rather than go crazy about it here.
 
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Woah what's going on? Is everything ok?
 

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So, I know we're not supposed to talk about S**i, but their entire Discord just got deleted out of NOWHERE. Refugees in Papagenos Discord have no idea what's going on, and I think they're gone from Discord all together.

Looks like the hammer finally dropped. So does this mean their deconfirms including Geno are back on the table?
Well then...
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Here is a query, say Geno was revealed with someone else in the same exact trailer, who would you want it to be and how would it go?
Shadow, or Phoenix Wright, or both!
or hell, the Courier from Fallout if you want to get insane.
I can actually picture that last one. It would have the Courier, in NCR range armor like in the cover, walking towards star hill and dropping a letter there. The letter turns over, revealing the smash logo and Geno shows up and picks it up.
 

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Wait, are you all censoring yourselves, or is their name actually being censored automatically?

Shadow, or Phoenix Wright, or both!
or hell, the Courier from Fallout if you want to get insane.
I can actually picture that last one. It would have the Courier, in NCR range armor like in the cover, walking towards star hill and dropping a letter there. The letter turns over, revealing the smash logo and Geno shows up and picks it up.
Shadow, definitely. If a trailer actually replicated that back-to-back stand against the puppet fighters I drew, I'd actually scream.
 

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Wait, are you all censoring yourselves, or is their name actually being censored automatically?


Shadow, definitely. If a trailer actually replicated that back-to-back stand against the puppet fighters I drew, I'd actually scream.
As funny as it'd be, their name isn't autocensored unfortunately. We're doing it ourselves.

Shadow, or Phoenix Wright, or both!
or hell, the Courier from Fallout if you want to get insane.
I can actually picture that last one. It would have the Courier, in NCR range armor like in the cover, walking towards star hill and dropping a letter there. The letter turns over, revealing the smash logo and Geno shows up and picks it up.
Shadow and Doomguy would be great for a Geno trailer for obvious, but my bias would say Waluigi or Skull Kid too.

Also I'll just put one last update to my Geno drawing here before I go to sleep:

wip geno body.jpg
 

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Wait, are you all censoring yourselves, or is their name actually being censored automatically?


Shadow, definitely. If a trailer actually replicated that back-to-back stand against the puppet fighters I drew, I'd actually scream.
Censoring ourselves, there's really no need to; but writing out "You-know-who" takes too long


Update from the PapaGeno discord.

Translation: Everyone finally had enough of them and they hit the eject button. If it wasn't their smug attitude for being vague it was them having the gall to try and paywall leaks behind their patreon, or the constant backtracking.

RIP in pieces
 

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Translation: Everyone finally had enough of them and they hit the eject button. If it wasn't their smug attitude for being vague it was them having the gall to try and paywall leaks behind their patreon, or the constant backtracking.

RIP in pieces
Don't forget the whole ****storm after being called out by Gamexplain.
 

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Translation: Everyone finally had enough of them and they hit the eject button. If it wasn't their smug attitude for being vague it was them having the gall to try and paywall leaks behind their patreon, or the constant backtracking.

RIP in pieces
A patreon?! They expected people to give them money to be vague?
 
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