Geno (♥♪!?): Return of the Starsend Savior

[PsychoIncarnate]

Even the famous ESRB leak lied about having additional information than what he specifically knew

 

[alemerltoucanet]

Even the famous ESRB leak lied about having additional information than what he specifically knew

He was basically just trying to see if he could get some more things right tbh.

 

[Deleted member]

Still a nice try though so kudos to who did it.

I mean it's hope for the real thing, and makes me want.


The Sqaure Enix rep to be confirmed as Geno so we could finally have him in game.


Sakurai and team will do his design justice Ridley, and King K. Rool look perfect. So If they'd could do them right they would do the same for Geno.

 

[Dreamking]

I'm not liking these two Geno pictures, but I would go with the second one if I had to pick between the two. It's the character select one.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

It's time guys! This was a flub on Nintendo's part, but it may mean there is an upcoming Smash direct soon!

Let's begin wishing upon the star road for Geno's return!

Edit:

False Alarm guys, it definitely is fake. Keep on the wishing though! We're so close regardless!

 

[alemerltoucanet]

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It's time guys! This was a flub on Nintendo's part, but it may mean there is an upcoming Smash direct soon!

Let's begin wishing upon the star road for Geno's return!

Edit:

False Alarm guys, it definitely is fake. Keep on the wishing though! We're so close regardless!

You had me shook for a second. XDDD

 

[Deleted member]

I mean Bloody/Tears Monsters Dance from Castlevania II was accidently leaked before the August Smash direct. So even Nintendo flubs every now and then. But I doubt something that big would leak. It's their big holiday title, so they would not want anything big for the game to leak. Although that has happened anyway big title for them, so I doubt stuff would leak.

But who knows, but your right we're getting something when? Who knows but soon most Definetly just hoping Geno is part of what's announced.

 

[Smashoperatingbuddy123]

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It's time guys! This was a flub on Nintendo's part, but it may mean there is an upcoming Smash direct soon!

Let's begin wishing upon the star road for Geno's return!

Edit:

False Alarm guys, it definitely is fake. Keep on the wishing though! We're so close regardless!

We’re still likely to get a Lucina/Robin esque like trailer this month and get the second smash direct in November

Hopefully a “smash ultimate 50 facts extravaganza”

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

We’re still likely to get a Lucina/Robin esque like trailer this month and get the second smash direct in November

Hopefully a “smash ultimate 50 facts extravaganza”

What is a Lucina/ Robin-esque trailer?

I don't really expect 2 characters from the same series to come to smash this time around

 

[RetrogamerMax]

What is a Lucina/ Robin-esque trailer?

I don't really expect 2 characters from the same series to come to smash this time around

A unique fighter and a Echo Fighter being shown off in the same trailer like and .

Edit: I could see them revealing both Tails and Shadow this way together.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

A unique fighter and a Echo Fighter being shown off in the same trailer like and .

Since we already got that in Simon and Richter I kind of don't think we're going to get another one

 

[RetrogamerMax]

Since we already got that in Simon and Richter I kind of don't think we're going to get another one

I could see Tails and Shadow getting revealed together.

 

[link2702]

Gah Nintendo hurry up already...give us SOMETHING here...

 

[alemerltoucanet]

A unique fighter and a Echo Fighter being shown off in the same trailer like and .

Edit: I could see them revealing both Tails and Shadow this way together.

Omg, a Tails and Shadow reveal would be a dream come true for me.

 

[TBone06]

Since we already got that in Simon and Richter I kind of don't think we're going to get another one

Hindsight is 20/20, but how cool would that trailer have been if they revealed it around now (Halloween time). Missed opportunity in my opinion.

 

[Smashoperatingbuddy123]

What is a Lucina/ Robin-esque trailer?

I don't really expect 2 characters from the same series to come to smash this time around

It’s morely just a single trailer to reveal 1 or 2 characters that’s not involved of a direct just a random day on the official site

 

[skydogc]

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It's time guys! This was a flub on Nintendo's part, but it may mean there is an upcoming Smash direct soon!

Let's begin wishing upon the star road for Geno's return!

Edit:

False Alarm guys, it definitely is fake. Keep on the wishing though! We're so close regardless!

THIS IS NOT A DRILL! I REPEAT, THIS IS NOT A DRILL!! PANIC UNCONTROLLABLY UNTIL A DIRECT ACTUALLY HAPPENS!!!!

 

[link2702]

THIS IS NOT A DRILL! I REPEAT, THIS IS NOT A DRILL!! PANIC UNCONTROLLABLY UNTIL A DIRECT ACTUALLY HAPPENS!!!!

Sooo... was this just an actual flub on Nintendo’s part, or was it just another fake “leak” ?

 

[Deleted member]

Up in the air. But who knows.

The main thing could mean something is coming.

 

[MooseSmuggler]

THIS IS NOT A DRILL! I REPEAT, THIS IS NOT A DRILL!! PANIC UNCONTROLLABLY UNTIL A DIRECT ACTUALLY HAPPENS!!!!

It was fake. Sorry love.

 

[EarlTamm]

You know, here's an interesting thought. How do you think Square would make original characters for a potential SMRPG sequel? Will they make something entirely new, or will they go along the Paper Mario party member route? Either way is fine, but I would prefer something entirely new. Even Paper Mario understood making 100% new party members like Vivian.

 

[skydogc]

It was fake. Sorry love.

That's why I said until a direct actually happens haha

 

[Rummy]

So hey, if we do get a direct or character announcement next week. Please remember to

Source: https://twitter.com/allsourcegaming/status/907447517096407040

 

[alemerltoucanet]

So hey, if we do get a direct or character announcement next week. Please remember to

Source: https://twitter.com/allsourcegaming/status/907447517096407040

Aka, hope for the best but expect the worst.
Basically, hope for Geno, expect Incineroar and/or Ken (this is mainly in the instance that we get a Robin/Lucina type trailer. I think we're getting Geno no matter what).

 

[Necro Toad]

Hey guys,

I ended up finding a curious information about how many characters will be in the base roster. This store is describing the game with 71 playable characters. I particularly think that this number is so specific that it is probably some information given by Nintendo, I do not think the store would have specifically written that number (instead of a 70) if it was just a speculative argument. Mainly because someone could complain about the ad saying something that does not match the product.
Even if Vergeben is correct then besides Ken and Incineroar we could also get the Square rep still in the base game.

Also, having only 3 empty slots remaining probably means that we will only get 1 Nintendo Direct until the game's launch.

So let's go Genobros, likely the next Nintendo Direct is the one we've been waiting for so long! And now we have 3 slots for Geno if you don't believe Vergeben and 1 if you do believe!

Source: https://www.game.co.uk/en/super-smash-bros-ultimate-limited-edition-steelbook-2493121

EDIT: I know that we have 72 characters right now but if we look only at new characters, then Isabelle is 68, meaning 3+ new fighters!

 

[Deleted member]

Hey guys,

I ended up finding a curious information about how many characters will be in the base roster. This store is describing the game with 71 playable characters. I particularly think that this number is so specific that it is probably some information given by Nintendo, I do not think the store would have specifically written that number (instead of a 70) if it was just a speculative argument. Mainly because someone could complain about the ad saying something that does not match the product.
Even if Vergeben is correct then besides Ken and Incineroar we could also get the Square rep still in the base game.

Also, having only 3 empty slots remaining probably means that we will only get 1 Nintendo Direct until the game's launch.

So let's go Genobros, likely the next Nintendo Direct is the one we've been waiting for so long! And now we have 3 slots for Geno if you don't believe Vergeben and 1 if you do believe!

Source: https://www.game.co.uk/en/super-smash-bros-ultimate-limited-edition-steelbook-2493121

EDIT: I know that we have 72 characters right now but if we look only at new characters, then Isabelle is 68, meaning 3+ new fighters!

Still don't know if we're getting anything this week. But if we do well... Yeah still don't believe it. Regardless look forward to news whenever that is. And thanks for the update Necro Toad 71 is fine, we'll find out if it's anything.

 

[OptimisticStrifer]

Hey guys,

I ended up finding a curious information about how many characters will be in the base roster. This store is describing the game with 71 playable characters. I particularly think that this number is so specific that it is probably some information given by Nintendo, I do not think the store would have specifically written that number (instead of a 70) if it was just a speculative argument. Mainly because someone could complain about the ad saying something that does not match the product.
Even if Vergeben is correct then besides Ken and Incineroar we could also get the Square rep still in the base game.

Also, having only 3 empty slots remaining probably means that we will only get 1 Nintendo Direct until the game's launch.

So let's go Genobros, likely the next Nintendo Direct is the one we've been waiting for so long! And now we have 3 slots for Geno if you don't believe Vergeben and 1 if you do believe!

Source: https://www.game.co.uk/en/super-smash-bros-ultimate-limited-edition-steelbook-2493121

EDIT: I know that we have 72 characters right now but if we look only at new characters, then Isabelle is 68, meaning 3+ new fighters!

Is this gonna be the next big theory everyone's gonna hop onto? I hate these 'big definitive theories' tbh

 

[domriver]

A Leaked Image of Geno!

He looks HORRIBLE IN HERE
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Someone claimed these to be fake? I personally wouldn't be upset at this. I hope this is real. :D

 

[JustCallMeJon]

Hey guys,

I ended up finding a curious information about how many characters will be in the base roster. This store is describing the game with 71 playable characters. I particularly think that this number is so specific that it is probably some information given by Nintendo, I do not think the store would have specifically written that number (instead of a 70) if it was just a speculative argument. Mainly because someone could complain about the ad saying something that does not match the product.
Even if Vergeben is correct then besides Ken and Incineroar we could also get the Square rep still in the base game.

Also, having only 3 empty slots remaining probably means that we will only get 1 Nintendo Direct until the game's launch.

So let's go Genobros, likely the next Nintendo Direct is the one we've been waiting for so long! And now we have 3 slots for Geno if you don't believe Vergeben and 1 if you do believe!

Source: https://www.game.co.uk/en/super-smash-bros-ultimate-limited-edition-steelbook-2493121

EDIT: I know that we have 72 characters right now but if we look only at new characters, then Isabelle is 68, meaning 3+ new fighters!

This takes place prior to Isabelle. Thus, the 71 characters in that scenario. Nothing to see here.

 

[SoopahSanikMoo]

Soooo... Anyone hoping for a Direct in at the very least Late October?

 

[domriver]

Soooo... Anyone hoping for a Direct in at the very least Late October?

I am. 2 reasons why it should be in October and NOT in Nov. 1. Game ships - legit leaks WILL happen. 2. A direct in Nov for smash will overtake the POKEMON LETS GO Eevee/PIkachu thingy. Nov should all be about Pokemon. Im hoping for something for in October. First possible announcement is @ 7AM PST on 10/15/18. So lets just wait and see ! :D

 

[Mr Gentleman]

I am. 2 reasons why it should be in October and NOT in Nov. 1. Game ships - legit leaks WILL happen. 2. A direct in Nov for smash will overtake the POKEMON LETS GO Eevee/PIkachu thingy. Nov should all be about Pokemon. Im hoping for something for in October. First possible announcement is @ 7AM PST on 10/15/18. So lets just wait and see ! :D

oh good point. don't want the news to be circling around smash again during pokemon's release. it would be better to get it all out there, let the hype have it's time. and then let people focus on pokemon. as well as get it out before major distribution happens. I mean I think people are overestimated how soon review copies go out. it's also possible they won't send out early review copies. but something could leak during the manufacturing of the disks and various other promotional gear. so probably need to have that final direct come soonish.

 

[ForsakenM]

So I've been thinking about how many characters we could possibly have left, and one thing that keeps sticking in my mind is that Smashdown should have a number of characters that is evenly divisible between two, three and four players. Now many people thought this meant we would get 72 characters, but I believe echos count as separate characters in the mode as if I remember correctly it shows Peach available even though Daisy has been picked already. This means that as far as Smashdown is concerned we already have a perfectly divisible amount of fighters...but we haven't seen all the fighters yet.

Thus I would like to propose some speculation (a new theory, perhaps?), based on information we've gotten so far: I think we will have 84 fighters at launch, echoes included. This may sound ludicrous, but hear me out.

Spoiler: Arguments For Getting 12 More Characters

-84 is the next number up that is perfectly divisible by two, three and four. Next one past that is 96.
-Wouldn't it
-Sakurai said we are slowing down on character reveals, so with this much time left, I doubt we would get 24 more character announcements. 12 could still be reasonable in the amount of time we have left, especially if the character split favors echos as her has shown before that he will dump multiple echo reveals on us at a time.
-12 more characters would make it a total of 21 with echos included (matching the number of newcomers in Smash 4), but if you look at just unique characters and ASSUMING that the character split is an even 6 unique/6 echos, that comes out to just 11 newcomers (which is three less than the number of newcomers in Melee). In that light, Sakurai wouldn't technically be going against his word with 'don't expect to many new characters.'
-This works with or without CoroCoro...I'll elaborate: If CoroCoro is correct (which is likely) then we are only getting five more stages, and out of 12 more characters and once again ASSUMING an even 6/6 split and knowing that characters can come without a stage (no echos have come with a stage on their own, Ridley, K.Rool and Isabelle did not come with stages) it could work just fine. If the 12 character split isn't even and/or we get stages that are not tied to a character, it still works fine. Now, if CoroCoro is somehow WRONG and we get less or more stages this still works for the above reasons but ALSO because everyone just assumed the last blank stage space would be saved for a button for custom stages or DLC, but it could easily be another stage that could either be tied to another character or not. I bring this up because a button could easily be put elsewhere as seen before with Smash 4 and it is entirely possible that all our new stages will be tied to a character.
-This checks out with Vergeben, considering he's only pointed at 3 characters, one of which is an echo and that the MC representation hasn't been determined on exactly how it will be represented. So far all 3rd party characters have come with a stage and every Smash has gotten a new Pokemon stage, so at most we are looking at 3 uniques (SE Rep, Incineroar and possible Steve), 1 echo (Ken), and 3 stages (SE Rep stage, new Pokemon stage, possible MC stage regardless of Steve). That leaves us with minimum two stages unaccounted for, which I highly doubt both will be untied to a character.
-This works out from marketing standpoint. Think about this for a moment: Sakurai is advertising this as 'Ultimate', as 'Everyone Is Here!', like this is the biggest Smash that has ever been or ever will be and that 'Everyone Is Here!' includes not only fighters we have lost in the past and all our current ones, but also those we have asked for for over a decade. He has the Brawl polls, he has the Smash Ballot, and he KNOWS what we want...so how much sense does it make to end with a Pokemon reveal that we all expect but aren't super excited for, and echo we all expect but aren't super excited for, and one possible major reveal that could either make us lose our mind or piss us off (Geno or any SE rep that isn't Geno, DX) and then just end it there with three more stage drops and info on the single player mode? It really doesn't make sense, because that would mean Sakurai would be ignoring the fans who've cried out for Issac or BWD or B&K or Rayman for YEARS when he took the time to make this game as perfect and amazing as he possibly can. Go back and look at the hard work that has been done on remaking Melee stages and putting in tons of options and game modes and accepting the competitive side of the game and implementing things towards that side without taking away from the casual fun...look at how badass the characters and stages are (as per usual, but still that takes a lot of work) and how he has so far seemingly listened to everything we've ever said. Now, how much sense would it make to drop off hard here after the hype train has been going so hard that we are here in real time dying for more information and clawing at every source we find regardless of credibility? It makes no sense at all.
-It works out from a community standpoint. Having a maximum of 6 newcomers would mean likely getting all the highly requested character us older fans have asked for and still having room for odd picks or modern fans plus a pool of echos to sprinkle about and please everyone. It would be the ideal scenario, the Ultimate Holy Land, where no older fan picks are cut and Issac and fight alongside Geno and the bear and bird make an equally epic comeback. As much as it sounds ridiculous, it can also be completely possible.

Honestly, I feel the only issue here is time when considering what Sakurai has said thus far, but he could just be pulling our leg as always.

I suppose time will tell, but I think I may be on to something guys.

 

[Hot_N_Tasty]

So I've been thinking about how many characters we could possibly have left, and one thing that keeps sticking in my mind is that Smashdown should have a number of characters that is evenly divisible between two, three and four players. Now many people thought this meant we would get 72 characters, but I believe echos count as separate characters in the mode as if I remember correctly it shows Peach available even though Daisy has been picked already. This means that as far as Smashdown is concerned we already have a perfectly divisible amount of fighters...but we haven't seen all the fighters yet.

Thus I would like to propose some speculation (a new theory, perhaps?), based on information we've gotten so far: I think we will have 84 fighters at launch, echoes included. This may sound ludicrous, but hear me out.

Spoiler: Arguments For Getting 12 More Characters

-84 is the next number up that is perfectly divisible by two, three and four. Next one past that is 96.
-Wouldn't it
-Sakurai said we are slowing down on character reveals, so with this much time left, I doubt we would get 24 more character announcements. 12 could still be reasonable in the amount of time we have left, especially if the character split favors echos as her has shown before that he will dump multiple echo reveals on us at a time.
-12 more characters would make it a total of 21 with echos included (matching the number of newcomers in Smash 4), but if you look at just unique characters and ASSUMING that the character split is an even 6 unique/6 echos, that comes out to just 11 newcomers (which is three less than the number of newcomers in Melee). In that light, Sakurai wouldn't technically be going against his word with 'don't expect to many new characters.'
-This works with or without CoroCoro...I'll elaborate: If CoroCoro is correct (which is likely) then we are only getting five more stages, and out of 12 more characters and once again ASSUMING an even 6/6 split and knowing that characters can come without a stage (no echos have come with a stage on their own, Ridley, K.Rool and Isabelle did not come with stages) it could work just fine. If the 12 character split isn't even and/or we get stages that are not tied to a character, it still works fine. Now, if CoroCoro is somehow WRONG and we get less or more stages this still works for the above reasons but ALSO because everyone just assumed the last blank stage space would be saved for a button for custom stages or DLC, but it could easily be another stage that could either be tied to another character or not. I bring this up because a button could easily be put elsewhere as seen before with Smash 4 and it is entirely possible that all our new stages will be tied to a character.
-This checks out with Vergeben, considering he's only pointed at 3 characters, one of which is an echo and that the MC representation hasn't been determined on exactly how it will be represented. So far all 3rd party characters have come with a stage and every Smash has gotten a new Pokemon stage, so at most we are looking at 3 uniques (SE Rep, Incineroar and possible Steve), 1 echo (Ken), and 3 stages (SE Rep stage, new Pokemon stage, possible MC stage regardless of Steve). That leaves us with minimum two stages unaccounted for, which I highly doubt both will be untied to a character.
-This works out from marketing standpoint. Think about this for a moment: Sakurai is advertising this as 'Ultimate', as 'Everyone Is Here!', like this is the biggest Smash that has ever been or ever will be and that 'Everyone Is Here!' includes not only fighters we have lost in the past and all our current ones, but also those we have asked for for over a decade. He has the Brawl polls, he has the Smash Ballot, and he KNOWS what we want...so how much sense does it make to end with a Pokemon reveal that we all expect but aren't super excited for, and echo we all expect but aren't super excited for, and one possible major reveal that could either make us lose our mind or piss us off (Geno or any SE rep that isn't Geno, DX) and then just end it there with three more stage drops and info on the single player mode? It really doesn't make sense, because that would mean Sakurai would be ignoring the fans who've cried out for Issac or BWD or B&K or Rayman for YEARS when he took the time to make this game as perfect and amazing as he possibly can. Go back and look at the hard work that has been done on remaking Melee stages and putting in tons of options and game modes and accepting the competitive side of the game and implementing things towards that side without taking away from the casual fun...look at how badass the characters and stages are (as per usual, but still that takes a lot of work) and how he has so far seemingly listened to everything we've ever said. Now, how much sense would it make to drop off hard here after the hype train has been going so hard that we are here in real time dying for more information and clawing at every source we find regardless of credibility? It makes no sense at all.
-It works out from a community standpoint. Having a maximum of 6 newcomers would mean likely getting all the highly requested character us older fans have asked for and still having room for odd picks or modern fans plus a pool of echos to sprinkle about and please everyone. It would be the ideal scenario, the Ultimate Holy Land, where no older fan picks are cut and Issac and fight alongside Geno and the bear and bird make an equally epic comeback. As much as it sounds ridiculous, it can also be completely possible.

Honestly, I feel the only issue here is time when considering what Sakurai has said thus far, but he could just be pulling our leg as always.

I suppose time will tell, but I think I may be on to something guys.

I think 12 (minus Ken, Inceroar, Ken, w/ one or two more surprised, and hopefully, geno) would be a reasonable number after DLC, but I struggle to imagine getting 12 reveals in two months with the way they have been handled thus far.

 

[ForsakenM]

I think 12 (minus Ken, Inceroar, Ken, w/ one or two more surprised, and hopefully, geno) would be a reasonable number after DLC, but I struggle to imagine getting 12 reveals in two months with the way they have been handled thus far.

So I feel you on a final roster, post-DLC of 84 characters but...what is the point of having Smashdown as a playable mode if it doesn't divide evenly? Would you be suggesting that Smashdown won't be playable until after DLC? That would be fine, but then why show it off on the August Direct if it's not a base game feature?

That's my biggest issue: Sakurai is not a dummy, and thus I think he's holding out on us.

 

[Mr Gentleman]

Also do we actually know if smash down can be played with 8 players or not? how does that effect the division? because we saw there is not a designated 8 player mode anymore. I mean I don't see them limiting smash down from being played with 8 players. all it effects is character choice

 

[EricTheGamerman]

The only way to have SmashDown work is to either eliminate the lowest placing people when the roster dries up, or allow anyone for the final round if the characters are used up. The game has to accommodate you not having every character unlocked and eventual DLC. So trying to predict anything out of it is completely unreasonable in my mind. The compromise is definitely going to be for the mode itself and it’s mechanics, not hitting some arbitrary number to make the mode work perfectly for 2,3, and 4 Fighters. I doubt Sakurai even had the mode conceived of that seriously when he selected characters first like always

 

[Mr Gentleman]

The only way to have SmashDown work is to either eliminate the lowest placing people when the roster dries up, or allow anyone for the final round if the characters are used up. The game has to accommodate you not having every character unlocked and eventual DLC. So trying to predict anything out of it is completely unreasonable in my mind. The compromise is definitely going to be for the mode itself and it’s mechanics, not hitting some arbitrary number to make the mode work perfectly for 2,3, and 4 Fighters. I doubt Sakurai even had the mode conceived of that seriously when he selected characters first like always

exactly. the entirety of smash ultimate and it's cast isn't revolved around this one mode. and with how they decide on the cast early on the final roster was most likely finalized long before smash down was even a thing.

 

[PhilosophicAnimal]

I'm not inclined to think Smashdown has any bearing on the total number of fighters, because of how the characters are unlocked. You start with the original 8--so is the mode going to be completely unavailable to play once you unlock a single additional character, and stay unplayable until you hit the next divisible number of fighters?

Nah, it wouldn't make sense to make a mode you can only play some of the time, especially when it's a competitive multiplayer mode (unlike All Star.) Additionally, we've seen the Smashdown screen working without the full roster, so we know it's not an All Star situation, where you must unlock everyone first.

Most likely, you'll simply be prompted to remove a few characters if the numbers are uneven. Makes more sense to have control over the total character pool anyhow.

 

[ForsakenM]

I'm not inclined to think Smashdown has any bearing on the total number of fighters, because of how the characters are unlocked. You start with the original 8--so is the mode going to be completely unavailable to play once you unlock a single additional character, and stay unplayable until you hit the next divisible number of fighters?

Nah, it wouldn't make sense to make a mode you can only play some of the time, especially when it's a competitive multiplayer mode (unlike All Star.) Additionally, we've seen the Smashdown screen working without the full roster, so we know it's not an All Star situation, where you must unlock everyone first.

Most likely, you'll simply be prompted to remove a few characters if the numbers are uneven. Makes more sense to have control over the total character pool anyhow.

Fair enough, but that seems like a really odd design choice frankly.

I still think we are getting more newcomers than people are thinking though. I wouldn't be surprised if we did get 12 more characters, but we are at least getting 6. There is no way so many fan favorites don't make the cut.