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It’s funny how a “One off side character” is polling really well compared to popular and iconic characters. LolWell guys, last night I had a dream that Geno was in fact confirmed for Smash. I remember consistently not believing it and being like "this is all a dream, it's too good to be true". Then I woke up, and of course, Geno is still not in Smash.
Definitely 2. A few fan requests here and there are cool but I'd rather have some more surprise characters in the same vein as Terry
All I want from Kirby is Magolor. I'll take BWD and/or Marx cuz they'd be unique and please some fans too tho. As for Zelda, yeah it doesn't have major recurring characters but it does have major characters. I agree that a game with such an incredible legacy should get more representation in spite of that though. Honestly, at this point though I think it's fair to say that FE is achieving the same kind of legendary status and also deserves as much representation as it gets (remember that it has always been pretty popular in Japan). As for who I'd want from Zelda, I think Midna with or without wolf Link would be great, the champions in a Pokemon Trainer style would be awesome (and with BotW 2 coming they could be recurring characters maybe?), and for generic enemies I like the Shadow Beasts and basically I'll take anything other than "specific Links Awakening Link" or something like that.
Originality definitely. I've spoken up with my hot takes before about how similar so many characters we already have are, I really think there needs to be more moveset variety in the game.
i have a neutral stance for both of these questions at this point, but i would go for the latter for Geno's Sake.
Originality. A few of the first category would be good, too, for those delicious fan requests, but I love original movesets that bring new stuff to the table. As long as it isn't something like Corrin, we're good.
This x1000. The only reason I could see Lloyd as a possibly interesting swordie is because they could do some super cool stuff with his dual-wielding sword style that the others can't. I'm imagining the attack speed of metaknight but with higher damage output. Maybe some insane combo potential at the sacrifice of some reach. Even better, I think Isaac would have been the absolute perfect type of swordie. He could use his sword for normal attacks but have an incredible arsenal of psynergy to control the field.
Lloyd uses average sized swords though iirc so I don't really see why he would sacrifice range. It's great to be balanced but not at the cost of your moves making sense.
Wow, that's a really cool idea for Isaac/Felix. As for Lloyd, I didn't mean to say that his range would be trash. I'm just saying that he shouldn't have Shulk/Cloud amounts of reach for how fast he could be. When it comes to swordies, more reach and power usually comes at the cost of combo potential. I'd rather he have high combo potential, but that's just me.
Bandana Dee is so loved, even by corporate folks. I know he's a HUGE deal in Japan, too. While I don't think he'll get in Ultimate with the amount of third party focus going on, he has no shortage of affection from the world, which is a great thing. At the very least, he's got a whole lot of love both in and out of the industry, something that Geno hasn't had in many years (in terms of within the industry, he has a lot of fans outside of it).
They could make him DLC. From what I understand dataminers found ten empty spots they attribute to future DLC so there's no reason they couldn't make him playable.
As much as I'd love to see more than a couple of first parties in the mix, I personally feel cynical about it. That said, it is definitely a possibility, don't get me wrong. I'm just not expecting it.
Sadly I feel exactly the same with how the Fighters Pass was made and currently is there's only 3rd parties and with everything that Sakurai and the NoJ president has said recently (paraphrasing but something like: "Smash is the biggest collaborative title and we'd like to see it continue to be") I feel like they won't change that at best they'll tweak it a bit to give more room for 1-2 First parties but that's all I feel.
Ha, I just responded to that in newcomer speculation! I'll cross-post my theory-crafting here, too, since I feel that it is rather logical. It's a little more of 'how Geno's spirit made it' rather than anything for his chances, since that's more slippery slope territory, but it's an observation I wouldn't discount.
Depends on if there was anything else being decided upon with Square Enix at the time, otherwise I would say that the "move" (since it hasn't been officially confirmed and is still speculative in nature) doesn't really effect Geno.
Nintendo and Square werent cool during Brawl, and Square probably wanted to get their flagship mascot in Smash (Cloud) first before anyone else. DLC was limited in Smash 4 when it came to new characters.
Because they made Melee in 4 minutes thanks to programmer legend Iwata, and there's only been 5 games?
I've never heard of a Dojo poll, but there was an official Smash 2 poll (so Melee before it was Melee lol) where Geno AND Mallow ranked, an internal poll. It's the only one with public results that I'm aware of. People at Nintendo and presumably elsewhere have wanted Geno since after Smash 64, much like Banjo. It's just that Brawl was the time that he really exploded in popularity.
We are likely thinking of the same poll. I know the results were hanging out in 2006 so that's its official age to me, if it was around before, wow.
Can't say I'm sure since characters that made it into Melee (Bowser, Ice Climbers) were in that poll. It was definitely for Melee, so it's quite an old batch of results, and again, it was an internal poll.
The one I'm referring to was posted here on Smashboards all those eons ago and had characters like Lucas and Olimar on it, so realistically it couldn't have existed before Melee.
How I could I forget the Dojo? Weird that speculation has almost become more anarchic since the early days. That's what hope does to people, I suppose.
I personally love how Smash speculation has gone from the innocent days of "boy I hope they throw in [character]!" to full on troll campaigns with absurd memes, fan groups, etc. I wouldn't trade in the laughs I've had since Brawl's launch for the world.
Yeah to hear Sakurai tell it these guys were ready to work to help see Hero come to Smash in a really well represented way. When he first got announced, I was pretty angry about it not being Geno, as if we were getting robbed, but I've kind of come out of that. I hope Dragon Quest XI does well on the Switch as a way to tell Square they're where they belong.
I'm actually of the opinion that Sakurai only considered Geno for Brawl, and not Smash 4. In the popular interview that is often quoted, Sakurai says he 'wanted Geno as a character', but it's never expanded upon if he means he wanted Geno for Brawl, which is something that we already knew, or if he wanted Geno for Smash 4. I'm not sure if it's rendered unclear in the translation or if he was just as vague in Japanese, but I'll take the conservative approach and say he meant he wanted Geno for Brawl.
It interests me a lot that SE initially suggested Slime to be the DQ character. Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't this the second time Square Enix has suggested a specific character to represent one of their franchises in Smash, but Sakurai went against it and they were completely okay with his decision? I swear, if this doesn't kill the "SE is literally Satan" myth for good, nothing will.
Not sure why it would matter. The important fact from the interview is that Sakurai likes Geno, thinks he would work well in Smash, and wanted him once.
Inb4 SE offers Mallow to Sakurai, since he's the first character recruited in SMRPG, but Sakurai goes against that to ask for Geno and SE is okay with that.
Sakurai: I'm thinking Super Mario RPG.
