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I suppose.
peopl,e do freaking overreact, smash community is the worst at that. Still not good to make fun of them
I mean I wouldn't go that far. I think people just prefer to get reps from games they're fans of. I don't see why it's sacrilege to not be super hyped for literally every character just because they were chosen to be in Smash.
Take some weight off it
Haha! That made me laugh! My favorite kind of puns: the light-hearted kind!Take some weight off it
Based on the theming, probably not. Number 5 isn't confirmed but all evidence is currently pointing to, like I said, Sakurai's personal picks to not only celebrate video game history but to also work with franchises or companies he's always wanted to work with. As they say, hindsight is 20/20 and we kind of saw evidence of this as far back as Piranha Plant. This is more "Sakurai's pass" than the fans which is why I'm thinking fan picks will be coming later either as individual DLC or even as other passes.
I'm... Not sure I'd exactly call Terry/his game iconic/a titan. Been talking to friends about this whole thing all day, and none of them knew who Terry was, neither did most of their friends they've talked to about it. Most of them didn't even know SNK, and the ones that did only knew them for Metal Slug. And personally, I only knew Terry from that Heroines game, and knew Metal Slug but didn't know it was SNK. I'd say the only legit "iconic" characters we've gotten in Ultimate are Simon/Richter, and Hero. Maybe Banjo too. Don't get me wrong though, I'm not saying someone has to be absolutely iconic to be in, or to be a good choice. I'm saying this as one of the biggest Joker fans out there. I just think you're blowing it out of proportions a bit here.
So what you're saying is this DLC season was kind of buttering Sakurai up to the idea of DLC and practice of DLC and then they could potentially go forward with more DLC plans which may include fan favorites and other interesting characters? I can kind of buy that and entertain the idea.
My personal theory of there being a second fighter pass with 1st party (slash series already in) characters, coming with echos instead of stages? The stage list seems pretty much full unless they resize it, so I think the most likely thing is that after this we're not getting any more new series for DLC. The rest of the DLC would have to be okay with not taking a stage, and then to keep the price of the second pass the same as the first one, they'd bundle in echo fighters instead. A lot of the more highly requested characters still around don't need a stage. (Geno could have a stage obviously, but he doesn't need one. Then there's Dixie Kong, Bandana Dee, Pokemon reps, Zelda reps, etc etc.)
Unless the other passes aren't 5 characters, maybe less.
That's just a lack of culture tbh
At this point then I'm really hoping Geno gets in for the next pass or bonus DLC or whatever it is, and the elephant in the room is that his major competition is the only other SE character that has been as highly requested which is Sora. I know some people have completely disregarded Sora as possible, but as far as fan demand goes (if that is the metric by which the next pass happens) Nintendo and SE will have obviously seen the huge amount of vocal KH fans that wanted him in the FP. If people want Geno in this game they really need to be loud about it.
It would be super lame to just drop all third parties and surprises though. Like I'm obviously all for some upgrades, but I don't know if we should go all in on a themed pass like that when there's also absolutely amazing options outside of the upgrades that people really like (Sora, Crash, etc.).
Well, even with the best case scenario, I still think we'll end up very close to the February 2020 deadline. If Banjo & Kazooie really do release in the next two weeks, it will throw me for a bit of a loop (primarily because Fall 2019 was blatantly incorrect since that doesn't start until September 22), but it's also worth examining the fact that a Terry Bogard reveal this week would still put us pretty far out from his reveal. The shortest amount of time thus far was a month and a half for Hero's reveal to their release. That would put in early November for his actual release and then we would need some sort of event to announce the final character. Assuming this character shows up before The Game Awards (which I'm still leaning towards that happening again), you'd still be waiting for probably another month a half to get to the last character in early-mid January depending on that reveal. Sure, that's slightly ahead of their deadline, but I do think that overall we'll see them come pretty close to said deadline.
How much of this optimism towards a second Fighter's Pass is based on things known to the public like those slots, and how much of it relates to your insider information?
It certainly would be, wouldn't it?
yeah she said that because of a 4chan leak that had both Terry and Ryu, with her previous tweets regarding it being why I mentioned her seeming to make fun of the community.
I think the chances are decent. Since Sabi went ahead and flat out said it, rumors are currently pointing at Ryu being #5 and, personally, I think that it will go over as well as a dead fish dropped on someone's doormat. Ninja Gaiden has a lot of history and Toei/Team Ninja have been friends with Nintendo forever so it makes sense as a Sakurai pick... not so much as a fan pick (doesn't help that there's already multiple ninja characters already), meaning that essentially 4 of the 5 were chosen under the previous criteria. He's also not exactly a great character to finish off the pass with if this was truly the end.
Tbh something's a little suspicious when she called out one specific 4chan leak with Terry on it when there were several supposed DLC leaks with his name on them as well. Why draw attention to that specific one unless she heard that the trailer was going to match up with the leak description plus also hearing things about Ryu?
Hype Responsibly
Yeah it's funny that most people originally took his comments to mean greedy Nintendo of Japan was just going to fill the pass with non-spirit first-party shill characters like Corrin when in reality it's because most of them were non-demanded characters that Sakurai himself wanted in for personal reasons. I honestly wonder if Nintendo is going to take into account the fan reactions to Hero and Terry to then announce a second FP with whatever direct or trailer announces Ryu or whoever character 5 ends up being. It honestly wouldn't even surprise me if there is a second and/or third fighter pass for the characters to have already been chosen. I could see Nintendo doing another big drawn out reveal season or announcing all the second pass characters in one huge CGI trailer to generate hype and get more people to purchase a full second FP.
It also doesn't seem like Sakurai to drop just a massive hint in a trailer when none of the fighter pass characters have had a hint towards a future release. And why would it be Ryu he would want to hint at?
It's pretty much guarenteed that the SNK rep is Terry from KoF. Every insider from Verge to Seb is doubling down on him.
Unless i am mistaken, right now how the stage selection screen works, agter the 5 fighters pass stages, there is 1 more button left, that could be an more stages buttpn like for wii u. I dont see all the other season characters getting more stages, and those who dont may bring an echo instead(like rex and pyra may not get a stage, but they may bring a bonus Medusa echo for palutena or something.) Some new franchise characters like shantae may bring a stage, but geno is up in the air if he would.
I am in the boat that nobody knows the 5th character this early, and we wont start getting legitimate rumors till december.
Anecdotal evidence ain't it chief. Just because you don't dabble in other fighting games, nor does your friend circle, doesn't mean it's not big.
From what Sabi explained I think her reasoning on people assuming it's Ryu is coming from that 4chan post. But my feeling is that multiple people have doubled down on both Ryu and Terry and this was her way of revealing that without hard confirming it due to the potential legal ramifications. I don't think anything is gonna hint at Ryu in the Terry trailer.
I’m happy for all the Terry and Ryu fans if this turns out true, but personally I’m not a fan of KoF or Ninja Gaiden. I still hope that Geno is a bonus though.
Thanks! I am pretty cool
I still don't see any proper proof on why people think its Ryu outside a 4chan post and he is from the last major japanese dev not in smash yet.
Almost like I have a C&D, and even said that this info came from somebody who asked me to not outright share it, so I had to wait on somebody else to spill the beans first. I tried giving enough hints to make it obvious. I gotta be real careful
I think the issue is that while SNK has been more influential and a far bigger name in most of the world, it doesn't have the same name recognition as some local western fighting game franchises. In the east it's Terry vs Ryu, in the west it's Scorpion vs Ryu. SNK has a massive influence, and has done more for Fighting game development then most other video game companies.
Well one thing is confirmed, if a character is an Assist Trophy, Mii Costumes or Spirit then they ain't happening in this Fighters Pass. Well at least we got Piranha Plant, that should make the ARMS, Geno, Isaac, Rex, Shadow, Ashley, Waluigi, Chibi Robo, and Dixie fans happy.
— Wynn Memphis, Tennessee (@wynn728) September 3, 2019
Don't worry about it. We understand it isn't easy and we apologize for any additional stress that you may get on the situation. Even if Geno isn't planned for the time being, we can't thank you enough for being as supportive of us and keeping us in the loop as best you can.
"I support Geno! I swear to god! Glad if I'm wrong!" in coming
Sadly I think it's because of their money issues and stuff that happened. After releasing games like every year for YEARS, they took a dive and almost faded away, and it took them a while to come back.
