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After watching the video, it's crazy to think that this was the last time we saw Geno in 1996 (not including his cameo in Superstar Saga) and here we are in 2019 where Geno is still a subject of much discussion and people waiting for him to return.
Honestly, Shovel Knight would be one of the easiest to do that with, since you could swap his model with Black Knight since their body shapes are identical. The only exception would be that they would almost 100% need to give Black Knight his trademark 8-bit laugh.
I understand that, of course. It was no doubt a huge honor for him to even be in the game at all, much less playable. I just can't shake how fun it would be had Shovel Knight been playable and Black Knight was the assist trophy, laughing comedically at fighters as Zelgius destroys them. If you know Zelgius, you'll get the joke.
Spring Man has an attack that straight up looks like a Final Smash too...
Good luck saying that to folks who assume "ackshually, AT behavior's not that hard to reprogram". They don't see that the staff just won't feel like wasting devtime on those when that can be saved for other characters in the meantime.
Can I just say, that would be a really weird choice when it comes to costumes. He would fit the Swordsman, but Boomer is probably the most overlooked member of the Smithy Gang by a wide margin.Hey guys, so I know this is PURE speculation, but I just wanted to brings a couple of things up.
First, ya boi Dooliss brought up something interesting in chat during my stream. There is a certain basic Mii Costume that did not get brought back for Ultimate, and that is:
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Yep, randomly the Samurai Mii Costume for Mii Swordsman is missing, and we haven't had any sort of replacement that really fits it. But, you know what could replace it and make sense?
So...how crazy would it be if we got a Boomer Mii Costume.![]()
Also, if you are looking for possible dates, I would suggest looking towards either the new Nintendo tournament in August (which I highly doubt but it's there) or the tournament event in October that could show us something. Other than that, I have no idea other than to hurry up and wait and obviously the easy calls like a Fall Direct and a VGA announcement.
That's honestly kind of a stretch. If Sakurai wanted some SMRPG-themed costumes, he'd probably aim for characters like Exor, Smithy and the Axem Rangers, not this guy.Hey guys, so I know this is PURE speculation, but I just wanted to brings a couple of things up.
First, ya boi Dooliss brought up something interesting in chat during my stream. There is a certain basic Mii Costume that did not get brought back for Ultimate, and that is:
![]()
Yep, randomly the Samurai Mii Costume for Mii Swordsman is missing, and we haven't had any sort of replacement that really fits it. But, you know what could replace it and make sense?
So...how crazy would it be if we got a Boomer Mii Costume.![]()
Also, if you are looking for possible dates, I would suggest looking towards either the new Nintendo tournament in August (which I highly doubt but it's there) or the tournament event in October that could show us something. Other than that, I have no idea other than to hurry up and wait and obviously the easy calls like a Fall Direct and a VGA announcement.
I don't think ATs will get promoted, but it's not like it would be difficult programming-wise to just disable that specific summon if the character is in play.
Or they could use similar characters with the same powers and just swap models with them. Shovel Knight, Shadow, and Springman all fall under that category.
Personally, I disagree. ATs have a built in on and off switch, they even use them for characters like Knuckles and The Moon as they can't be used on certain stages where they already appear in the background (Many other ATs get disabled for similar reasons too, and this is the first Smash game to do this).
The game was younger than what New Super Mario Bros is to now.
I remember that cause I was there but there's something else to consider and that's why they even believe this at all. Earlier last year before K. Rool was confirmed the people over in that thread mentioned how apparently Bowser Jr's Cannonball was changed from Smash 4 to make way for K. Rool's Blunderbuss which as you can see may have actually the case:Hey guys, so I know this is PURE speculation, but I just wanted to brings a couple of things up.
First, ya boi Dooliss brought up something interesting in chat during my stream. There is a certain basic Mii Costume that did not get brought back for Ultimate, and that is:
![]()
Yep, randomly the Samurai Mii Costume for Mii Swordsman is missing, and we haven't had any sort of replacement that really fits it. But, you know what could replace it and make sense?
So...how crazy would it be if we got a Boomer Mii Costume.![]()
Also, if you are looking for possible dates, I would suggest looking towards either the new Nintendo tournament in August (which I highly doubt but it's there) or the tournament event in October that could show us something. Other than that, I have no idea other than to hurry up and wait and obviously the easy calls like a Fall Direct and a VGA announcement.
There's no telling if Geno is a DLC Fighter in the Fighters Pass or not, so it's a little too early to say Spirits are fair game. Also none of the Assist Trophies are part of the current Fighters Pass so it's not suspicious at all.
And we can control all of are guys...? Settle it in a PM my dude. I know who you are talking about and they do not certainly speak for all of us. You will find a lot of chill people here. I for one, think Sora would be pretty neat.
Well the thing is that the devs did waste their time by making those 59 Assist Trophies. They all suck and it gives no real fan service to the ones who likes that character. I wish they literally worked on nothing amd just spend that time sipping martinis instead of making 15 second puppet shows of these characters.
Well at least you don't sound bitter about it.
I rather like the assists, especially now that you can fight them off. Makes them feel more interactive.
Okay thanks that doesn't really have anything to do with the rest of us though
Yes I would be quite pleased with that
I literally think Sakurai would have out done himself if he managed to get something like this set up.
I believe most people turn Assist Trophies & Smash Balls off. Assist Trophies are just a bad mechanic that had no real evolution or improvement. Why can't we select who can assist us? Why are there Assist Trophies that can hurt the one who summons them? Why can't I choose when to summon them? Why do I have to summon them immediately when I pick them up? Why is everything about Assist Trophy take control away from the player in this RNG mess?
Well, to be fair, the original intent for Smash Bros in itself if an RNG mess so Assist Trophies do their job flawlessly.
But RNG isn't fun in Smash Bros. Most people complain about RNG in Smash Bros. There's a good reason why tripping never came back.
But that wasn't something you could turn off. I personally find plenty of fun in RNG, especially when it comes to parties. And Hero just seems to be a fun bag of tricks, and he is really RNG.
Thing is, that restriction would be very subjective, especially for someone like Sakurai. That man can make anything playable when he puts his mind to it, at least when it comes to making a moveset.
There's also a reason modes keep getting pared down and the quantity of ATs and other items keep increasing. Now with more functionality than ever and additional money spent licensing third-parties. People who play with items may not make up the majority of this audience, but this audience doesn't make up Smash's majority.
Here's the thing, if they weren't planning on adding Geno as a fighter, why would they omit his Mii Costume? They knew it was popular, so why not just add it in the Hero update and get it over with? If Hero were to be the only Square-Enix character in the DLC, Geno's costume absolutely SHOULD HAVE been released with the other Mii costumes in the Square-Enix section. It's literally free money for Square Enix, and was also something they said "yes" to before.With all the stuff going on, I’m still confident about that Geno is coming as a fighter. I don’t think all of these are mere coincidence, so here are THE TOP 15 REASONS WHY GENO WILL BE PLAYABLE:
1) Lack of Mii costume.
2) Forest Maze & Armed Boss copyrighted by Nintendo. The same amount of Square songs for Cloud + each of the Heroes. Plus, probably the most iconic songs to represent Geno, if you have to choose one iconic for him, and one for battles.
3) The Starling (just a theory, but it adds up).
4) The extra Slot in the Stage Select Screen.
5) The extra Slot in the Sound Section.
6) The first Bonus was Piranha Plant. The second and probably last Bonus could be Geno. Both from Mario Universe. The Bonus DLC even have their own section in the Smash Page, I don’t believe they put it just to have the Plant there. Also Geno fits in this concept cause he is very long requested and loved, but not the type of character like maybe Crash or Doomguy that could fit and sell better in the Fighter Pass.
7) Fans have been heard and pleased. Of course with Sonic, Mega Man, Pac-Man, Ryu, Bayonetta, Cloud, Snake, Joker and Simon (they even put Richter to satisfy both sides of the world). But speaking of long-terms + current scenario, fans have been 100% heard with Ridley, KKK and Banjo. 3/4 of “forgotten and impossible characters” that are playable now, only missing Geno.
8) Even Sakurai acknowledges Geno. So we aren’t talking just for talking. Beloved and unique character with a gun in his arm; perfectly fitting Smash’s style.
9) Geno has his own and unique Splash-Art even as a Mii costume.
10) Inkling, Chrom, KKK and Isabelle were from being costumes in Smash Wii U to being fighters in Ultimate, only missing Geno again.
11) What a better way to conclude the DLC (Fighter Pass or Bonus) with the most requested character by now, and finish this Two Decades Fan Demand with him.
12) If I remember well, Sakurai said something like that the Next Smash could perfectly be in ten years more. I think it’s the exact time for this Smash to last longer than it predecessors, which were: 1999-2001-2008-2014. With that being said, Geno in 2020 (where he should be playable) will be 24 years since his 1996 birth.
13) You have so many ideas to make Geno’s Reveal Trailer: Toys style like the Smash 64 intro; Mario-Peach-Bowser acting with Geno; or even starring Kirby and Rosalina for the Star concepts.
14) Geno has been evolving. Since Melee he was top in the polls; in Brawl he was an idea that escaped Sakurai’s hands; in Wii U he was a Mii costume; and in Ultimate he is “a Spirit”. He is also acknowledged in a way by the Megasmilax reference. If you ask me, Nintendo already have the permission and now, finally, it’s in Sakurai’s hands. He is just waiting for the perfect moment to reveal it, probably in the DLC #4 or #5 reveals, or maybe after it to finish the roster.
15) “A Spirit” that will come to life in Ultimate, after it possesses our wooden puppet doll.
*TOP 15 REASONS leak by QQS.
**English is not my native language.
***Just keep the faith and be patience.
There is a difference between Assist Trophies & Pokeball. Sure it's all RNG, but when I throw a Pokeball I know that whatever comes out it's not really going to hurt me (unless it's Electrode and I get too close). With Assist Trophies there's a good chance they can harm me like Nightmare, Skull Kid, Nintendogs, Squid Sisters and other ones that I can't really remember at this moment. Needless to say when using an Assist Trophy it can bite you in the ass. Also with Pokeball I'm in control of it. I get to choose when and where I summon it. If I want I can throw it off a cliff, throw it at my opponent for extra damage, or throw it at my feet to summon them immediately. It's not that many options but it's more than what Assist Trophies gives me. The worst one to get is Goldeen that does nothing while the worst Assist Trophy you can get turns the entire screen black. Also seeing how Master Balls are an item you're guarentee something great from that one.
Or many the costume is getting added in later along with the others. There was no Virtua Fighter Mii Costume when Joker was release despite Akira being an Assist Trophy and being a SEGA franchise just like Sonic and Persona.
Dude I know you said English is not your native language, but you spelled KKR aka King K. Rool as KKK. You should edit that not trying to be mean, but it's the name of a racist group.With all the stuff going on, I’m still confident about that Geno is coming as a fighter. I don’t think all of these are mere coincidence, so here are THE TOP 15 REASONS WHY GENO WILL BE PLAYABLE:
1) Lack of Mii costume.
2) Forest Maze & Armed Boss copyrighted by Nintendo. The same amount of Square songs for Cloud + each of the Heroes. Plus, probably the most iconic songs to represent Geno, if you have to choose one iconic for him, and one for battles.
3) The Starling (just a theory, but it adds up).
4) The extra Slot in the Stage Select Screen.
5) The extra Slot in the Sound Section.
6) The first Bonus was Piranha Plant. The second and probably last Bonus could be Geno. Both from Mario Universe. The Bonus DLC even have their own section in the Smash Page, I don’t believe they put it just to have the Plant there. Also Geno fits in this concept cause he is very long requested and loved, but not the type of character like maybe Crash or Doomguy that could fit and sell better in the Fighter Pass.
7) Fans have been heard and pleased. Of course with Sonic, Mega Man, Pac-Man, Ryu, Bayonetta, Cloud, Snake, Joker and Simon (they even put Richter to satisfy both sides of the world). But speaking of long-terms + current scenario, fans have been 100% heard with Ridley, KKK and Banjo. 3/4 of “forgotten and impossible characters” that are playable now, only missing Geno.
8) Even Sakurai acknowledges Geno. So we aren’t talking just for talking. Beloved and unique character with a gun in his arm; perfectly fitting Smash’s style.
9) Geno has his own and unique Splash-Art even as a Mii costume.
10) Inkling, Chrom, KKK and Isabelle were from being costumes in Smash Wii U to being fighters in Ultimate, only missing Geno again.
11) What a better way to conclude the DLC (Fighter Pass or Bonus) with the most requested character by now, and finish this Two Decades Fan Demand with him.
12) If I remember well, Sakurai said something like that the Next Smash could perfectly be in ten years more. I think it’s the exact time for this Smash to last longer than it predecessors, which were: 1999-2001-2008-2014. With that being said, Geno in 2020 (where he should be playable) will be 24 years since his 1996 birth.
13) You have so many ideas to make Geno’s Reveal Trailer: Toys style like the Smash 64 intro; Mario-Peach-Bowser acting with Geno; or even starring Kirby and Rosalina for the Star concepts.
14) Geno has been evolving. Since Melee he was top in the polls; in Brawl he was an idea that escaped Sakurai’s hands; in Wii U he was a Mii costume; and in Ultimate he is “a Spirit”. He is also acknowledged in a way by the Megasmilax reference. If you ask me, Nintendo already have the permission and now, finally, it’s in Sakurai’s hands. He is just waiting for the perfect moment to reveal it, probably in the DLC #4 or #5 reveals, or maybe after it to finish the roster.
15) “A Spirit” that will come to life in Ultimate, after it possesses our wooden puppet doll.
*TOP 15 REASONS leak by QQS.
**English is not my native language.
***Just keep the faith and be patience.
