Geno (♥♪!?): Return of the Starsend Savior

[MissingGlitch]

You might even be able to say... Hero is Here-o?

I'll see myself out.

Yes mods. This post right here.

 

[Sigran101]

Holy **** he's strong. I hesitate to call a character broken on day one, but I just ko'd an opponent at 40% with hatchet man and he ended at 82%. These specials are insane.

 

[SpiritOfRuin]

I just wanted to say that I truly am happy that everybody who has been wanting a DQ rep finally got Wizard Link...I mean the Hero. No but seriously even if that destroyed Geno's chances in this game because they're both from Square Enix I couldn't be happier for DQ fans. Congrats to everyone who has been wanting this or just excited to see this happen even if they're not DQ fans.

And I also wanted to say that y'all are just a fine group of individual humans. I realize there were a lot of these kind of posts prior to learning that Geno did not have a Mii costume in at least this part of the fighter pass and I missed the mark there, but I haven't had this much fun discussing video games (online) ever really. Especially in an environment that's so welcoming and respectful. I know I haven't been active on this thread long but I've been a Geno supporter since Melee and it's awesome to talk to like-minded people and a lot of you have the same dumb sense of humor I do which has made this a really fun ride. That's why I'll definitely be sticking around to make dumb jokes with you guys no matter what happens with our boy Geno. Take care everybody I'll cease to be serious now...or did I ever even start?

 

[CannonStreak]

I played Hero in Classic Mode and he is great! I don't know why some want him banned competitively.

 

[Glitch-EGamer]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxMp_Exue1E

Is Silvagunner a genobro?

Yeah, that's why Geno is in the King for Another Day Tournament

 

[Rapwned]

So, it's been a while.

Is hope back on the menu, lads?

 

[CannonStreak]

So, it's been a while.

Is hope back on the menu, lads?

In a way, yes. We have a Starling picture from Sabi's source and Geno has not appeared as a Mii costume, so far.

 

[Ovaltine]

So, it's been a while.

Is hope back on the menu, lads?

It is, yep! I'm kinda 50/50 on him right now, but it's a huge step up from the 0% chance I felt he had before.

Also, your icon is one of my favorite pieces of Geno art ever. People often overlook how expressive he can be. His laugh cures diseases and waters crops. Every time Geno laughs, an angel gets its wings.

 

[FalconFire93]

Happy for the Dragon Quest fans that wanted Hero, I’ll be trying him out later on, but until then, I’ll be playing MUA3 to level up my favorite characters, Fire Emblem: Three Houses, and Kill la Kill: IF to pass the time.

 

[N3ON]

Since the info drop is probably going to wind up being EVO, I doubt we'll get another hint. I feel like we got two hints for Banjo because he was making fun of Sabi. She didn't believe "Puzzle Witch" meant anything and then literally posted a bear and bird to sort of rub it in. Ironically, she didn't believe that either.

This is the NoA contact, right? I'm rather incredulous Nintendo will drop anything at EVO, but I suppose we'll see.

 

[GenoFlash]

Did anyone post a screencap of the Discord post by Sabi's source? Anyone? Fatmanonice ?

 

[valkiriforce]

Things are definitely looking up since Geno's costume is missing in action. Our boy will come back someday.

 

[Dynamic Worlok]

I just wanted to say that I will not be purchasing hero...

Spoiler

until thursday, as that's when I get paid. I'm looking forward to trying him out

 

[Deleted member]

The time is finally upon us!

 

[Ovaltine]

The time is finally upon us!

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Munchie is just so happy to be here.

 

[Deleted member]

And lol, the Ultimate Social Thread did not bother to tag me at all!

Totally expected, but at least the people here did care about me.

 

[Deleted member]

The time is finally upon us!

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Congrats on getting your dude! What do you think of him? Cause I hope you're enjoying the dude.

 

[Zinith]

And lol, the Ultimate Social Thread did not bother to tag me at all!

Totally expected, but at least the people here did care about me.

That's not fair. I'm not exactly paying a ton of attention while I'm working

 

[wynn728]

I've been thinking about it and the absent of Geno Mii Costume and I think it probably doesn't mean much to Geno's chances. I hope it does, but maybe after Nintendo got nagged about the Assist Trophies & Mii Costume diconfirming characters in November they probably learn the hard way that nobody like these types of compromise. So they most like stop making Mii Costume of requested character because they realize they're rubbing salt in the wound instead of offering a loving present.

 

[Deleted member]

Congrats on getting your dude! What do you think of him? Cause I hope you're enjoying the dude.

I’m right now practicing with him a bit.

Slowly going from level 4 cpus up to lvl9 ones.

It will take some time but soon I’ll control him pretty well.

 

[MattX20]

I just got done with classic mode with 8. I've enjoyed him so far, though trying to beat the last part of the Spirit Board is a pain in the ass

 

[Deleted member]

I’m right now practicing with him a bit.

Slowly going from level 4 cpus up to lvl9 ones.

It will take some time but soon I’ll control him pretty well.

Yeah Hero certainly has a learning curve especially since he has RNG but he's pretty fun and for having RNG in his moveset I find it quite enjoyable!

I'm currently playing him as we speak and landing Magic Burst and Kamikazes are so satisfying. I like the dude a surprising amount.

 

[EricTheGamerman]

I downloaded Hero, immediately tried Hocus Pocus on my first match, got turned huge, first Smash attack was a crit, literally killed the other fighter at 0%. 10/10 would Hero again.

He’s not ever going to be easy to play or dependable in terms of those down B spells, they’re hard to pull off, but goddamn, he’s fun as **** when you play him.

 

[TooManyToastahs]

You know that scene in Avengers Endgame where everyone comes through the Doctor Strange portals for the final battle?

This feels like that. All it took for everyone to come back was just a little bit of hope (and some help from Sakurai’s epic gamer smash montage. did you see how he played hero?! he could win evo with those skills!)

But all things aside, it’s good to see everyone again

 

[AugustusB]

I used Snooze followed by Thwack at 30% and got it. I broke a shield with hatchet man and followed with an Oomph Forward Smash Crit...The unpredictable nature of Hero is insane gang.

 

[Giga Kaiju]

Man, a lot of stuff happened.

In the end, Geno was NOT a costume and the Hero is here. Woof.

Welp, I did say to not rise your expectations but keep them in check and while it is so with this last presentation which was quite endearing even if it was with no script (Sakurai Is so likable that it just works) and we got to see couple of things with Hero like the moveset, the stage and every thing else that a lot already know (I might try him later since I just returned from homework and I need rest).

Overall, he seems like a fun character.

In some shape or form this might be a good spot to be for now.

That bit of two songs per hero and the two copyrighted SMRPG songs is telling. (Final Fantasy is livid, I guess~)

My opinion remains on that just wait and see and don't overhype yourself to not repeat any Smash 4 situation, guys. There were many and they were sad.

But at least, things are looking good which is a good thing to say at this point.

.

 

[Deleted member]

I’m beating a good number of lvl9 CPUs as Hero.

So I officially mastered the character!

 

[TBone06]

I downloaded Hero, immediately tried Hocus Pocus on my first match, got turned huge, first Smash attack was a crit, literally killed the other fighter at 0%. 10/10 would Hero again.

He’s not ever going to be easy to play or dependable in terms of those down B spells, they’re hard to pull off, but goddamn, he’s fun as **** when you play him.

My lord is he a fun and creative character. You’re right, the down B makes it tough, but he is tons of fun. I already faced off against one online. My K Rool floats between 5-5.1M and I beat him pretty bad. But it wasn’t a fair match up. I can see people new to Hero having a tough go. This will take some time to master. Regardless, another fantastic DLC product.

 

[Fatmanonice]

Did anyone post a screencap of the Discord post by Sabi's source? Anyone? Fatmanonice ?

As in the actual conversation? Several people can vouch it happened. Rummy would you be willing to do one? I'd probably mess it up somehow and blow their cover.

 

[Smashoperatingbuddy123]

While no mii costume is promising not to much increase in chance for two reasons

One square is a little picky know ping little more on the’re way

Second the Chocobo costume is missing too


Oh we do have yet another leak potentially revealing the other 2

It’s monster hunter and doom guy

The catch is he named the dragon quest rep as hero and named the alt costumes perfectly (main heroes from DQ 3/4/8/11)

And also got banjo and kazooie correct

And it was posted back in December 2018

 

[ZelDan]

Whelp, Hero is downloaded on my Switch to check out later.

The Megaman main in me is scared of his existance, but the part of me that likes new characters is happy!

 

[Glitch-EGamer]

While no mii costume is promising not to much increase in chance for two reasons

One square is a little picky know ping little more on the’re way

Second the Chocobo costume is missing too


Oh we do have yet another leak potentially revealing the other 2

It’s monster hunter and doom guy

The catch is he named the dragon quest rep as hero and named the alt costumes perfectly (main heroes from DQ 3/4/8/11)

And also got banjo and kazooie correct

And it was posted back in December 2018

That was already shut down

 

[Vector Victor]

As in the actual conversation? Several people can vouch it happened. Rummy would you be willing to do one? I'd probably mess it up somehow and blow their cover.

'A certain agitator, for the sake of privacy, let's call her Lisa S. No, no, that's too obvious. Let's say L Simpson.'

 

[owjies]

Totally agree, Hero is a blast to play. I really dig the MP concept and find that Hero, although similar, still feels unique from Robin. The visual effects are pretty darn great too. I love the trail of flames left behind by a fully charged neutral B. Also as an old school Dragonball fan, I can’t help but find myself spamming Up Taunt. Now I really can’t wait for Banjo and am really hoping that Geno finds his way in. Sakurai and his team have done it again, and I can only imagine how awesome Geno could be.

 

[MissingGlitch]

Ok this has been in my head all damn day and I am so glad I was able to make it.

 

[TBone06]

Seeing all of these interesting mechanics on the DLC fighter (Joker's Persona, Hero's MP concept) it really makes you think that Geno would fit perfectly with the timed hits mechanic.

It's going to be a long road until the next reveal...

 

[MattX20]

As in the actual conversation? Several people can vouch it happened. Rummy would you be willing to do one? I'd probably mess it up somehow and blow their cover.

If it blows their cover, then maybe we shouldn't.

 

[Fatmanonice]

If it blows their cover, then maybe we shouldn't.

It would be easy to verify but I don't have experience with editing screenshots. Rummy, Slender, and Psycho can all verify that the conversation happened and that we're all part of the same private Discord.

 

[Sigran101]

People are saying Hero has a huge learning curve? Either that's bull**** or I just found my soulmate character. Because I jumped right in against level 9 computers after training mode and have been consistently 3-0 ing them from the very first match. And I generally suck at smash. He seemed like basically easy mode to me, and the more powerful moves seem far too easy to land. Are you guys sure he's not just crazy overpowered?

 

[Robertroid]

Seeing all of these interesting mechanics on the DLC fighter (Joker's Persona, Hero's MP concept) it really makes you think that Geno would fit perfectly with the timed hits mechanic.

It's going to be a long road until the next reveal...

If the timed hits would just add damage/knockout factor (sorry, got lapsus atm lol), that would be a hell to balance.
Let's say that, for the sake of this example, all characters are balanced (looking at you, Ken!)

Geno would have 2 states, say, "untimed attack" and "timed attack". If one of them is balanced, the other would be unpowered or overpowered.
So, if balanced around timed hits, and a pro player masters them, then casual players who haven't would have an underperforming character.
On the other hand, if balanced on untimed hits, a casual player would have it just fine, but competitive would have it very overpowered and that could break it.

So, is there anything I'm missing here?