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Geno (♥♪!?): Return of the Starsend Savior

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helloiamhere

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I don't think they will be shadow dropped tonight but maybe they will be released this weekend like all DQ games in Japan do? Also this all but confirms that the Final Fantasy nonsense is only for that series for whatever reason. Maybe because DQ is handled by a totally different team than FF. Still weird though.
 
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I know that everyone is waiting for Hero to drop soon in order to find out if there is hope for Geno, but I just wanted to point out that this coming week could/would be big for Nintendo for a different reason not Smash related. There is speculation that Universal Orlando will be announcing their plans with Nintendo this coming Thursday (August 1st) for Nintendo Land in Universal Orlando. So Hero could drop soon from now till August 4th (maybe), but I just wanted to bring that up since Evo isn’t the only big event coming soon. Just a thought
 

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I don't think they will be shadow dropped tonight but maybe they will be released this weekend like all DQ games in Japan do? Also this all but confirms that the Final Fantasy nonsense is only for that series for whatever reason. Maybe because DQ is handled by a totally different team than FF. Still weird though.
I've been speculating that possibility as well. DQ content being released tomorrow would be an almost ideal scenario given that DQ games always release on weekends
 

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Weird because I can still use it in Smash Ultimate. :4pacman:
But you couldn't in Smash 4 which is when that Mii Costume was released. If the Mii Costume is in the base game then there's a chance that they could be DLC, but most likely not and if the Costume was released as DLC then it's not going to happen. You're just setting yourself up for severe disappointment when the Bonus Fighter thing never happens.
 

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But you couldn't in Smash 4 which is when that Mii Costume was released. If the Mii Costume is in the base game then there's a chance that they could be DLC, but most likely not and if the Costume was released as DLC then it's not going to happen. You're just setting yourself up for severe disappointment when the Bonus Fighter thing never happens.
Their message had the Pac-Man emote which means they were joking.
 
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I don't think they will be shadow dropped tonight but maybe they will be released this weekend like all DQ games in Japan do? Also this all but confirms that the Final Fantasy nonsense is only for that series for whatever reason. Maybe because DQ is handled by a totally different team than FF. Still weird though.
The video showcasing Hero could drop with a release date. Also, isn't it technically the weekend for Japan right now?

EDIT: Also that truly stinks for FF 7 fans (myself included). It is probably due to Square handling FF and Enix with DQ
 
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I know that everyone is waiting for Hero to drop soon in order to find out if there is hope for Geno, but I just wanted to point out that this coming week could/would be big for Nintendo for a different reason not Smash related. There is speculation that Universal Orlando will be announcing their plans with Nintendo this coming Thursday (August 1st) for Nintendo Land in Universal Orlando. So Hero could drop soon from now till August 4th (maybe), but I just wanted to bring that up since Evo isn’t the only big event coming soon. Just a thought
They are going to announce Geno land. Featuring a bunch of Geno themed rides and meet and greets with Super Mario RPG characters.
 

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Those datamined spirits, whooooo...

I'm so freaking terrified, man. That Mii costume boogeyman is right around the corner.
 

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Those datamined spirits, whooooo...

I'm so freaking terrified, man. That Mii costume boogeyman is right around the corner.
Glad to know it's more than 2 spirits at least.

EDIT: Agreed on the inevitable. Did any of Joker's Mii Costumes get leaked?
 
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My thoughts on the situation.

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So Dragon Quest is getting spirits, good but that now means square is basically a bit ignorant for not giving Final Fantasy Spirits but Dragon Quest does

Also so far if these are dragon quest characters were getting as spirits than why couldn't square even have a single human spirit from the series?
 

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Literally the only good thing out of this situation is...

I'm actually kinda excited to give Guv/Eight a whirl. (A Geno Whirl, if you will.)

Also, if the costume drops, remember that we should only get louder, and this INCLUDES for Ultimate. If the costume's in, Geno is not in any of the current DLC plans, but it doesn't stop him from being added to any future ones. We've gotta be LOUD.
 

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So Dragon Quest is getting spirits, good but that now means square is basically a bit ignorant for not giving Final Fantasy Spirits but Dragon Quest does

Also so far if these are dragon quest characters were getting as spirits than why couldn't square even have a single human spirit from the series?
I've tried looking for Human characters to no avail... None of the popular party members show up and none of the humanoid final bosses like Dragon Lord or Psaro the Manslayer are there either. I am guessing that these monsters (and Celestia, the whale) all appear on Hero's stage.
 

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I've tried looking for Human characters to no avail... None of the popular party members show up and none of the humanoid final bosses like Dragon Lord or Psaro the Manslayer are there either. I am guessing that these monsters (and Celestia, the whale) all appear on Hero's stage.
I'm guessing the DQ heroes that are playable are the only ones then in this case. Honestly, I was expecting just the playable heroes from the Final Smash or maybe party members from 11 at least. I would've liked to see the party members for 8 at least
 

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So I just thought of a hypothetical question that I don't know my own answer to and wanted to see what you all thought.

Let's say that the Mii costume doesn't drop with Hero, Geno ends up not being in the fighters pass, but Nintendo does announce that there will be more DLC fighters after the fighters pass. How would you feel about Geno's chances?

I'm currently leaning towards being hopeful for his chances in this situation. I thought of this question because I just realized that it's a possibility that we unfortunately could get no Mii costume and no fighter.
 

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So I just thought of a hypothetical question that I don't know my own answer to and wanted to see what you all thought.

Let's say that the Mii costume doesn't drop with Hero, Geno ends up not being in the fighters pass, but Nintendo does announce that there will be more DLC fighters after the fighters pass. How would you feel about Geno's chances?

I'm currently leaning towards being hopeful for his chances in this situation. I thought of this question because I just realized that it's a possibility that we unfortunately could get no Mii costume and no fighter.
I'd be incredibly hopeful. I'd be bouncing in my seat.
 

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So I just thought of a hypothetical question that I don't know my own answer to and wanted to see what you all thought.

Let's say that the Mii costume doesn't drop with Hero, Geno ends up not being in the fighters pass, but Nintendo does announce that there will be more DLC fighters after the fighters pass. How would you feel about Geno's chances?

I'm currently leaning towards being hopeful for his chances in this situation. I thought of this question because I just realized that it's a possibility that we unfortunately could get no Mii costume and no fighter.
I don't want to say he'd be a lock but he'd be a lock
 

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So I just thought of a hypothetical question that I don't know my own answer to and wanted to see what you all thought.

Let's say that the Mii costume doesn't drop with Hero, Geno ends up not being in the fighters pass, but Nintendo does announce that there will be more DLC fighters after the fighters pass. How would you feel about Geno's chances?

I'm currently leaning towards being hopeful for his chances in this situation. I thought of this question because I just realized that it's a possibility that we unfortunately could get no Mii costume and no fighter.
I'll cross that bridge when we come to it. No costume but also not being in the Fighter Pass or as a bonus character would almost be cruel even if him being playable still eventually happened anyways.
 

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I think it's mostly. "is the Mii costume there or mysteriously missing"
Mii costume comes back:

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Mii costume is missing:

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Basically Geno's chances get shot to Hell if the Mii costume comes back and nothing but a small miracle would bring him back but his chances rise exponentially if the Mii costume is gone.
Oh.

Say, if something does happen soon, will we still possibly and probably get a Direct around EVO?
 

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The DQ spirit leak is telling me one thing, at least:

We know the stinginess and/or copyright hell situation is really just FF and possibly Squaresoft localized. Enix doesn't seem to have an issue with all the DQ content.
 

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The DQ spirit leak is telling me one thing, at least:

We know the stinginess and/or copyright hell situation is really just FF and possibly Squaresoft localized. Enix doesn't seem to have an issue with all the DQ content.
At least when money's involved. I'm still sticking by FF not getting anything new because it wasn't paid DLC anymore.
 

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I'll cross that bridge when we come to it. No costume but also not being in the Fighter Pass or as a bonus character would almost be cruel even if him being playable still eventually happened anyways.
I agree. Nintendo already has the Mii costume ready and waiting to port at the very very least. To deny us even that much would be a total slap in the face,, and frankly, such a scenario would be more than enough proof that either Sakurai, Nintendo or SE has decided to kill his chances completely. I honestly couldn't think of a logical reason why they would do such a thing unless it was to purposefully kill our hope. I mean, it would literally be free money to just release something that already exists. That said, I still think that if we DON'T see the costume, it's actually a really good sign. The only other reason I can think to NOT give us the costume would be if the real Geno was on his way.
 

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Anyone remembers when people in the Square thread claimed that the companies behind DQ would be too stingy to work with? Because I do, and the end result feels incredibly ironic.
 

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Anyone remembers when people in the Square thread claimed that the companies behind DQ would be too stingy to work with? Because I do, and the end result feels incredibly ironic.
I remember that and fear-mongering over Erdrick killing the competitive scene because Toriyama.
 

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Anyone remembers when people in the Square thread claimed that the companies behind DQ would be too stingy to work with? Because I do, and the end result feels incredibly ironic.
Historically speaking they have been though. This game is pretty much the first time that Square has lent the rights to the series to an outside company in its 30+ year history. It was basically a gaming miracle.
 

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I remember that and fear-mongering over Erdrick killing the competitive scene because Toriyama.
Even worse that a lot of that was being spread by a fellow Geno fan.

I was so embarrassed and ashamed to be a Geno supporter at the time, gotta be frank with y'all.
 

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Anyone remembers when people in the Square thread claimed that the companies behind DQ would be too stingy to work with? Because I do, and the end result feels incredibly ironic.
I remember that and fear-mongering over Erdrick killing the competitive scene because Toriyama.
I recall most of that being done by one person specifically. Or at least, for any egregious amount of time. I had a bit of fear of Toriyama in that regard for a while, but that subsided when more info was passed around.
Historically speaking they have been though. This game is pretty much the first time that Square has lent the rights to the series to an outside company in its 30+ year history. It was basically a gaming miracle.
True, and the fact that Sakurai was able to get all the protags together did that even more so. Really, we should just not underestimate the lengths Sakurai will go to.
 

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Historically speaking they have been though. This game is pretty much the first time that Square has lent the rights to the series to an outside company in its 30+ year history. It was basically a gaming miracle.
For what it’s worth they lent the IP to Koei Tecmo for Musou, and they had Intelligent Systems make a DQ strategy game (not even kidding).
Even worse that a lot of that was being spread by a fellow Geno fan.

I was so embarrassed and ashamed to be a Geno supporter at the time, gotta be frank with y'all.
as funny as this is, you gotta let it go. I don’t think anyone is holding it against the fandom.
 

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as funny as this is, you gotta let it go. I don’t think anyone is holding it against the fandom.
Oh, I've seen some people become turned off from Geno because of it. That was literally stated by some people in the thread. I've mostly let it go, though, but it was definitely not a great time lol. It is funny to look back on, though.
 

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Yeah should be 90 minutes from now if it is today
 
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