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Something in the next Content Approaching trailer is massively salt-inducing and will cause dislike bombs. That's all, but the working theory that some here (including myself) have is that that isn't Geno's costume, but something else entirely. We're not sure as to what it is, but Geno's been seen as out of the running by many since he's a spirit, so it probably isn't him.
I see. Why do we think Geno's costume isn't returning?
Most of us reckon it is, we just don't think it'd be the salt inducing part.
Fatmanonice
, if you're reading this, has Sabi elaborated on the salt-inducer to you? If you don't think you can give specifics, that's fine, just a yes or no.
That's the spirit! The only limiter on a character getting into smash is Sakurai and how much money nintendo is willing to give him to make the game!
As I said on the DLC Speculation thread:
So I agree I would take his word with a grain of Salt but what he says is fun to speculate about and interesting to read. He mostly Speculates and when he posts info we can entertain the thought and keep it at the back of our minds while still taking it with a grain of salt. He's fallible just like the rest of us even though he may or may not have info at times.
Most of us reckon it is, we just don't think it'd be the salt inducing part.
EDIT:
Also backing this up, since having multiple sides of the same story is key. Sabi's words were not meant to be a direct confirmation of 4.0's update video/highlight/announcement containing content that would cause any controversy or salt. More of a passing opinion/comment that might have been accidentally interpreted as legitimate info. It's less "This next update will have some salt" and more "Can't wait to see how this turns out".
You are the one being an asshole here, honestly: our Duck Queen is VERY vocal over Geno's chances, and they fluctuate a lot. One day it looks good, next day it doesn't.
Huh...weren't you the one who came into this thread and threw a ton of shade at fatman for little to no reason?
Luigi The President
convinced me a long time ago.Among certain fans, maybe. But I don't see adding content like that being a problem, especially when it potentially brings in even more fans to the series and Nintendo as a whole. In terms of marketing, it can be a big win.
You shouldn't accuse people of something you don't even remember happening, no matter the situation. But on topic, Rummy has popped in to clarify some information that has been posted here before, as do I. It's not throwing shade just to point fingers; we both speak with Sabi and Fatman and are merely here to help specify and corroborate information, as well as pointing out when things are wrong. No foul play, just covering bases.
Welcome to the thread! You joined us at just the right time. Happy to see new faces show up on the daily!Um, it's taken me so long to even make even one post here. I'll just say that I'm not too aware of how Geno is as a character in SMRPG, but I like RPGs, so maybe I would try the game if I had an opportunity. Not many Mario characters interest me too much, but he seems just my type of character based off of what I usually hear from people. I wouldn't mind him finally getting his chance.
Probably very late to this, but I'd like to be considered a supporter. Also because
Among certain fans, maybe. But I don't see adding content like that being a problem, especially when it potentially brings in even more fans to the series and Nintendo as a whole. In terms of marketing, it can be a big win.
First off, the name is Special in Japan, so he doesn't even consider the game Ultimate as you're implying since that's just a decision on the English translation team's part. And secondly, Ultimate doesn't imply **** about the game's new fighters and I wish people would stop using that baseless idea as some sort of argument point. It's just supposed to be a hype title that references the Everyone is Here mentality as Ultimate/Special refers more to the culmination of past work rather than anything of the new. Sakurai has went on record several times about this.
I don't if we can really call Sakurai wishy-washy on Geno. He's literally only been addressed once in Smash history with the Mii costume. Everything related to Geno and Smash originates from a relatively tiny timeframe and it's not like he has clearly gone back on any of those stances or done anything to earn a wishy-washy descriptor. The only other things is his Spirit in World of Light, which doesn't really change much of Geno's situation. While I agree that we interpreted a lot of this event about Geno as good for his chances, but I do think that a lot of it was also on us as fans doing the usual Smash thing of piecing together a narrative we liked in favor of a character, so some of that disappointment and frustration probably needs to land at our feet as well. With the types of icons and big fan requests that have gotten into Smash that Geno has just been lower priority (and before any one says it, we're not getting exclusively fan requests ever in Smash and that's where we're leaving it so not to get back into things) than other characters so far. Every other major character that gets in should be arguably a point towards Geno's eventual inclusion, but we just don't know where he would have ended up priority wise in deciding Ultimate's roster. Similarly, we just don't know if Geno as playable has a more unknown specific issue keeping him from the game.
ForsakenM
It's fine, I know Rummy. We're in the same group. Same with Slender. Didn't realize the conversation was merely spit balling because info from Sabi's main Nintendo source is usually vague or cryptic (remember the crabs for Link's Awakening?). I've talked about it before but in these circles it's hard to know when it's actual info or speculation. I apologise.
It'll cause the usual salt that Nintendo purists just leak on a near constant basis about the state of Smash currently. For the most part though, it'll be well received stuff because it just further heightens Smash as the premiere crossover franchise and lots of people enjoy lots of different parts of gaming. There are very few characters that haven't appeared on Nintendo consoles at this point though.
According to Fatman, Sabi said something about the next Challenger video being salt inducing. It's possible this could go the same way as the "red carpet treatment for character at E3" where it doesn't quite end up the same way as reportedly heard/speculated. I mean, ****, the worst they can do is a Sora Mii costume and we'll move on like always. I don't really see how you can cause that much salt when Banjo Kazooie, Ridley, and King K. Rool all got in the game. People will *****, but it's not going to mean much or last.
Tldr: stop supporting geno in here, our support doesnt matter. Furthermore, contact Nintendo asking for geno, because our support matters.
It was an empty statement, supposedly, and not based on any actual information he knew. I took it as him knowing something specific but it was actually kind of a side comment/commentary on the Smash community.
Fatmanonice
already said something about it.
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Ovaltine
because Smash speculation can be really draining. It's hard not to get emotionally invested when you spend a lot of time on it. I get the pessimism because sometimes it feels hopeless and it's exhausting to be hopeful. I too have chronic depression and, even though I'm medicated, it ebbs and flows and online forums make you feel as if you can be more blunt about how you feel. It's kind of hard for this fanbase because 1. we're super old not only in our support and the fact that a lot of us are 25+, 2. tons of "oh, so close" moments over the years, 3. lots of "impossible" characters being added in this game and the last, 4. Sakurai's statements, and all that. We're in a weirdly unique situation as a fanbase and it's hard to be a front-runner for it. 
It is a lot of pressure. I also feel like I could be and should be doing so much more. I have a lot of creativity in my mind, a huge character arc for Geno in my head, and both art and writing skills that have taken over a decade of honing (I was writing already at 9, drawing digitally at about 11). I want to deliver something for Geno that is huge and incredible, something that does justice to his appeal and potential, but alas, I am just one woman —— a woman with mental issues and chronic fatigue, at that.I relate a lot to
Ovaltine has very quickly become a leader in this community and, based on my own experience, that's a weirdly stressful position to be in too. All this said, I get that they're not super optimistic because, in some sense, you also take responsibility for other people's expectations too. It's not logical but, you kind of take blame for the state of things if they don't go right and that's a bit of a weight too. In a way, it's almost like a political campaign but you have even less control over how things turn out.
Hell yeah he will.
I was just about to ask what she said until a read a few messages below. That's very interesting to think about to me.
Honestly, I could see that happening. DQ is a big deal, and Sakurai was absolutely GUSHING over the idea of adding DQ into Smash in his latest article. Japan loves DQ, and Sakurai is among them. I really do understand why DQ would take priority over Geno for a whole multitude of reasons, this one included.
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Okay, Let's try this again. I don't really get this in my opinion it seems weird. Sakurai has been trying to get Geno for about a Decade and decides to drop him just to get DQ when if they're offering it to him straight up it has a good chance of happening again in Smash 6 or whenever? That seems weird.
I somehow don’t think that’s the case, and that Nintendo just wanted to do the Dragon Quest stuff.
Sakurai has expressed love and respect for Dragon Quest in the past. Even if Nintendo was more the one pushing for it, he absolutely wanted to work with Dragon Quest too based on his love for 3 and aforementioned respect.
I think you’ve already done Geno justice though. Your artwork is excellent, and although you’ve expressed pessimism about Geno’s current chances, your overall passion for the character is inspiring. From the artistic perspective, even focusing on smaller ideas or vignettes of larger ones will add up over time. Especially since you’re balancing your Geno art with your professional work, know that what you’ve already contributed is appreciated.
Well, I'm gonna take that as one HECK of a compliment, because I am in NO way a professional rofl. I'm entirely self-taught and never once went to any classes or proper schooling to learn art. I know people who have, who have then relayed tips and such to me, but that's about the end of it. I do freelance commission work sometimes, but that's... about it. My work being likened to that of a PROFESSIONAL, though? YO. That is a crazy compliment!!! Thank you so much!
