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General ICs Q&A Thread
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FrozenHobo
Smash Hero
no, he's not. he's a random NY smasher that i happen to know. don't confuse him with the afrothunder.
J4pu
Smash Champion
oh, that's so misleading
AfroThunderRule
Smash Journeyman
Yea, sorry about that. I'm just a regular scrub. x_x
Just so this post would be off-topic, what is hobbling exactly? Footstool shenanigans?
Just so this post would be off-topic, what is hobbling exactly? Footstool shenanigans?
FrozenHobo
Smash Hero
come on, man, step it up. its not that hard to figure out. one search on youtube would answer that question.
r3d d09
Smash Master
he's the kind of people that Frozenpoop flames till they want assisted suicide.
FrozenHobo
Smash Hero
except that i know him from another forum, so i won't persist with the flames.
Rubberbandman
Smash Champion
2 major things you did wrong in that one post.
1. Asked an easily explainable question that could have been figured out by looking it up.
2. To me, you insulted the technique by calling it shenanigans.
3. Still haven't changed the rob head
That places much farther down on the totem pole here, and on my angry list.
Insetick
Smash Apprentice
Hello, IC boards; a few short questions.
If only Nana uses a certain move, does it decay?
I've been trying a silly kill string in training. When I grab someone on the stage's lip but facing away from the edge, I do a back throw-footstool-follow down with Popo-bair for a stagespike. Do you think this could work on a living, breathing player?
Can Snake buffer a grenade out of normal chaingrabs? Hobbling?
If only Nana uses a certain move, does it decay?
I've been trying a silly kill string in training. When I grab someone on the stage's lip but facing away from the edge, I do a back throw-footstool-follow down with Popo-bair for a stagespike. Do you think this could work on a living, breathing player?
Can Snake buffer a grenade out of normal chaingrabs? Hobbling?
Sieguest
Smash Master
No
I'm not sure whether the stun frames of the footstool run out before you get to where you can bair stagespike; if they do then on a human player, this may not work unless you know the character has a terrible recovery, if they don't then have at it? Although, that's really situational.
Snake can pull a grenade before you initially grab him to start the chaingrab. Otherwise I don't think he can.
00-Zero
Smash Journeyman
IIrc, Nana's decay follows suit to Popo's, so if only nana were to use a particular move, I don't think it would decay. But I could be wrong.
When you back air them for the stage spike, they can tech the side of the stage to save themselves, but more times than not, you can up air them after they do that, which they can also tech, but I've been able to footstool again after the up air.
But don't forget, following up on a footstool off an edge can also put you in a bad position. Sometimes in just the right spot for them to footstool you.
I don't think he can if you hobble him correctly. Well at least a grenade has never come out when I've hobbled a snake. Not unless I'm late with the regrab. And as for just normal alternating grabs, I don't think he can if you're alternating quick enough.
Insetick
Smash Apprentice
Thanks! This helps a lot.
I'm not very good at Brawl or ICs; I thought of the footstool-bair string because I want to make up for my suck with flashiness
Do you know any other stupid/flashy kill strings? eg. at 150%+, I pass to Nana, have her start an uthrow, then sh bair, haha.
PS. On Marth at least, I am pretty confident that Popo can land the bair before he can jump.
I'm not very good at Brawl or ICs; I thought of the footstool-bair string because I want to make up for my suck with flashiness
Do you know any other stupid/flashy kill strings? eg. at 150%+, I pass to Nana, have her start an uthrow, then sh bair, haha.
PS. On Marth at least, I am pretty confident that Popo can land the bair before he can jump.
r3d d09
Smash Master
why be flashy when there is a chance of messing up?
00-Zero
Smash Journeyman
Lol in friendlies, I'll Nana-Blizzard, to Popo-SH Fair.
Insetick
Smash Apprentice
I only play with friends (and we're all mid-level players), so winning isn't a big deal. They have no idea how to chaingrab or desynch with ICs, so I always try to make them go "oh dam."
theunabletable
Smash Lord
^Manliness, obv.
A really situational and pretty flashy way to get a kill is CG over to a ledge, have Nana grab him, Nana Fthrow > Popo FAir to kill off the side.
It's kinda sexy.
A really situational and pretty flashy way to get a kill is CG over to a ledge, have Nana grab him, Nana Fthrow > Popo FAir to kill off the side.
It's kinda sexy.
r3d d09
Smash Master
i did that to a group of guys and they almost soiled their pants. seriously.
Rubberbandman
Smash Champion
Snake cant pull out grenades at all during normal chaingrabs, the hitstun lasts too long.
For hobbling, he can only pull it out if you miss the re-grab by one frame or more, other than that, its completely safe.
I always sandbag my friends hard. Extremely hard.
Not "don't go for cg's hard" but chaingrab to ridiculous percents and if they can actually kill off your nana, kill yourself to pain them with more chaingrabs.
I seriously just waited for him to come to me, shaking my head the whole time.
r3d d09
Smash Master
maybe if IC mains don't get banned 
question. what do you do against an aggressive mk player?
question. what do you do against an aggressive mk player?
00-Zero
Smash Journeyman
You pivot grab him XD and alternate between grounded, desynced blizzards and short hopped ones
r3d d09
Smash Master
okay. i do that. but once he gets past that. stock is insta gone. ha. i need to work on it, i know that aggressive mk's should lose. but... he is the best player in my state.
FrozenHobo
Smash Hero
can't let you do that, star
r3d d09
Smash Master
frozenpoop for the win
toobusytocare
Smash Lord
r3d d09, how do you do vs CIZ?
r3d d09
Smash Master
Hmmm. i never play him honestly. I think i got him in a bracket once and i went peach because i really don't know the MK matchup.
got any tips for me against CIZ? any habits he does?
got any tips for me against CIZ? any habits he does?
toobusytocare
Smash Lord
i havent played him in so long haha
i was bad (worse) back then too :\
i was bad (worse) back then too :\
r3d d09
Smash Master
dang :/ well. all i know is that i got him in a B+ bracket. and he plays CF like he does in melee. i got ***** so hard. ha.
toobusytocare
Smash Lord
he got soo good at melee after moving to wa lol
btw does he still play diddy at all?
btw does he still play diddy at all?
EverAlert
Smash Master
Yeah man, it's superdumb early timing, when I said immediately I -meant- immediately lol.
rchau
Smash Cadet
i had an MK tell me (Tuen from Oregon) that the double sh blizzs and double grounded blizz are easy to smash di through, and then u can instantly break nana and popo apart.
rchau
Smash Cadet
is cging easier with the new IC fusion technique? What are the practical applications?
FrozenHobo
Smash Hero
fusion is banned, so it doesn't matter.
FrozenHobo
Smash Hero
it causes a glitch that teleports people under the stage. when is it legal?
da K.I.D.
Smash Hero
When people dont know about it. Its not the most known or understood technique you know...
ive only seen it applied practically to a match once...
ive only seen it applied practically to a match once...
Rubberbandman
Smash Champion
All the time, no one has actually gone out and banned it around here.
But really, if its an accident, then you might as well restart the match.
phi1ny3
Not the Mama
Heavies are hard to CG, because most of them require you to move a little instead of doing a throw like in the same position.
I've taken to either just fthrowing or bthrow hobbling heavy characters. Is there a way to make a more efficient "alternating" grab that doesn't seem slow?
I've taken to either just fthrowing or bthrow hobbling heavy characters. Is there a way to make a more efficient "alternating" grab that doesn't seem slow?