Social General Ice Climber Chat

[PEEF!]

Thanks ChivalRuse.

Is there any way you can find me a video of a Galapagos Finch nibbling ever-so-gently on a berry? Not a seed. No, certainly not a seed. More like one of those little red berries about the diameter of a medium sized Peanut M&M.

 

[ChivalRuse]

Is there any way you can find me a video of a Galapagos Finch nibbling ever-so-gently on a berry? Not a seed. No, certainly not a seed. More like one of those little red berries about the diameter of a medium sized Peanut M&M.

Lol, Peef. <3

 

[choknater]

im getting more used to the fox matchup i think i feel more confident about how ill do against foxes the next time i go to tournament

ill beat sfat next set i got this

 

[*P*L*U*R*]

Yeeeeeeeeh Andre. You got dissss

 

[Roneblaster]

im still listening to arab money, even after reading every post since that ******* posted the link....fuuuuuuuuuuuuu

 

[choknater]

dose tricks is fo beginnurs ownlee

 

[PEEF!]

IDK what ur talking about.

 

[choknater]

chris hu's street fighter iv commentary

 

[PEEF!]

Thats what the arab money thing is about?

 

[Binx]

Hey guys im getting to old and dont have the time to create one, but we really need a video thread in these parts. Someone should get on that =D

 

[Nintendude]

Has anyone ever tried d-throw d-tilt vs. Sheik? The d-tilt doesn't do anything except add damage, but it's really easy to do and I've never had the d-tilt break Sheik out of the throw.

 

[PEEF!]

Has anyone ever tried d-throw d-tilt vs. Sheik? The d-tilt doesn't do anything except add damage, but it's really easy to do and I've never had the d-tilt break Sheik out of the throw.

This gets brought up about once every couple months.

Yeah, its like dthrow>dsmash except easier to time and less damage.

 

[Nintendude]

And it doesn't require a stale down-smash to work lol
I wonder why Fly doesn't use it though. He seems to just do a normal d-throw chaingrab when Nana's around.

 

[ChivalRuse]

Dthrow dsmash is a somewhat strict timing. It's not uncommon to accidentally hit Sheik out of the chaingrab and forfeit all that damage you could have done to her. I like to do the regular dthrow cg to be safe sometimes.

 

[Nintendude]

Dthrow dsmash is a somewhat strict timing. It's not uncommon to accidentally hit Sheik out of the chaingrab and forfeit all that damage you could have done to her. I like to do the regular dthrow cg to be safe sometimes.

I meant d-throw d-tilt which requires like no timing at all. The d-smash variant is not a good idea to ever use imo.

 

[ChivalRuse]

To be honest, I didn't know dthrow dtilt was easier than dthrow dsmash.

 

[PB&J]

i think the timing is about the same but ive been doing it so long i could be mistaken

 

[Fly_Amanita]

I don't use it because I always forget it exists. I do believe it is strictly better than the regular dthrow CG, so I'll remember it the next time I have to fight a Sheik.

 

[PB&J]

ive been doing it ever since i see chu dat do it in crew in the legendary east coast vs west coast crews.

 

[choknater]

he did the dsmash

we are talking about dtilt

 

[Fluffy G]

I didnt know you could use a d-tilt. honestly the timing of D-throw D-smash is easy. It's just Down Cstick as SOON as you downthrow. lol.(btw this is cloudz)

 

[Fluffy G]

oh yeah, does anybody still do that guaranteed combo that gives 40% to just about everybody? I think it's

grab, Dthrow, reverse D-air, Uptilt, upair, upair?


it works on a lot of people and sweet sweet damage for the price of a grab

 

[PB&J]

he did the dsmash

we are talking about dtilt

i know he did and at the same time i did the d tilt chain grab..thats when i didnt use the c stick though but i can still do it pretty good

 

[ChivalRuse]

If people DI up to get out of the dthrow dair (Marth, Peach, Zelda, etc.) you can just do dthrow -> upsmash -> uair -> uair for a guaranteed 50% or so. I personally don't like reverse dair -> utilt because various DIs can get out of it.

 

[Kyu Puff]

If marth/peach/etc di up, reverse d-air u-tilt is strictly better imo. Two u-airs is idealistic in any situation (especially after a u-smash, which launches them higher), typically they would have to be at low % and/or di badly for that to work.

 

[ChivalRuse]

Low % is a given. I might opt for reverse dair -> utilt at medium percents. DI badly is also given, as my other condition was that they were doing escape DI for the dthrow dair (up DI), meaning the upsmash will have a good trajectory.

 

[Kyu Puff]

Low % is a given. I might opt for reverse dair -> utilt at medium percents. DI badly is also given, as my other condition was that they were doing escape DI for the dthrow dair (up DI), meaning the upsmash will have a good trajectory.

That's not what I meant. I know it's escape di for d-throw d-air, I've made like a million posts on this, but after the first u-air it's very unlikely that you can land a second one. U-tilt also doesn't launch as far, so the u-air or b-air is more automatic and works until a higher %.

Another benefit of reverse d-air u-tilt is that you can read the di before the u-tilt, so if they didn't di up you can still grab or do something else. If you d-throw u-smash and they surprise you with di away, you don't get nearly as much out of it.

 

[ChivalRuse]

I'm not saying reverse dair utilt is bad or anything. But Chu's been dthrow upsmashing for years, and he's always been able to follow it up pretty well.

 

[Binx]

I prefer dthrow upsmash on Marth because he can DI out of the utilt and into a grab fairly easily. Its dumb.

 

[Kyu Puff]

If he's DIing up he will not escape the u-tilt...

 

[PEEF!]

If he's DIing up he will not escape the u-tilt...

THERE IS NO ESCAPE.

I need to start adding a dtilt to dthrow regrabs.

 

[ChivalRuse]

So dthrow fair -> regrab (before they hit the ground) works on Jiggs sometimes. xD

 

[PEEF!]

It works on most everyone if they catch the weak fair hitbox.

Dthrow>reverse dair>utilt like...never works on heavy characters because of the lost frame advantage from dthrow. You just can't get it out in time.

 

[ChivalRuse]

The fair has different strength levels with a meteor trajectory?

 

[PEEF!]

The fair has different strength levels with a meteor trajectory?

Yep, play around with it spiking peach off the edge at high % and you'll see.

 

[*P*L*U*R*]

Well

You learn something new everyday.

Ain't that a *****.

 

[PB&J]

So dthrow fair -> regrab (before they hit the ground) works on Jiggs sometimes. xD

if u throw a jab in before the grab it works alot..fighting jiggs is what i love. icys are fast enuff to catch jiggs' stupid roll.

by this time she should die next time u grab her

 

[ChivalRuse]

Because of the frame advantage from the dthrow, you can literally grab Jiggs before she hits the ground from the fair meteor. No need to jab.

 

[PEEF!]

Its hard to hit the meteor on Jiggs IMO

 

[Smasher89]

Why cant I remember the frametrap I used against Armadas CF :/

It was something along doing dthrow dair (not sure about reverse or not) and probably reverse fsmash if he smashDI'd or something, otherwise I think I got the regrab :/