I actually believe that NO throw will break it unless you do a grab attack first. I'm going to go check.
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Social General Ice Climber Chat
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Fly_Amanita
Master of Caribou
Hey, something good came out of the wobbling thread.
Nintendude
Smash Hero
heh, good ****
Hopefully this can begin a transition away from banning wobbling.
Wobbles isn't a Phoenix anymore O_o
Hopefully this can begin a transition away from banning wobbling.
Wobbles isn't a Phoenix anymore O_o
MacD
Banned via Administration
that is not something good fly 
Vts
Smash Champion
Meh i'll still not wobble
just who i am
wow english bad lol
just who i am
wow english bad lol
choknater
Smash Obsessed
lol i can imagine fly winning and ppl saying to ban it again
or even worse
fly getting 2nd or 3rd one time and ppl saying 'yea wobbling shouldnt be banned'
and then
fly winning after that and saying it should be banned
or even worse
fly getting 2nd or 3rd one time and ppl saying 'yea wobbling shouldnt be banned'
and then
fly winning after that and saying it should be banned
INSANE CARZY GUY
Banned via Warnings
perfect game play pichu is better than pikachu and ice climbers are impossible to beat/touch or anything and they **** everyone. Please don't talk about perfect because no one is.
try to be real like at 20% is when you should count it for room for error.
try to be real like at 20% is when you should count it for room for error.
choknater
Smash Obsessed
i disagree
about pichu, that is
about pichu, that is
Nintendude
Smash Hero
I think that's only if you get a grab from a completely neutral position (or a shield grab). In my experience you usually have to wait a tiny bit for Nana to get into position (same for chaingrabs), which lets them get out more easily.
INSANE CARZY GUY
Banned via Warnings
in frame by frame perfect play pichu is much better than pikachu because his sheild can't cover himself unlike pichu's, so he will get sheild stabbed to death when pichu could powersheild and then punish them.
Vanitas
Smash Ace
EDIT: smashboards lagged sorry for double post
Vanitas
Smash Ace
is it just me, or are we the most hated mains out there...?
just because we re awesome and they re not
INSANE CARZY GUY
Banned via Warnings
I hate peachs sooooooooo much I swear fair d-smash is half a freakin stock. I really hate peachs, but yeah ice climbers are most likly the most hated because when you try to plan against them WTF?!?!? I would feel safer attacking bowsers sheild than theirs.
I do however think sheiks should be the most hated simply because they destroy half the cast with as little skill as possile. 1/4 of the cast sheik has to be able to edge gaurd well against and not mess up f-tilt fair WTF?!?!?!
but yeah if I ever saw an ice climbers main in pools I think I would just go puff or something. sorry but we are all kindof gay because otherwise we would simply fail.
I do however think sheiks should be the most hated simply because they destroy half the cast with as little skill as possile. 1/4 of the cast sheik has to be able to edge gaurd well against and not mess up f-tilt fair WTF?!?!?!
but yeah if I ever saw an ice climbers main in pools I think I would just go puff or something. sorry but we are all kindof gay because otherwise we would simply fail.
Kyu Puff
Smash Champion
INSANE CARZY GUY
Banned via Warnings
it involved wobbles, does that help?
Finch
Smash Lord
pretty sure jiggs mains win for most hated
TheZhuKeeper
Smash Champion
People have been used to Jiggs mains since Mango, so yeah, ICs are the most hated right now LOL.
It's ok though, eventually people will get used to / figure you guys out!
But I'm still always going to hope for IC players to lose on my side of the bracket cause that **** is annoying to fight >(
INSANE CARZY GUY
Banned via Warnings
why does everyone sig me zhu? really I talk about that kind of stuff a lot, but really people sig me way to much.
but is it possible for someone to like fighting the ice climbers without being a total douche?
but is it possible for someone to like fighting the ice climbers without being a total douche?
Don't worry Zhu, we probably won't end up playing at APEX. I'll just lose to random folks and take 601st or something
I thought it was funny that, while I wound up beating you at POE, I struggled mightily with folks you obliterated. Your style has a dominance that I kinda wish I could imitate
I thought it was funny that, while I wound up beating you at POE, I struggled mightily with folks you obliterated. Your style has a dominance that I kinda wish I could imitate
TheZhuKeeper
Smash Champion
Whoops, I meant all ICs except you! I will cheer / help you out with very few exceptions =)Don't worry Zhu, we probably won't end up playing at APEX. I'll just lose to random folks and take 601st or something
I thought it was funny that, while I wound up beating you at POE, I struggled mightily with folks you obliterated. Your style has a dominance that I kinda wish I could imitate
We love you =)
Oh boy videos. Me vs. Iori's Ganon.
Skip the Sheik match unless.. well you want to match my crappy Sheik lose to Ganondorf on Brinstar. Honestly, everytime I try and switch off ICs it ends up being a bad decision. I'll just stay ICs on every stage, for every matchup.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wM6tM4i624
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9UAFQAao_w&feature=related
Note how afraid of me he is. Also note how afraid of him *I* am, lol. Normally I wouldn't stick to the edge against Ganon, but since I had platform cover and de-sync'ed blizzard, I rarely ate **** for it while he was camping the top.
Also, that pause was accidental. Even though he had joked about using it before, he was just mashing like a crazy guy and didn't mean to do it. If I thought he had, I would have asked the TO to DQ him that round. But Iori is cool
Skip the Sheik match unless.. well you want to match my crappy Sheik lose to Ganondorf on Brinstar. Honestly, everytime I try and switch off ICs it ends up being a bad decision. I'll just stay ICs on every stage, for every matchup.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wM6tM4i624
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9UAFQAao_w&feature=related
Note how afraid of me he is. Also note how afraid of him *I* am, lol. Normally I wouldn't stick to the edge against Ganon, but since I had platform cover and de-sync'ed blizzard, I rarely ate **** for it while he was camping the top.
Also, that pause was accidental. Even though he had joked about using it before, he was just mashing like a crazy guy and didn't mean to do it. If I thought he had, I would have asked the TO to DQ him that round. But Iori is cool
Yeah I was watching when that pause happened. I knew it was accidental, but if it happened again I was going to require he jump off the side.Oh boy videos. Me vs. Iori's Ganon.
Skip the Sheik match unless.. well you want to match my crappy Sheik lose to Ganondorf on Brinstar. Honestly, everytime I try and switch off ICs it ends up being a bad decision. I'll just stay ICs on every stage, for every matchup.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wM6tM4i624
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9UAFQAao_w&feature=related
Note how afraid of me he is. Also note how afraid of him *I* am, lol. Normally I wouldn't stick to the edge against Ganon, but since I had platform cover and de-sync'ed blizzard, I rarely ate **** for it while he was camping the top.
Also, that pause was accidental. Even though he had joked about using it before, he was just mashing like a crazy guy and didn't mean to do it. If I thought he had, I would have asked the TO to DQ him that round. But Iori is cool
I super-liked your platform waveland>nana rocket setup at 1:48.
I think ganon is more effective vs ICs with more offense than Iori played. Perhaps that's just my bad speaking, but Iori was rarely pressuring your shield, and thats when I'm most scared...
Yeah. When he tried to pressure my shield I usually wavedashed backwards out of it to avoid letting him get any of that shield stun and push Nana off the stage. As ChivalRuse (I think?) mentioned, Ganon punching you off the level while shielded = dead Nana. And usually once people get offensive with me and go for too many attacks in a row, I find a way to sneak an aerial or two in there. I think he picked up on that during our friendlies the night before.
Wow Wobbles really abused the fear of a grab. Wavedash upsmash right in gannons face and shielding to wavedash punish rolls. Are you coming to Good **** German by chance? I know some AZ guys are going, but I think you're more Texas now.
I'd love to play you.
I'd love to play you.
Oh no, I'm always AZ at heart No offense to my TX buddies or anything. And yeah, u-smash is so good on Ganon since his aerials all have start-up lag and he tends to jump over everything else
I'm 99.999% sure I won't be at Good **** German though.
I'm looking at the ruleset now though and I'm genuinely surprised DK64 is legal with Brinstar and RC illegal. I've played utter camp and runaway strats on DK64 before and they work VERY disproportionately to the amount of effort invested compared to a good runaway and poking game on Cruise.
But I'm known to have an irrational fondness for Cruise so maybe take what I say with a grain of salt.
No offense to my TX buddies or anything. And yeah, u-smash is so good on Ganon since his aerials all have start-up lag and he tends to jump over everything else I'm 99.999% sure I won't be at Good **** German though.
I'm looking at the ruleset now though and I'm genuinely surprised DK64 is legal with Brinstar and RC illegal. I've played utter camp and runaway strats on DK64 before and they work VERY disproportionately to the amount of effort invested compared to a good runaway and poking game on Cruise.
But I'm known to have an irrational fondness for Cruise so maybe take what I say with a grain of salt.
ChivalRuse
Smash Hero
Yeah, that was me. My friend has been training his Ganon to beat Chu, so inadvertently I've been learning the matchup.
INSANE CARZY GUY
Banned via Warnings
but i'm confused
love and hate, I really don't understand. my ice climbers aren't total crap however I wish I could play as them more in friendilies but they ruin them like puff dittos for grand finals.also wobbles you have some of the most enjoyable posts out there thank you for using logic we always need more of that.
yeah he did seem afraid at some points gotta watch for the popo.
Binx
Smash Master
Hey I think i've been doing reverse dthrow dair cgs wrong for years, whats the timing to do it all sexy and fast like wobbles?
I don't dash to do them and I buffer the turn-around. That's about all I can think of. The rest is just timing Nana's d-air I guess?
Well, there is also an art (if I can use that term) to timing Nana's jump so that the grab L-cancels her dair.
IDK about Wobbles' Dthrow dairs, but I think mine are super sexy. I l-cancel Nana's Dair so I can almost always get the blizzard in, or start a wobble immediately.
So if you want to do them like me:
Dthrow, and if you are on the ground, hold down for at least the first half of the dthrow (nana will crouch. This isn't necessary, but it helps me.) Then just before popo smashes Falcon on the ground, jump. As soon as he pops up, dair. Buffer the turnaround by holding back after the dair. As soon as popo turns around, grab. If done properly, nana will L-cancel. As soon as you grab, press A, popo headbutts. Now if you are over 30 or 40%, do a blizzard for free. If nana didn't l-cancel you can't do the blizzard, they will break. So if she doesnt cancel, just do another dthrow dair...but time it better =D
Probably more in-depth than anyone needed, but I'm sure there are lingering questions that I might've answered.
IDK about Wobbles' Dthrow dairs, but I think mine are super sexy. I l-cancel Nana's Dair so I can almost always get the blizzard in, or start a wobble immediately.
So if you want to do them like me:
Dthrow, and if you are on the ground, hold down for at least the first half of the dthrow (nana will crouch. This isn't necessary, but it helps me.) Then just before popo smashes Falcon on the ground, jump. As soon as he pops up, dair. Buffer the turnaround by holding back after the dair. As soon as popo turns around, grab. If done properly, nana will L-cancel. As soon as you grab, press A, popo headbutts. Now if you are over 30 or 40%, do a blizzard for free. If nana didn't l-cancel you can't do the blizzard, they will break. So if she doesnt cancel, just do another dthrow dair...but time it better =D
Probably more in-depth than anyone needed, but I'm sure there are lingering questions that I might've answered.
Well, there is also an art (if I can use that term) to timing Nana's jump so that the grab L-cancels her dair.
IDK about Wobbles' Dthrow dairs, but I think mine are super sexy. I l-cancel Nana's Dair so I can almost always get the blizzard in, or start a wobble immediately.
So if you want to do them like me:
Dthrow, and if you are on the ground, hold down for at least the first half of the dthrow (nana will crouch. This isn't necessary, but it helps me.) Then just before popo smashes Falcon on the ground, jump. As soon as he pops up, dair. Buffer the turnaround by holding back after the dair. As soon as popo turns around, grab. If done properly, nana will L-cancel. As soon as you grab, press A, popo headbutts. Now if you are over 30 or 40%, do a blizzard for free. If nana didn't l-cancel you can't do the blizzard, they will break. So if she doesnt cancel, just do another dthrow dair...but time it better =D
Probably more in-depth than anyone needed, but I'm sure there are lingering questions that I might've answered.
IDK about Wobbles' Dthrow dairs, but I think mine are super sexy. I l-cancel Nana's Dair so I can almost always get the blizzard in, or start a wobble immediately.
So if you want to do them like me:
Dthrow, and if you are on the ground, hold down for at least the first half of the dthrow (nana will crouch. This isn't necessary, but it helps me.) Then just before popo smashes Falcon on the ground, jump. As soon as he pops up, dair. Buffer the turnaround by holding back after the dair. As soon as popo turns around, grab. If done properly, nana will L-cancel. As soon as you grab, press A, popo headbutts. Now if you are over 30 or 40%, do a blizzard for free. If nana didn't l-cancel you can't do the blizzard, they will break. So if she doesnt cancel, just do another dthrow dair...but time it better =D
Probably more in-depth than anyone needed, but I'm sure there are lingering questions that I might've answered.
Cia
das kwl
I wish tri-state would follow this example. My region complains about everything and thanks to it, wobbling is banned and there are like.. 2 cp stages <_<
Nintendude
Smash Hero
I wish Alex Strife, Alukard, and Plank would read that wobbling debate thread and post their thoughts, because I'd like to see if they can actually defend the ban in a convincing way. It's so easy for them to just ignore the issue because so many people are happy with wobbling banned.
edit:
It appears that Zhu/MacD convinced that WC host to ban wobbling again. Funny....I thought that Zhu believed wobbling to be fair.
I think that the attendees were a factor in the decision because as soon as he mentioned unbanning wobbling, everyone gave a resounding AW HELL NAW. Someone even threatened not to come, which is really funny because the only IC player there is Fly who's really good with grabs anyway.
Fly_Amanita
Master of Caribou
I plan on being more vocal about the legality of wobbling in my region. We'll see how it goes.
ChivalRuse
Smash Hero
There's no need to l-cancel Nana's dair when chain grabbing Falcon ...