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Karp-0S

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I will MM your falcon with ness. $5.

Instead of you giving me $5 if I win, you have to admit Ness is not a bad character choice... and change your tier list.
 

CAOTIC

Woxy
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The only top tier character that could represent a discrepancy between the good of the character and the skill of the player is Sheik.
 

Lachlan

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I agree with this. Jigglypuff isn't nearly as broken as the players who use her.
i said that like 5 pages ago but noone listened

also ness is pathetic omg srsly you are like those kids that play nobar on ddr and are proud of their ****ty achievements and claim they are better since they did it no bar

ness is awful dude why do you think he is good

edit: chaotic i think you mean the worth of a character =P
 

Karp-0S

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Okay Aron I'll take your $5
I'll mark it up to $40 if you wait until the tourney after next at Helensvale. (aka MaaK2)

Instead of you giving me $5 if I win, you have to admit Ness is not a bad character choice... and change your tier list.
^ for this, you must change your sig to one of my choosing. (it will be quite ness related)

You must acknowledge Ness as Top of the tier list in all things. All the time.

Conditions okay with you?
 

J-Birds

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Thoughts on Fox vs Marth people?

It just feels as though as soon as Fox makes a mistake hes ****ed and gets mad punished, usually gimped.
 

J-Birds

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Well i mean there is just so much less room for error in marth vs spacies then marth vs others.
 

Dekar289

Smash Hero
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k so fox vs marth
grab him, up throw, upair
also give him the nair and shine him offstage
also don't get hit
 

Lachlan

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ITS THE GRAB GAME

yeah i think fox marth is like 50 50 but you the fox has to be really on his game, if you miss an l cancel you will likely get grabbed to death or gimped or something
 

S.D

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Fox Marth is widely regarded the most even match in the game, although in PAL it's a bit tougher for Fox I'd still put it at even.
 

tibs7

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I think of this mu like fox vs peach. One screw up and you take heavy %. and you don't get back to the stage once off,which is why I think it's in marths favour.
Not screwing up for the whole match? Impossible.
And also like Ryan said before fox kills later to :/.
 

S.D

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Fox kills later? Marth has more trouble killing than Fox... Marth gimping Fox low % is what you need to watch out for.

Marth offstage against Fox is just as bad as vice versa, all you have to do is wait for an over b stall and it's a free shi9ne spike, if they go too low you can use ledge frames for a free shine spike through their up b etc

Fox players just have to be smart about their approach, overshoot aerials and don't overcommit coz all Marth will do it try to bait grabs.. It's even if you know how to play it.
 

tibs7

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Later as in compared to NTSC, not to marth, probs shoulda said that.
 

Sirias

Smash Champion
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I hate the Marth Fox MU.
Fox has the advantage, though, but, as someone said, you have to be pretty fkin good, or the Marth be crud.
If both players are equally ****, though, Fox should winziez. <3

...
I hate Fox.
Stop being so hard to play... :c
 

Dekar289

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let's have pro side tourney

cao dekar kas etc etc
8 man bracket, double elim
no m2k
 
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