Ganonic Grimoire (Social) - Commiseration and Hierarchy

[Exalted]

Have I shown you guys my homage to our benevolent evil leader yet?

 

[DLA]

Cool, looks good Ex.

Verm I thought you said that you don't like doing LT tournaments?

Oh and I just realized that you replied to me on Skype about teaming at APEX... don't worry we gonna **** :D

Though we should try get a lot of practice on Wifi... a well-oiled double Ganon team sounds absolutely terrifying. We can video chat with skype and talk strategy and **** during the matches, it should be awesome.

 

[Heartstring]

Cool, looks good Ex.

Verm I thought you said that you don't like doing LT tournaments?

Oh and I just realized that you replied to me on Skype about teaming at APEX... don't worry we gonna **** :D

Though we should try get a lot of practice on Wifi... a well-oiled double Ganon team sounds absolutely terrifying. We can video chat with skype and talk strategy and **** during the matches, it should be awesome.

damnit you copycats, me and dirt are already going double ganon
wifi double ganon doubles practise for us 4? i think so

 

[Exalted]

Verm never replies on Skype. You're obviously lying.

 

[Vermanubis]

Cool, looks good Ex.

Verm I thought you said that you don't like doing LT tournaments?

Oh and I just realized that you replied to me on Skype about teaming at APEX... don't worry we gonna **** :D

Though we should try get a lot of practice on Wifi... a well-oiled double Ganon team sounds absolutely terrifying. We can video chat with skype and talk strategy and **** during the matches, it should be awesome.

I used to dislike them because it felt like a handicap, but I've come to like them 'cause it feels cool as a Ganon to, for once, be in the advantageous element.

Also, sounds good! Though, I won't have WiFi for a while. I'm gonna be moving on the 23rd , and I probably won't have WiFi set up until a week or so after we arrive, which'll be like October 7th.

 

[Heartstring]

I used to dislike them because it felt like a handicap, but I've come to like them 'cause it feels cool as a Ganon to, for once, be in the advantageous element.

Also, sounds good! Though, I won't have WiFi for a while. I'm gonna be moving on the 23rd , and I probably won't have WiFi set up until a week or so after we arrive, which'll be like October 7th.

brilliant. dibs green

 

[Mr. game and watch]

Lol @ the AiB ganon only tourny.

 

[Heartstring]

new development ganons
i swag so hard *****es fly through my window when i play ganon while listening to daft punk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LyowTzkPRzc try it

 

[Supreme Dirt]

Verm I added you on facebook, so that random Damien guy is me.

Also lol, "King of Evil at Ganondorf".

Also I'm working on a new thread for these boards. Much less a technical thread than it is a mindset thread.

 

[Heartstring]

i see
for me, the mindset is 'trample them into the ground and make them lose all hope' instead of my ike/rob mindset of 'make sure to not get stuck in a bad position (i.e: mid-low offstage for ike, above the opponenet with rob) and tack on damage untill i get a kill'
because ganon kills with everything...im honestly probably best with ganon relatively, its just the fact hes such a bad character that makes my other characters much better lol

 

[Supreme Dirt]

Well basically my thread is about putting yourself in the mindset of being a final boss.
Of a really easy game.
And getting around that to still win.

 

[Heartstring]

so essentially, the mindset of tabuu?

 

[Supreme Dirt]

No because Tabuu telegraphs himself and follows a pattern.

 

[Heartstring]

i meant the mindset of being finals boss in a realyl easy game part of it XD

 

[Supreme Dirt]

Oh lol.

Nah we're so much harder to fight than Tabuu, lol.

 

[smashkng]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjqfz2CWuAI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Gtf3eViVwo&feature=related
New vids featuring Dio, Japan's best Ganon

 

[Vermanubis]

Those were... almost a little disappointing.

Dio has such a... non-Japanese playstyle lol. He never uses anything but UAir, DAir and BAir, rarely uses Gerudo and just generally doesn't do many things a knowledgeable Ganon should do/does. He's obviously a good player, as evidenced by his quick reactions, but the fundamentals impressed me way more than the Ganon itself.

 

[Heartstring]

couldnt keep watching, i was expecting sh33r flashiness
its a good ganon, just not a fun one

 

[smashkng]

I kinda agree with Verm. Dio sure is amazingly smart and I'm impressed on how good he is at recovering. I haven't seen him missing any Flipmans. But he forgets a lot of options. For example he pretty much only Flipmans or ledge jump from the ledge. I haven't seen him abusing Dtilt. He pretty much does the basics of Ganon: punishing like a real man.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

I haven't watched the vids yet but if you were expecting flashiness from a japanese video disappointment was inevitable XD
It's typical for the japanese players to play as safely as possible and considering Dio's experience I'd say he knows what he's doing and why.

I'll be at a smashfest tomorrow, maybe I can catch some good replays of my Ganon there

 

[stingers]

ive never seen verm say anything overall positive about another ganon player -,- lol

 

[Mr. game and watch]

Except fonz

 

[Heartstring]

maybe so gheb, but with how technically inept i am, *** stuff usually feels flashy. but it was just...meh

also, i reckno at some point in the future the euro ganons needs to all rendezvouz at a tournament...i.e: me you, exalted and zigma

 

[Vermanubis]

ive never seen verm say anything overall positive about another ganon player -,- lol

That's because I've never said anything about another Ganon player except Fonz and Dio lol.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

also, i reckno at some point in the future the euro ganons needs to all rendezvouz at a tournament...i.e: me you, exalted and zigma

Who are these people? o_0
The EU-Ganons that you will actually see at tourneys are G-Man, T and myself <_<

Edit: And agiito from france

 

[smashkng]

I haven't watched the vids yet but if you were expecting flashiness from a japanese video disappointment was inevitable XD
It's typical for the japanese players to play as safely as possible and considering Dio's experience I'd say he knows what he's doing and why.

I'll be at a smashfest tomorrow, maybe I can catch some good replays of my Ganon there

This could also be the reason he did great against someone like Nietono. Risking too much with Ganon can get you be severely punished, though playing it safe with Ganon is a very tough work so I think Dio deserves a merit. Now I understand that he used a lot of Usmash because it is one of Ganon's safest moves along the Uair/Bair/Dair and why didn't use many of the other options Ganon has, though I would still mix up more Ganon's options (especially get-up from ledge) because choosing the safest choice also makes you predictable. Gerudo gets punished very hard if you miss it. He plays much safer than we do in America and Europe, but that in practice can work just as well as risking a lot. Dio is seriously arguably as good as Ganons like Verm and DLA.

 

[Heartstring]

Who are these people? o_0
The EU-Ganons that you will actually see at tourneys are G-Man, T and myself <_<

Edit: And agiito from france

exalted and zigma, you know, standard ganons on the boards, nice people, good players
...zigma is european, right?

and sure, bring them too. why are so few people who play actually on the board? so upsetting

 

[~ Gheb ~]

I never heard about them going to a tournament so chances are you won't meet them <_<

 

[Heartstring]

im honestly surprised you havent heard of them on here, considering your post count
exalted i summon thee to show you exist in europe

 

[Makke]

....................

 

[Exalted]

I would probably want to go to a tourney more than anyone, but the sad truth is, I simply can't.

And yes, I am 100% European.

 

[Noobicidal]

I actually really like Dio's Ganon, if only for the fact that mine resembles his, platform work aside. He doesn't do stupid ****, which is great.

 

[DLA]

I noticed 3 things--two good and one bad.

1. He was doing a lot of retreating short hop FF Bair -> buffered reverse Dtilt (wow that's a mouthful)... in other words he does a retreating short hop Bair, times the fast fall so he doesn't get landing lag, and then buffers a reverse Dtilt. It looks very good, I've never seen that before and it looks awesome.

2. When he was getting up from the ledge, most of the time he ledge jumped and immediately double jumped and landed with a fast fall air dodge... also very good, I've never thought of that before, it's much safer than just ledge jumping and hoping you make it down safely.

3. Japan sucks at edgeguarding.

 

[Vermanubis]

The thing that just grates on me is how many opportunities he misses to punish. I'm divided on what to make of him. He's obviously smart and knows what he's doing and he does what he does with extreme proficiency, but what he does do is so limited.

 

[Mr. game and watch]

They fight with honor.
In America you backstab your friend for a KO.

 

[Heartstring]

yeah, im not a fan of being so limited. we all have that move which isnt good, and we probably shouldnt use as much as we do. but we make it work XD
for me, it's u-smash, for some reason im so good with the boot

 

[~ Gheb ~]

They fight with honor.

No, they don't.

 

[Mr. game and watch]

Not edge guarding is honorable...

I tear it up with usmash.
Utilt.
If you make great use of that, I salute you.

 

[Exalted]

I Utilt'ed a MK out of Tornado.

Am I King of Evil yet?

 

[Breezy]

I make it a point to land at least one Utilt a tourney. Haven't missed one in months. Usually get it on randoms, but an Utilt is an Utilt.