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Thank's allot i was able to finally email the tournament host and ask (waiting on response). But thanks for the answer this makes me feel a little bit better! I'm hoping this communities game will be nice its been amazing from what i have seen so far thanks!!!
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is pretty much correct. I've never been into a tournament that never allowed beginners. The only tourneys that I know are like this are ones with pre-qualifiers, which are rare.
Yo can someone still answer my question? Tournament next Saturday, and I thought of bringing my cousin to a doubles tournament for once. Need this answered before then...
If she's going to play at a tournament, her being able to do those things will probably have zero impact towards the outcome. She's just that new. You could be setting her up for some real disappointment if you're trying to get her "tournament ready" just for her to find out she is gonna get roflstomped. She's also going to be transitioning from using a 3DS to what I am assuming is a Wii U tournament. My point is considering that most people use the C-stick to do Smash attacks and some aerials so I could recommend that she start using the C-stick but she won't have any way to practice with that. There's honestly no guides for doing aerials - those are the simplest inputs and she will just have to go to training mode and fumble around. The rest of those things you listed just come with experience.
True, she probably would get roflstomped, but that's kinda the point. I bring her to the tournament for the learning experience and just to have fun, and she already knows she would get bodied. When I was in her boat, I got bodied immediately the first few times I went to tournaments (and sometimes I still do), but there's something I learned from those guys I played with: I'm supposed to get roflstomped, that's how people learn, isn't it? And that's why I'd take a video camera with me to record her matches so she can learn from her (something I do all the time) mistakes more easily that way, and she's mainly happier to play in the friendlies before & after the tournament rather than the full event itself, so she can still learn from that too since tons of cool peeps there help me help her. And while it is a Wii U tournament with GCC setups, it does allow for people to use 3DSs as controllers too, so depending on her choice she might not have to switch. I don't exactly aim to get her "tournament ready" that fast, I meant more like "competent ready" where she's got the basics and physical execution down, so she start the real learning experience afterwards, the tournament being one of them. Just sayin.
There are 2 ways to Nair with the C-stick that I'm aware of:
If you feel too pressured to land on the stage, go for the ledge and recover that way. It's more risky (especially if you roll up the ledge), but getting past ledge pressure immediately puts you on the stage and you can go back to doing your thing.
You can probably find more information about this in the DK Character sub.
Going to a tournament - which is a lengthy affair - just to get roflstomped is arguably not a good use of time in most peoples minds, because it could make someone not want to spend another basically-full-day doing it again.
That's cool, but she could just go for the sake of playing.
Wow thanks man that is so helpful. I e-mailed the owner, he said the tourney is for everyone and i should come by and meet some friends learn how to play! and then said they also do events every Thursday as well so i'll go to that to see what's up as well. But i'll make sure to take a snack, and i'll remember to not get upset if i loose or anything xD! thanks so much!!!@
However, I do want to say ahead of time that your focus on your first tournament is to learn how everything works. Tournaments can take forever (especially if it is disorganized). Make sure you have snacks available.
Your first tournament experience will be a nerve-wrecking one. Your first match, you will feel pressured because you want to do well. This is normal, so don't worry if you start feeling tournament jitters. The best way to get rid of that is to keep playing till the end.
Finally, tournaments are actually the best way to get friendlies. Before or after the brackets happen, just step up and ask if anyone wants to play. Almost always they'll agree to it and go a few matches. Be sure to take advantage of that.
It's true that rolls are extremely difficult to deal with and it seems to be part of many things that make this a completely different kind of game vs. Melee or even Brawl. The best advice I have heard so far is that we shouldn't be trying to punish rolls outside the rare occurrence of predicting or actually reacting to them. If I anticipate a roll, I just use something extremely fast with low commitment like a jab or ftilt. I really want to stress that this is a completely normal reaction to rolls. Players with many years of Smash experience have told me that they aren't sure of what to do or what it means, so in my opinion it's best to treat this game as something completely different. The strategies that work in a typical Smash environment just don't apply here.
Kind of a noob question, would this give you tilts on the ground?
Nair is already fast, stop trying to propagate crazy controller alternatives. What is the real advantage to having c-stick set to attack? "Player preference" is not a real reason.
Take a chill pill.
C-stick set to attack does indeed mean it will do tilts instead of Smash on the ground, and if you hit diagonally while on the ground it will do a jab.
You are entertaining the lunacy of doing nairs with the c-stick. Stop. You are sending people on their way to focus on **** that neither matters nor worth taking the effort to learn. Using the c stick to do nairs is not a practical matter as opposed to setting it up for cancels.
No. A question was asked on how C-sticking Nair worked. I answered the question. That it is all. They didn't ask if it was a good idea. They didn't ask if they should bother to learn it. They asked how it worked, and they asked how it worked to figure out how to avoid using it I believe. There is nothing more to it.
Condescending would be talking sweetly down to you like you are a child. I can do that if you want.
Okay thanks, if you do not mind what are the ups and downs for fox and rosalina? I'd like to choose one of them.
Fox has a combo game that can overwhelm the majority of the characters you mentioned, also has very little landing lag which means you can retract from a mistake if you are properly deciding when to use attacks that do have lots of lag. Fox is generally a character with little to no counter matchups and is strong against the majority of the characters.
Alright thank you so much for the information, I really appreciate it!
No problem man, if you need anymore help just ask ^^
I have one last question, as you know my main is Lucina/Marth depending on the matchup if I want the tipper or not. Besides that I was going to choose fox or rosalina like you suggested, but I already know how to play link and zelda well. So If I can play Link, LucinaMarth, and zelda what character(s) would make the most sense to also side main?
I wouldn't recommend having more than 3 mains (counting Marth/Lucina as one), but if you want to then go ahead and challenge yourself! The main reason is that you won't grow as quick and will likely reach a skill cap quicker because you're juggling between the same playstyles and combos.
