wait are you sure down angled ftilt has set KB?i thought it was just really low KB with fairly low KB growth
aaand i hate using fsmash as an edgeguard, dash attack is decent though
from the ledge i've managed to get some good drop-reverse fairs/nairs. bair is reilable tho
i'm just really bad at knowing when to hit falcon during his up b. like, embarrassingly bad
it stems from me always wanting to hit my opponent again offstage (inner pika). onstage edgeguards are ghay
Well, in 64 many ftilts can be angled a number of different directions, unlike Melee which just has three - normal, high, and low - so depending on how low we're talking about changes the answer. If the ftilt is angled as low as possible it has set knockback as evidenced here-
AntD's TAS vid. However, you can angle the ftilt a bit lower without being as low as possible and it still has regular style knockback gradient, just with a bit less knockback and slightly lower angle than the regular ftilt.
Dash attack is ok, though if you miss with the strong hitbox Falcon's upb can YEHZ you. I still vote spaced bair or even dair to semi-spike them just a bit, though repeated dairs will certainly get you YEHZ'd.
I wouldn't recommend using ledge drop reverse fair, sounds like you're cruisin' for a YEHZ'n. Bair works much better if you space far enough so he can't grab your hurtbox with his ridiculous magnet-box-of-an-upb.
The best time to hit Falcon during his upb is any time other than the first few frames. Once he's at the peak of his upb jump or after he's free. Use attacks with longer hitboxes (bair, fair, uair if you can get below him when he goes high) and space farther away rather than trying to get up in his sauce; that's what he wants. YEHZ.
Fox is better at edgeguarding Falcon offstage than he is off, in my opinion. Also, if you get YEHZ'd offstage he'll generally send you back to center stage somewhere, unless you're at very high percent. If you get YEHZ'd at the ledge he may magnet pull you down and stage spike you for a low percentage KO. He's good at counter edgeguarding like that. YEHZ.
Interesting. I never really thought of why I laser when I edgeguard lol. I kinda just copied it from other people without knowing the reason why (except...I know why I laser when I'm doing an "LD" edgeguard
). I mean, I know it hits them, but I forgot that it can also pressure them, or even force them into having no choice but to go low.
I really need to learn how to not get YEHZ'd so often...
Yea, just a SHDL or two will usually cut it, try and time it just before they're out of hitstun, since that's when they'll be trying to come out with an immediate DJ Falcon Punch recovery. Sets up for easy ledgehogs or forces them onstage.
See above.
Don't be stupid, don't listen B Link.
YEHZ.