Fire Emblem: The Discussion Thread (keep FE Fates story under spoilertags)

[Elyssa Xey Hexen]

how about factoring in access to armsthrift? thats the skill that allows the nosferatu spam almost all game

If you are within the game as normal, then you can just have a finite limit be large enough to satisfy all the needs you'll need to complete a chapter.
Sorcerer -> Pair with Chrom for convoy -> Infinite Nosferatu

 

[nessokman]

I asked that question because I have Dark Knight Ricken with Mag +2, Focus, Slow Burn, Lifetaker and Luna as the skill set.

I could perhaps replace Mag +2 with Bowbreaker (Bow Knight), Tomefaire (Sage), Hit Rate +20% (Sniper) or Aegis (Paladin). I'll have to reclass him again for any of these skills, so I was asking if it might be worth the extra training.

Considering I plan on keeping him as Dark Knight since he has good Str and Mag (he's maxed), Bowfaire is useless, but any of the other skills can be good. Tomefaire could be a good replacement for Mag +2. (I might even grind all the way to get all those skills...)

Ricken is better off as a sage, it gets him i think mag +5 if using a tome. (think) and he can use staves to heal, making him with a rescue staff godly for saving units. Only thing bad with it is his mobility being lower, but it's a good tradeoff

 

[BlueSuperSonic1]

Tomefaire is definitely superior to Mag +2 as said before, and Sage has better stats overall compared to Dark Knight, only having lower Str (which isn't needed at all as a Sage), Def, and Movement. Other than that Sage is superior stats-wise to Dark Knight, especially for someone like Ricken who's stats favor Magic over Strength.

 

[Terywj [태리]]

I think I'm gonna make Owain a Trickster for kicks and giggles.

 

[Astraea31]

Anybody do a Apotheosis secret path run without limit breaker? I think it's doable, I got to like the fourth wave on like the 2nd try. Also I really wish I never married Frederick to Olivia . . . Inigo can't double anything with that -2 speed lol....

 

[BlueSuperSonic1]

Have you tried using Rally users and tonics? Those seem like they would definitely help your Inigo's problem with doubling things.

 

[Astraea31]

Have you tried using Rally users and tonics? Those seem like they would definitely help your Inigo's problem with doubling things.

Yeahhh Katarina is best rally bot <3

Also his partner is Lonqu!Severa so she can double those tricky paladin/captains.

 

[Mono.]

why is this game so broken

go sorcerer
go assassin
go hero

or go home

 

[Astraea31]

why is this game so broken

go sorcerer
go assassin
go hero

or go home

you forgot dark flier

 

[BlueSuperSonic1]

Berserkers and Sages are also pretty good in Apotheosis due to their raw firepower and good speed, along with Sage's ability to use staves. Of course, if we're strictly talking ingame, then Sorcerers, Assassins, Heroes, and Dark Fliers are probably the best classes.

 

[Mono.]

you forgot dark flier

for galeforce yeah

edit: nevermind, I take that back. dark fliers are pretty strong tied with their good mobility and a iote's shield

shame you gotta waste a slot for it but yeah still I wouldn't put it up there with the three gods at least

 

[Shadocat]

I Shouldnt have married Lissa and Libra >_> My Owain has a Higher Mag cap than Str Cap as a swordmaster, but at least he has good resistance.

 

[Shiny Mewtwo aka Jigglysir]

I Shouldnt have married Lissa and Libra >_> My Owain has a Higher Mag cap than Str Cap as a swordmaster, but at least he has good resistance.

Levin Sword!

 

[BlueSuperSonic1]

for galeforce yeah

edit: nevermind, I take that back. dark fliers are pretty strong tied with their good mobility and a iote's shield

shame you gotta waste a slot for it but yeah still I wouldn't put it up there with the three gods at least

Out of curiosity, are you basing these "three gods" on their performance ingame, on StreetPass teams, or on Apotheosis/Postgame?

 

[Astraea31]

I Shouldnt have married Lissa and Libra >_> My Owain has a Higher Mag cap than Str Cap as a swordmaster, but at least he has good resistance.

I did that too!!! Except mine is a Sorcerer...

My sword magic hand twitches!

 

[smashmachine]

Anybody do a Apotheosis secret path run without limit breaker? I think it's doable, I got to like the fourth wave on like the 2nd try. Also I really wish I never married Frederick to Olivia . . . Inigo can't double anything with that -2 speed lol....

no Limit Breaker, no Aggressor is easily doable
you probably don't even need any DLC items, honestly
(and I didn't use a single Berserker and only one Sage on that run too, funny)

 

[Astraea31]

no Limit Breaker, no Aggressor is easily doable
you probably don't even need any DLC items, honestly
(and I didn't use a single Berserker and only one Sage on that run too, funny)

I think Hero's most useful unit on that map since without +14 stats on everything (via DLC) they're the only units that can hit most units 4x with dual supports. My Gerome (berserker) hits hard, but can't hit crap due to the low skill, which is why I swapped him for Morgan. I'll probably try again after I'm done watching Avatar

Now a real challenge would be trying to do that map with only no rally or healers/first gen only/no galeforce/no forging LOL

 

[S7GF]

So I literally just started playing Fire Emblem today - borrowed my cousin's Sacred Stones for GBA.

I have to say that I haven't really played any tactical games like this. I'm on Normal and have had to restart at least 3 times. I'm on Chapter 5 right now.

 

[telemaster]

once you pop the fun dont stop yo

 

[Terywj [태리]]

So I literally just started playing Fire Emblem today - borrowed my cousin's Sacred Stones for GBA.

I have to say that I haven't really played any tactical games like this. I'm on Normal and have had to restart at least 3 times. I'm on Chapter 5 right now.

Advanced Wars doesn't even compare, but is a pretty decent analogy. Kinda.

 

[giraffelasergun]

So I just finished a run through of Awakening on normal today. I wanted to start a second run through and go through and use a bunch of the children. I struggled a little bit on Normal, and I was just wondering if Lunatic was actually a lot harder than normal or if it's manageable.

Also is it just me or are Berserkers just ridiculous.

 

[~Firefly~]

Lunatic is way harder than Hard mode. You should probably just go with Hard mode for now.

 

[BlueSuperSonic1]

Yeah. I seriously had tons of trouble on Lunatic Mode because of how powerful the enemies are at the beginning. You really need to take advantage of Frederick, Pair-Ups, and Veteran to manage the beginning. If you want to do a harder difficulty, then as Firefly suggested, you should probably just go through Hard Mode instead.

 

[NickRiddle]

Somebody here should start speed-running Awakening with me~
Once I get a time I love for Hard I'm going to learn Lunatic and try it there. It's fun!

 

[~Firefly~]

I'm actually kind of tempted. :x Don't have the means to record or anything though...

How long does a decent Hard run take?

 

[NickRiddle]

I got 1:05 before Grima's chapter. Haven't been recording any of them, but since Grima takes 1.5 turns it's probably somewhere around 1:07 for Chrom's final hit/MU's final hit... Which is where I'm assuming the run would end.

Also, talking about it would be awesome. All you really have to figure out is how to class MU...

Oh, and I'm not sure if it should be legit, but grind 50k Renown for Boots on chapter 4.
That took forever.

 

[~Firefly~]

That sounds like a pretty clean ending point for me. And an hour-long speedrun sounds a-okay to me. Now I just have to find the time to start running it...and delete one of my files. crap

 

[S7GF]

Advanced Wars doesn't even compare, but is a pretty decent analogy. Kinda.

Doesn't compare... how so?

 

[Terywj [태리]]

In terms of difficulty, Advanced Wars doesn't come close. Both series are turn based strategy but two different worlds.

 

[smashmachine]

I got 1:05 before Grima's chapter. Haven't been recording any of them, but since Grima takes 1.5 turns it's probably somewhere around 1:07 for Chrom's final hit/MU's final hit... Which is where I'm assuming the run would end.

Also, talking about it would be awesome. All you really have to figure out is how to class MU...

Oh, and I'm not sure if it should be legit, but grind 50k Renown for Boots on chapter 4.
That took forever.

oh shoot you're speedrunning this?
inb4 vykan just godmodes this game too

 

[NickRiddle]

I'm probably going to be streaming the last or second last of my test runs at twitch.tv/nickriddle
I'm down for people watching/telling me what to do/laughing at how bad I am.

 

[Ussi]

What are the rules of the speed run? People allowed to die? Has there been any unfortunate crits against you? I'm assuming you skip te enemy phase which will cut out a lot

 

[NickRiddle]

I haven't actually seen another run of the game... So I make it up. People can die but it adds the death speech to the time. In my run I use Renown and Bonus Box items too. No Bonus Box units though.

 

[NickRiddle]

Going to go live now. I'm going to try harder to look up runs for the game to see if I can find any rules or anything. It'd be fun to do it legit.
I DID find that WR's around 50 minutes... which is a bit faster than I am.

 

[Senliten]

Going to go live now. I'm going to try harder to look up runs for the game to see if I can find any rules or anything. It'd be fun to do it legit.
I DID find that WR's around 50 minutes... which is a bit faster than I am.

WR's: Abuse the hell out of galeforce and having auto skip combat/animations set to all. Oh and maybe getting lucky crits <_<

 

[NickRiddle]

Also hold down on the d-pad during text because it skips it way too fast.

 

[BlueSuperSonic1]

WR's: Abuse the hell out of galeforce and having auto skip combat/animations set to all. Oh and maybe getting lucky crits <_<

Don't forget Nosferatu tanking!

 

[Senliten]

Don't forget Nosferatu tanking!

Actually, I WANT to forget nosfer tanking ever existed.

 

[Ussi]

I remember when nosferatu tanking was a cool niche that had like 40 uses

Or for having Laura solo the dragon chapter in radiant dawn. (Except for the boss :x)

 

[nessokman]

I Shouldnt have married Lissa and Libra >_> My Owain has a Higher Mag cap than Str Cap as a swordmaster, but at least he has good resistance.

levin sword my friend-

I got 1:05 before Grima's chapter. Haven't been recording any of them, but since Grima takes 1.5 turns it's probably somewhere around 1:07 for Chrom's final hit/MU's final hit... Which is where I'm assuming the run would end.

Also, talking about it would be awesome. All you really have to figure out is how to class MU...

Oh, and I'm not sure if it should be legit, but grind 50k Renown for Boots on chapter 4.
That took forever.

the game can probably beaten in 40 mins if you do it right. Powerhouse sumia to use galeforce. The defeat the commander levels can all be done in less than 3 turns with it.

I'm on chap 17 on lunatic, anyone who struggled on hard just kill yourself now. If you think hard mode is trouble you got another thing coming.

. I found it really smooth sailing in the start, pairing chrom with Fred for a speed boost (to dodge hammer enemies) now at 17 enemies are getting counter, and because sumia's magic refused to go up, I only have maribelle as a tome weilder, and she is busy healing others...Vaike, no matter how much I wish him to die in a hole, has been undeniably useful.