Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance | Final Chapter

[Nicholas1024]

Nich: The mod directly stated to you that you got no result? Also what was the command for using your action? Also did he directly state that you can't use it again? I just want to make sure.

The mod directly stated that I had no result and cannot use my ability again. The command was census: playername.

And your other ability says you can view a dead body right? Based on the flavor that adum had gone missing and the fact that it says Adum was removed rather than murdered, do you think you can still use your ability on him?

Regarding the adum thing, you make a good point. The wording in my role PM says that it will work on a dead player whose role has not previously been revealed. So, if adum has just been abducted instead of janitored, it might not work.

Also nich this isn't true:

Why not?

 

[giraffelasergun]

How is it having no balls to agree to do something that makes sense?

I'll be expecting you to be harassing Luxor the wagon-jumper, if I'm getting harassed for this.

yeah no you can die.

unvote: vote Raziek

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

I responded to them near the end of d1. He liked my response and dropped his suspicion. Which is why it's off for him to be voting me now.

1. He said that he was suspicious of me not answering his questions.
2. He decides to let me live because I could clear someone.
3. He changes his mind because I continue to ignore him.
4. I answer him, he drops his suspicion.
5. He votes for me again.

I've already answered him and he's dropped his suspicion from that, so it makes no sense for him to be voting me now.

I did not drop my suspicion. Your responses were adequate in the sense that you weren't ignoring me like you had been, and your promise to provide some "clear" toDay is why I didn't run you into the ground.

I'm asking you to explain statements you've already made. I don't know where you see rolefishing -- I just want to figure out if you're scum. Well, I suppose scumhunting is a very specific type of rolefishing, though, isn't it? So in that sense you're certainly correct.

Answer my questions.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

Going to class. X1, can you try to have the OS case or whatever you'll be showcasing for tonight? Would appreciate it.

 

[Beat!]

Ran, next time you're on, talk about what people have said about you this Day. Zen says you just ask questions for the sake of asking questions. What do you think about that?
Also, who do you wanna lynch toDay?

Luxor, is Raz your strongest scum pick toDay? If no, then who is? If yes, then why aren't you voting him?

Will decide between Ran and Raz after Ran's response.

 

[Xivii]

I can't believe I just deleted that -_______-

 

[Xivii]

I did not drop my suspicion.

Then what was your suspicion for? Are you still on the Gordito **** from the beginning of the day? I was working with what we've had. I had long since changed my view on him.

Your responses were adequate in the sense that you weren't ignoring me like you had been, and your promise to provide some "clear" toDay is why I didn't run you into the ground.

I didn't promise any thing. I said I could clear someone. Key word being 'could'. Info I'm not willing to share yet as things haven't gone as I thought. And I'm tired of you trying to force me to for no reason.

Answer my questions.

I did.

 

[Xivii]

@Ryu: Based on the way he has presented, yeah. He's been specific and constant with his claim whcih seems legit to me.

@Nich: Because people can simply tailor the way they play. As scum, the guy could simply play actively since it is known that he lurks as scum. And as town he could simply be inactive for another reason. Meta in that sense shouldn't be used as reason to lynch someone. Like how you're not tunneling this game even though you always do as town. Based on your reasoning, you're not town this game and we should lynch you.

 

[Xivii]

we had*

 

[Xivii]

Beat, Raz would be a total waste of vote. Did you not read what I said? Choose Ran or someone else.

 

[Cdubs1987]

@ Rajam's #1205

http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=12150222&postcount=1205

Ignore my post, I misread what Nich's ability does, and therefore created an entirely stupid analysis of the situation. I get now why role blocking him would make total sense. I return to my sentiments of D1 of Nich most likely being town.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

I'm gonna need to think about this more, Zen is null with me atm, but I still find X1 scummy as all hell still.

 

[Xivii]

Ryu was I null in your #1240? Or has your opinion changed >_>?

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Yes, but I was curious as to why you thought so to get an answer for that. Also as far as scum is concerned you far lower than most people are atm.

Currently looking at X1, and Nich. I'm not sure I can buy Nich's claim yet, it seems convenient and the easiest way to avoid a straight answer if he was scum.

 

[Xiivi]

8/14|02.17.10 11:59PM EST

votee|voters
Overswarm|Rajam/

Ranmaru|BeatStick/Zεη/

Beatstick|Nicholas1024/

X1-12|Ranmaru/

Zεη|Nabe/X1-12/

Raziek|giraffelasergun/

No Vote|Cdubs1987/Raziek/frozenflame751/Luxor/Red Ryu/Overswarm/

 

[Luxor]

Luxor, is Raz your strongest scum pick toDay? If no, then who is? If yes, then why aren't you voting him?

Raz and Zen are both looking bad. Ran looks bad too, but the other two are looking worse now and are higher up on my hitlist. I'd like to see some more evidence for one of those three before I vote, though.

 

[Xivii]

Raz and Zen are both looking bad. Ran looks bad too, but the other two are looking worse now and are higher up on my hitlist. I'd like to see some more evidence for one of those three before I vote, though.

How so? For all three.

Did you ever answer what you were not liking about my play at some point yesterday?

 

[Luxor]

I answered it briefly (I didn't like your rather arbitrary pronouncements without any reasoning, among other things) but I didn't do a post-by-post like I meant to, which I could do now if you'd like.

Other short answers:
Ran is scummy because Glyph was scummy and Ran hasn't made himself any less scummy.
Raz is just scummy lol.

 

[Xivii]

Any claimed power roles (no matter how silly) should be directed by GLG rather than their holder or any other town member, as GLG is confirmed town.

Assuming they are directed.

...were you serious about this?

 

[Xivii]

I answered it briefly (I didn't like your rather arbitrary pronouncements without any reasoning, among other things) but I didn't do a post-by-post like I meant to, which I could do now if you'd like.

Other short answers:
Ran is scummy because Glyph was scummy and Ran hasn't made himself any less scummy.
Raz is just scummy lol.

Yes do it now please. Is that the only reason you see me as looking bad?

What did you agree with on with on Glyph again? Specific points. Also why were you not willing to vote for Ran yesterday if you still felt he was scummy?

 

[Xivii]

FoS: Raziek

I don't like that post. At all. Might vote you, but I wanna hear more from Ran first.

What? Why????

I'm about willing to join Nich in this wagon. You've been making so many points that just make no sense at all.

 

[Luxor]

c-c-c-c-combo breaker

What did you agree with on with on Glyph again? Specific points. Also why were you not willing to vote for Ran yesterDay if you still felt he was scummy?

@bold: wat da

@Ranpoint: Pragmatism, Nich or GLG were more likely to be lynched.

 

[Beat!]

What? Why????

I'm about willing to join Nich in this wagon. You've been making so many points that just make no sense at all.

Nabe I don't see how that is important if you are town. I wanted beat to live because I think he is town.

Err..... so because of that one post I went from "town" to "making so many points that just make no sense at all"? Lol. Why are you being so weird toDay? If you think I've made so many bad points, why didn't you say anything until now?

I didn't like Raz's post because of the "he's being scummy too!!! Look at him instead!" nature of it.

 

[Rajam]

Nabe do you have more suspects besides Zen? Seems like you've tunneled him the whole game

Ranmaru: Do you even follow your random questions? Would like to hear who do you think is scum and why (make a case)

OS is just avoiding things, you still ahven't said anything about Ranmaru despite I'm asking you since Day 1

 

[Rajam]

http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=12147651&postcount=1198

First deadline was Jan 27th at 11:59 am. Ranmaru voted Nich Jan 26th at 18:45, when Nich had no vote or wagon on him, then Ran posted something else a little after that, and disappeared until Jan 27th around 18:00 hours, so basically, at the first deadline we can assume he wasn't worried at all if there was a lynch or not.

Second deadline, Feb 1st at 11:59 am, Ranmaru AGAIN left a vote on a player (X1-12) with no votes or wagon previously, or any chance of being lynched, the previous day (Jan 31st, 20:27 hrs). He then came back on Feb 1st at 16:30 hrs or something like that. I also checked and he left no jonhs or excuses in advance about being away, so, no johns. He almost left us without a lynch twice and he didn't care

unvote
vote: Ranmaru

Also, I'm not forgetting OS speech of "is either Nich or glg, but I think Nich is town so it's glg" so:

FoS: Overswarm

 

[Overswarm]

Still haven't had time to read up yet, but:

Also, I'm not forgetting OS speech of "is either Nich or glg, but I think Nich is town so it's glg" so:

FoS: Overswarm

Feel free to tell me how it wasn't.

 

[Rajam]

Gonna check how much time left we had when you started to say this, but I'm most worried by the fact that you presented two options of which you immediatly discarded one because you saw him as town

And what do you think of Ranmaru?

 

[Xivii]

c-c-c-c-combo breaker



@bold: wat da

@Ranpoint: Pragmatism, Nich or GLG were more likely to be lynched.

Can you seriously not interpret what I was trying to say? What points did you agree with against Glyph?

Err..... so because of that one post I went from "town" to "making so many points that just make no sense at all"? Lol. Why are you being so weird toDay? If you think I've made so many bad points, why didn't you say anything until now?

I didn't like Raz's post because of the "he's being scummy too!!! Look at him instead!" nature of it.

At the time of #1251 I had only read up to #1125. I was fully caught up by that last post. And a lot of your reasoning is very baseless. There comes a point when it needs to be recognized.

What do you think is scummy about Raz that isn't from the beginning of the game? Be specific. Not just general statements.

 

[Beat!]

Because instead of trying to respond to X1, Raz basically said "nothing wrong with what I did, now go ask Luxor stuff instead". It looked like he was just trying to put focus somewhere else.

Please point out my "baseless reasoning" so I can clarify if needed/possible.

 

[Luxor]

Can you seriously not interpret what I was trying to say?

The phrase "with on with on" is meaningless to me.

 

[ranmaru]

I'll post something tonite. (From my post's questions to this page)

Sorry, I have been busy this week. Got class in two hours.

I have read the thread, but will take the time to post.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

I'll wait for that post before I figure out Ranmaru.

 

[giraffelasergun]

Right now I would definitely support a Raz, Beat, Ran and OS Lynch.

I like Rajam's point on Ran that he was one of the few people that were making votes in the end of the day that pretty much would lead to a no lynch and there were a few people who were also doing things like that and I'll need to reread it.

I already stated my reasoning behind an OS lynch, but I'd be willing to let him live a Day longer.

Nabe, of those four who would you pick for todays lynch?

 

[X1-12]

glg put those 4 lynch candidates into order you want them gone.

 

[giraffelasergun]

Raz, Beat, Ran, Os.

 

[Cdubs1987]

balls, I thought I posted earlier today.

@ Nabe, I would hold off on pestering Zen.

Guys I disagree with the Raz lynch. I think he is being more newbie than scum. I also am unsure about how I feel on beat. If GLG had flipped scum I would be on Beat like white on rice.

I do however support both a ran and OS lynch. I would prefer OS but I'm OK with Ran. Will post more later.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

Then what was your suspicion for? Are you still on the Gordito **** from the beginning of the day? I was working with what we've had. I had long since changed my view on him.

Zen. Pay very close attention.

I asked you questions in 170; questions about Beat. Instead of answering them, you flatout said "Nabe, I can clear someone as town or scum by tomorrow." My reply was "Alright, that's a strong statement, so I'll let you not answer my questions until toMorrow." I assumed (rightfully so) that secrecy of some nature to do with my questions was necessary to you "clearing someone". (Note that these three posts are quoted in 1223 for reference.) Otherwise, you wouldn't have a reason not to answer my questions. Is that not a fair assessment? Furthermore, what motive would you have to make such a bold statement out of nowhere? It had to have something to do with what I'd asked you.

Later in the Day, I asked you if things were on track with "clearing someone". You told me "Yes, but not the same person." Cryptic, don't you think? But again, I assumed that this was a statement that would make sense toDay, given the strength of your statement about "clearing someone".

ToDay, I asked you about it. You said, "No, what would that have to do with anything? It's not important." Then you say, "I wanted Beat to live because I thought he was town." Then why did you delay answering the questions I asked to begin with? They seem like very simple questions to me, and you've given me an easy answer to them now. So that begs the question: what was the point of all this? What was the motive to make that statement about the clear over a question that was literally no pressure?

That leaves us with the questions in 1229. Surely you can clarify statements you've already made? A large part of Mafia is being accountable for the things that you say. I probably sound like a broken record, but it's no less true than it was the first time I said it, and you keep exhibiting these same behaviours again and again. It's piling up.

 

[Luxor]

I'm cool with a Raz or Ran lynch. Not with Beat/OS. Zen is looking scummiest toDay though.

 

[#HBC | FrozeηFlame]

http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=12151609&postcount=1223

This exchange is indeed important. What's with all the dodging Zen?

http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=12152222&postcount=1232

Dude, you ****ing functionally claimed a PR, said you could literally clear or condemn someone by today, and then refuse to give results? What the hell?

He's not even asking you to claim what your power/plan/role is. All he's asking for is the clear/condemn you promised. How does that at all constitute role fishing? He's not asking you for any more information than what you've already publicly claimed. This is crazy kneejerky.

http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=12153323&postcount=1247

Whats with this non-cooperation? What are you so afraid of and why are you being so dodgy about the whole thing? You've already functionally claim some sort of PR. Any anti-town people already know this. How is telling us who you cleared/condemned or just flat out that you failed in whatever you were trying to do going to put you in any more of a dangerous position. That's all that he was asking for, results, not the means by which you attained them.

Did you get a clear or a guilty or not? If you didn't get any results and you were overstating your ability, just say so. Don't jerk us around. If you need more time to actually get the info you claimed you could have, just say so. If you were sabotaged some how, just say so. Like I seriously don't understand why you are trying to cover up this whole thing and push Nabe away when he has very legitimate reasons for following up and asking you for results that you claimed you would have by now. Like seriously wtf.

And btw even though didn't explicitly say "I promise I'll have a clear", you said "I can clear someone or catch scum by tomorrow" which on its own implies that you definitely have the ability to do so, so don't get all bent out of shape because someone is expecting you to follow through with that claim. Your language was extremely indicative of you having a strong chance of producing the results you claimed to be able to get.

Vote: Zen until he clears this **** up.

@ Red Ryu: So you think that Vult was forced to revive GLG last night and that the mafia targeted him specifically? Just asking for clarification.

@ GLG: http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=12161548&postcount=1273

Why Beat and OS? You said you already explained why OS, so if you could link to that that'd be awesome.

@ Cdubs: http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=12163240&postcount=1276

Wtf why should Nabe not pester Zen for very blatantly refusing to follow up on his claim from yesterday?

@ X1: http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=12150472&postcount=1206

Compared to your average SWF player? I'd say he's on par. Most of his mafia experience is in IRL so in terms of experience with different roles and complex setups, I'd say he probably has a little bit more than your typical SWF player. He has prior forum experience but it isn't extensive so in terms of expressing himself in a forum setting I'd say he's probably a bit behind your average player here. In terms of analysis skills and logical command, I'd say he's above average, but in terms of ability to maintain consistent activity, I'd say he's below average, but he's handicapped in that regard because of RL johns relating to school work and just his lack of experience with games this large and with a pace this fast.

So yeah, short answer, he's just as good as your average player here in general, but definitely a little bit better in some aspects and slightly weaker in others.

Apologies but I must once again declare V/LA until Monday night. Traveling to a debate tournament in Amherst, MA and will have significantly limited access while there.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

@Luxor, what your opinion on X1's behavior though this game?