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Rajam

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Who is "everyone"?

Zen isn't the play toDay. Depending on some flips, could be later

Why not lynching Ran toDay anyways? He threw suspicion on X1, Luxor and Nich, voted Nich, and went away; he has been away while the heat on Nich has been increasing... also nothing he has done so far has alleviated my scum read on Glyph, he is just walls of texts parroting around and doing random irrelevant questions

Moving back on him because he needs to go

unvote
vote: Ranmaru


*Workin on Nich's case now*
 

Vult Redux

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I don't see how answering OS's question was scummy, but oh well.
Not bothering to try to understand why Nabeshin found the post scummy.

Reframing Nabe's reasoning as "because I answered the question" even though he knows that's not the case.

And then sweeping the accusation under the rug without even questioning it.

What kind of Town player does this?
 

Vult Redux

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Why not lynching Ran toDay anyways? He threw suspicion on X1, Luxor and Nich, voted Nich, and went away; he has been away while the heat on Nich has been increasing... also nothing he has done so far has alleviated my scum read on Glyph, he is just walls of texts parroting around and doing random irrelevant questions

Moving back on him because he needs to go

unvote
vote: Ranmaru


*Workin on Nich's case now*
It's taking a lot of restraint on my part to not see this as scum deliberately throwing more lynch ideas on the table in an attempt to scramble and split the Town's votes even more than they already are.

Please convince me otherwise.
 

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Beat was right, we are going to end up with no lynch lol.

Players I'm cool with lynching/wagoning:
GLG
*Zen
Nich is town, but better lynch than nothing
Maybe Ran

*I'm really not a fan of Zen's play but since he's implying he's a mason w/ X1 I guess we need the cop to investigate them. Or something.

Interesting comments of interest:
  • Rajam's been on Glyph/Ran's case like a bloodhound ever since his first anti-Glyph post
  • Cdubs' first REAL post a page ago takes a popular stance on unpopular GLG, what a surprise
  • Nabe left my 100% town list
  • toMorrow the Zen/X1 thing needs to be dealt with in much more depth
 

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Beat was right, we are going to end up with no lynch lol.

Players I'm cool with lynching/wagoning:
GLG
*Zen
Nich is town, but better lynch than nothing
Maybe Ran

*I'm really not a fan of Zen's play but since he's implying he's a mason w/ X1 I guess we need the cop to investigate them. Or something.

Interesting comments of interest:
  • Rajam's been on Glyph/Ran's case like a bloodhound ever since his first anti-Glyph post
  • Cdubs' first REAL post a page ago takes a popular stance on unpopular GLG, what a surprise
  • Nabe left my 100% town list
  • toMorrow the Zen/X1 thing needs to be dealt with in much more depth
Can you vote Nich now?
 

Beat!

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Scummy.

Wouldn't that make a GLG lynch appeal to you more since he already has claimed?

Zen has implied a lot of things iirc.[/QUOTE]

What are you talking about? You make it sound like Zen and GLG are the only two possible lynch targets. I support a Nich lynch.
 

Nicholas1024

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Don't let Zen and Beatstick bully you into a mislynch, Luxor. We've got over 48 hours to secure a scum lynch, so it's hardly a time to switch votes for fear of deadline.

@Nabe
No, I haven't done a lot of work to lynch Zen... yet. Right now I've been pointing out the flaws in his case (and a couple of small inconsistencies in his play from time to time), but I'm beginning to feel scum from him. He's my target for D2, D1 I'm going to strip his support by lynching GLG.
 

Nicholas1024

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However, Nich has made one post that really stuck out to me implying he is scum. (#182)



I might be wrong, but I don't think anyone pointed this out. Basically Nich is saying, "X-1 is scummy for pushing gord wagon real hard, but I still think gord is scum".

@ Nich. When saying this, were you assuming that X-1 was just trying to make it look like he was grilling his scum partner to then confirm him town?
The interaction between X1 and Gord looked really fake at that point. I didn't like the standard tell thing X1 was going with (it makes a good deal more sense as a gambit), and I didn't like the way Gord reacted to pressure. So yeah, at the time I thought it was a bus.
 

Overswarm

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We're lynching Zen, X1, or GLG today.


Zen has been scummy and active.

X1 has been scummy and hides.

GLG has been scummy in both himself and his replacement, and switches between activity and inactivity.

X1's scumminess mostly comes from his early play and strategic inactivity. GLG's scumminess comes from his strategic inactivity and his desperate attempt to say the right thing ("I think X should be lynched, but I'd be totally okay with the other player you're talking about!") on a constant basis. Zen's scumminess comes from his constant anti-town play (pushing towards a no-lynch with every one of his actions, making 180º turns, soft claiming things like mason for no reason, super aggression to try to prevent people to attack him, attacking anyone who pressures him, etc., etc.

X1 won't get lynched today, so I'll remove him.

Zen or GLG.

Go.
 

giraffelasergun

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OS, I've made two posts that are your "constant basis" of trying to be saying the right things. You make it sound like every post I make it sweet butter up please read me as town guis I swear I am!

@Vult: I did try to understand why Nabe found that post scummy, and I just write that off as nabe being nabe who just says things like that about me all the time. I was questioning his accusation though.
 

Overswarm

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Everyone should be voting in their next posts. Don't post unless you're voting. We need to get a lynch.

unvote vote: GLG

Because I don't know where my vote is right now.
 

giraffelasergun

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unvote vote: GLG
lynching me would actually be the most helpful thing for the town today. Also, if I made it to lylo I'd probably lose the game for us(and by that I mean i'd be lynched then) so we might as well just do it now.

If you guys could, I'd appreciate it if OS and Beatstick were looked at more toMorrow. People who make posts like these:

I feel that Nich's wagon grew way too fast out of nowhere. Still not comfortable with Nich lynch.
I'd rather lynch Zen than Nich. -_-;;

WHY is everyone after Nich? I don't understand it at all. I haven't seen one post that is even remotely convincing. It's just a ton of groupthink off of bad thinking.
why does everyone want to lynch zen but no one is voting for him o_O
We'll never get someone lynched if we continue like this ._.
are definetely scum and need to either be lynched or at least seriously considered to be looked at.

Also, overswarm I find it funny you find it necessary to post twice within an hour to say the same thing lol.
 

Beat!

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You want to get lynched?

I'd still rather lynch Nich, but that won't happen either, it seems. Although I guess a person who thinks he can't be of any more help and self votes, is a good lynch too.

GLG, if you're town, why wouldn't you try to get scum lynched rather than giving up like that?

Not gonna vote GLG as long as there are other possibilities.
 

Xiivi

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votee|voters
Overswarm|X1-12/

giraffelasergun|Vult Redux/Nicholas1024/Cdubs1987/Luxor/Overswarm/giraffelasergun/

Nicholas1024|Ranmaru/Zεη/BeatStick/Red Ryu/Nabe/

Red Ryu|frozenflame751/Raziek/adumbrodeus/

Ranmaru|Rajam/

No Vote|No One
 

#HBC | Nabe

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No, I haven't done a lot of work to lynch Zen... yet. Right now I've been pointing out the flaws in his case (and a couple of small inconsistencies in his play from time to time), but I'm beginning to feel scum from him. He's my target for D2, D1 I'm going to strip his support by lynching GLG.
lol, let's try this again.
Did. you. read. my. 521? Do so. If you're lynched, then it doesn't much matter who your target for D2 is. "Strip his support" is the scummiest thing I've read in a long while. That's honestly your motive for a GLG lynch? Get lynched.

I haaaaaate the GLG lynch. Kid is town town town, town to the core. Town in the worst possible way, but town. A policy lynch of GLG on D1 is always warranted, but he's not scum.

Nich is diverting attention from his own lynch onto GLG. Like I said above, what the hell is that motive? "I can't get people to lynch Zen, so I'll take out the people that support him." This is actually a legitimate play? People are actually on-board with this? Someone frame this for me in a way that doesn't scream scum.

Luxor - which lynch do you actually prefer? Why do you do what people ask you? Why do you think that Nich is town? If you think he's town, why did you vote for him when Zen asked?
 

giraffelasergun

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GLG, if you're town, why wouldn't you try to get scum lynched rather than giving up like that?
1. To help the town gain information on my flip since basically everyone has given a stance on me.

2. Because I'm not going to make it to end game so I might as well go now.
 

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glg if Nich flips scum, you wont have to worry about being lynched later on really. I doubt anyone thinks if Nich flipped scum, you would be scum as well.

Stop being a *****. We need you.
 

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Luxor you never explained the things you didn't like about me the past few days. I'm not always the best at explaining my thought process, so if there's something you don't understand can you please explain?

OS why do you think Nich is town? You haven't said so once. Luxor neither have you. In fact no one who is saying that they think Nich is town is explaining why, yet you're fighting so hard against his lynch.
 

giraffelasergun

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Unvote Vote: Nich

Overswarm, if gord were to have posted "I'm dying tomorrow so I need to sub out" would you still consider that scummy?
 

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@Zen: Will give an adequate response tomorrow during math class.

This post is mainly to express my confusion @GLG voting then unvoting himself. Go through with the lynch.
 

Nicholas1024

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lol, let's try this again.
Did. you. read. my. 521? Do so. If you're lynched, then it doesn't much matter who your target for D2 is. "Strip his support" is the scummiest thing I've read in a long while. That's honestly your motive for a GLG lynch? Get lynched.
I must have missed your 521 initially in the reread fiasco. Anyway, I read it, and although it raises some good points, those aren't exactly why I think Zen is scum. (I'll bring a case around on D2. If the lynch swings around on me, I suppose I'll bring it later toDay, but I'd rather start focusing on Zen D2.) Anyway, the way I see it, GLG is either:

1) Zen's scumbuddy
2) Dumb town that Zen/other scum can easily manipulate.

I think 1 is more likely, but either way I think a lynch on him is beneficial.

I haaaaaate the GLG lynch. Kid is town town town, town to the core. Town in the worst possible way, but town. A policy lynch of GLG on D1 is always warranted, but he's not scum.
Aren't the bolded parts here contradictory?

Nich is diverting attention from his own lynch onto GLG.
You know, somebody has to be the D1 lynch. GLG is the person I think is the best lynch for today.

Like I said above, what the hell is that motive? "I can't get people to lynch Zen, so I'll take out the people that support him." This is actually a legitimate play? People are actually on-board with this? Someone frame this for me in a way that doesn't scream scum.
No, it's "I can't lynch Zen toDay, so I'll settle for a weaker scumbuddy and take him out tomorrow."


@Zen
You know, when I flip town people would lynch GLG anyway. Anyway, just so people know that I have some basis behind my Zen suspicion, there are two main reasons so far that I feel you're scummy.

1) Meta. Your play here is way different from anything I've seen from you, town or scum. However, your town play just a few games back in Mario Kart mafia was MVP-worthy (Marshy said you'd have been a candidate if you hadn't died N2). So, why switch it up? On the other hand, there's good reason to switch up your scumplay, as it prevents people from easily using meta to conclude "Yep, he's scum."

2) Inconsistencies in your play. Here's three off the top of my head.
-You hated it in past games when I tunneled, and yet you're doing a huge one on me right now.
-You went after me for pursuing an easy case (Raziek), and yet the two cases you've pushed this game (Gord and me), both looked to be easy targets.
-You've were the #1 candidate behind Gord scum, and have admitted that GLG's case on me is awful, and yet all of a sudden you're a champion of GLG-town.
 

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@Zen: I still think Ran is a good play. I admit I've skimmed a little his last posts, but I read his 517 and 519 and mostly, if not all of the questions there, are just focused to provoke wishy washy/OMGUS/WIFOMing reactions.

@Ran: You said my accusations on Glyph were dumb at the end of your 519. Give details, since I haven't seen you addressing my case. I don't know how lack of scumhunt, addressing easy issues (which is the same as saying bland content) and unnatural town reactions are dumb. Also, stop asking questions just because, most of them don't help at all.
No, I'm sorry. Whenever I said "dumb", I meant Glyphs actions were dumb. Meaning not scummy. Quote my WHOLE responses to you and I will reply back to them.

I did address your case. Go back and quote the whole thing.

@Nich:

Nich, Zen tunneled in SC as well, just not on me last time. I already had pressure on me anyways.
 

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Nich:

-I was scum last game when I was brutally dissing your tunneling. You realize that, yes? Also not following through with suspicions is not the same as simply not tunneling. Not tunneling means you don't tunnel.
-Both cases were originally mine. There was absolutely nothing original about your case on Raz. Raz is a noob. You and Gord are not.
-To be able to catch scum in just a few posts would be cool, but unfortunately I have no such ability. Having an open mind is how a townie should play.
 

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Also Rajam I won't stop asking questions. Just don't read it.
 

Beat!

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Rajam and X1, it's very unlikely that Ran lynch/OS lynch will get enough support in time. Please vote for someone who actually might end up lynched.
 

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Zen, wrt to your response to Frozen Flame about you meta'ing me... Can you explain how I looked at an example from multiple angles, and how I only looked at things from one angle before reading? (Although, it seems logical that I could be biased before reading, but please explain anyways)

Also, what do you think of your followers, Beatstick, and Luxor?
 

Beat!

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Also Rajam I won't stop asking questions. Just don't read it.
"Just don't read it". Lol. So you won't mind if he ignores you when you ask him stuff? You sound like you even encourage it.

Why would you even ask something if you're fine with people "just not reading it"? Doesn't sound like an important question to me.
 

Rajam

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Rajam and X1, it's very unlikely that Ran lynch/OS lynch will get enough support in time. Please vote for someone who actually might end up lynched.
Can we go Red Ryu then? I'm reading on Nich, but I'm not finding him particularly scummy, at least, not more scummy than RR and Ran

I'm ready to lynch glg too, we don't need people who vote themselves
 

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I have been busy. School work, gf, etc. : D

Anyways, I'll make sure to make a good decision by the first of Feb. I still want Nich dead.

Ok that's fine.
 

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@ Beastick:

That was in response to this:

"Also, stop asking questions just because, most of them don't help at all."


I will keep asking questions. Why would I want people to ignore them?

If he did ignore a question that would need answering, I would ask him again. You have to be persistent when someone ignores your questions.
 
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