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[Xivii]

cdubs upon a glg flip why would you then persue raz and not continue to persue OS?

 

[Xivii]

Nabe @ that one post:

Hm I could see a similarity in that ff6 post you quoted. But yeah I just always play this way as town and sometimes that way as scum. Like I said if you simply skim a recent game of mine such as SC then you will know it can not be treated as a scumtell.

As for the Gord bit I feel that I've answered most of that. I'm not even sure on my read on glg anymore. And I've pretty much dropped Gordito from my mind. Also the game I was using to compare his play is still going on. That game was the main reason I felt he was scum here because he reacted totally different there.

 

[Cdubs1987]

I would still be willing to persue OS. I wouldn't think it unlikely that Raz and OS to be scum partners. If GLG is scum, I don't get the vibe that Raz would have bussed his partner without good reason at the time, especially with the "go with the flow" even though it seemed aggressive to him. If GLG is scum for the time being I would assume Raz town, or at least not his scum partner. If GLG is town, I would want to lynch Raziek (as I do now). In either scenario, I would still be happy to lynch OS. I think Os has been trying to ad hominem the crap out of me since my case against him started. He straw man'd and equivocated parts of my argument, essentially trying to make me look dumb, I think in for the purpose of discouraging people from giving any merit to my argument. Since then all his contribution has looked legitimate (admittedly he has contributed way more than myself) but I still feel some of it is ingenuine. Again sorry about the limited number of posts at the moment.

 

[Overswarm]

I don't have to make you look dumb, you're good at looking useless on your own. Useless is worse.

Stop posting about how you're sorry for lack of content and start posting content.

 

[Xivii]

I'm really not happy at the way the game's going right now.


Have you noticed that I lack scum motivation as well? Blast it, if I were scum I'd have been tunneling on GLG/X1 the whole day to mimic the way I've played as town for the past 20 games.

Nich, tunneling is known as a town tell for you. So for you to say if you were scum, you would be tunneling is contradictory to the evidence of presented in the majority of your games.

Lack scum motivation? How would one be able to determine this?

We can determine that you lack town motivation because of your lack of scumhunting and your jumping on weak points. But to say that you have a lack of scum motivation is weird. We don't know that. If anything, the way you have been playing leans more towards a scum playstyle...

I said in one of my very first posts that I was going to make a conscious effort to try NOT to tunnel this game. So yeah, compared to my normal play they'll look like that.

Not tunneling isn't the same as not persuing your thoughts and cases. Since you've been playing this way, it leads me to believe that you only mentioned this at the beginning because you knew you wouldn't be able to get away with your tunneling this game because you're scum. It's not easy to fake reckless town, and scum don't want that kind of attention.

Says the person who pushes a deadline lynch on someone with several people hating him already (Beatstick and GLG already hated me, and Raz can easily be persuaded since I called him out as scum), who has admitted to being behind on the game, and is also by his own admission unavaiable to post for 12 hours (which is a lot at deadline) And that's not even mentioning the gord wagon you pushed for the first 20 pages. Yay hypocrisy...

None of this but the first line relates to the point at all. You're just rambling now which shows me you have no real line of thought, you're simply posing. As for why I am not the same as you: I've taken strong stances on various people.
-The only person that was pointing suspicion in your direction was glg.
-The only person pointing suspicion at Gord when I made my cass was no one.

-Where as everything that you had mentioned on Raz had already been pointed out multiple times. Then you come in like you were making some whole new case. Also that line where you were like "I just searched thix guys posts and found some interesting things" (somethhng like that) is where I got my first major bit of suspicion on you. That whole line is basically saying " hey look at me I'm doing something gaiz". Furthermore, you had hardly commented on the things going on around you. It would make sense if you were scumhunting and making a catch up post and then wanted to reiterate the points on Raz, but you showed no sign of involvement anywhere else which shows me that you just randomly picked something you could put your vote on and show that you were here.

So I went too far to avoid tunneling.


Because frankly, I need to reread, and I lack the motivation to do it. That's a constant problem for me regardless of alignment, and one of the reasons I usually tunnel so much (pushing the same points is a lot easier than going back to find new ones.)

You don't have to go back. You can create new ones by asking questions and staying involved with current affairs.

I changed my mind after looking back at the evidence and judging it for myself. Also known as avoiding tunneling. Which I said I was going to do in one of my first posts. I'm really starting to question your intelligence and your towniness. (And in before Oh-my-gosh-you-suck accusations)

I will wear the dunce hat if you flip town
But we don't really have to worry about that.

Because he's scum and by process of elimination? (Semi-serious here)

What?

I have solid interaction with Gord/GLG, you, X1, Raziek, and have clearly aligned myself with Overswarm.

The first 4 will be cleared upon your flip. You and OS' "friendship" is a scum gambit. You're both scum.

By the way Zen, I should thank you in one way for attacking me. It's definitely given me some motivation.

Welcome


@All: Please lynch Nich :o

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

'kay. 682 and 685 were both reasonable responses.
Unvote, Vote: Nicholas

Is whatever you were talking about in 172 still on track, Zen?

 

[Xivii]

Yes. Just not the same person.

 

[Vult Redux]

The point you ignored:

1. "Hi x1. V: x1"

2. "I only vote to seal the deal after talking for pressure."

You're lying in 2. That's the point. You have reasoning now, but then you were simply making an accusations. All liars should die in mafia.

No, not all liars should die. Only liars whose lies appear to be scum-motivated. AND I read this as a Town fault rather than a Scum contradiction.

I reread lots on Nich and I'm not understanding why his is a better wagon than GLG. (And it's certainly NOT for the lame reasons GLG brings up against him in 210.)

 

[Xivii]

Wow Luxor probably isn't town with scum Nich. If Nich flips scum we should look a lot into: Luxor, OS, Rajam, and Nabe. Maybe Vult if not Rajam. I'd be pretty stunned if at least a couple of his scumbuddies didn't reside in that group.

Also we need to pay more attention to voting patterns tomorrow. It's ok for today, but tomorrow we could probably clear 1 or 2 people based on who's voting and flips.

 

[Luxor]

Zen, I don't really like a lot of your somewhat arbitrary statements lately. Moar reasoning in your posts, please?

I want to think Nich is scummy from all that tunneling, but apparently that's his normal town playstyle so I'm not sure what to make of him. GLG's #680 is good.

Rereading GLG, I'm liking him less and less. His posts are repetitive and full of fluff, apart from that one I linked where he attacks Nich which is really null.

@OS: The reason why I'm 'in the shadows' is a lot of times I'll read the thread and I'll have the exact same stances as my previous read and I don't want to make eighteen posts going "yeah nich's still scum blah blah blah".

His excuse for posting fluff is that he's out of content to say. That's possibly the worst thing I have ever heard read. He also pushed a Raz lynch earlier, which doesn't strike me as *good*. He's also nitpicky:

More importantly, you have yet to answer my original question. Why did you react differently to ranmaru replying to early posts then to rajam replying to early posts?

I'd be open to a GLG lynch.
Or a Vult lynch.
Not a Beat lynch, OS lynch, and not an X1 lynch YET. X1 toMorrow MAYBE. I wanna see more from him.

 

[#HBC | FrozeηFlame]

@ Zen: http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=12064480&postcount=603

When did you decide to start using SC mafia meta on Ranmaru, because your original stance on him made me think you weren't paying attention to that at all. Why the sudden change over?

http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=12064609&postcount=607

This is a bold statement. Nich summiest of the day? No idea where you're coming from on that. If you're going to seriously contend that you're going to need more than just some OMGUS criticism.

@ Zen: http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=12063541&postcount=597

This post seems really forced and though I agree the initial vote on X1 does seem slightly incongruous with OS's current stance on vote usage, I don't think it's as crazy a departure from the stance as you're trying to make it. I see where you're coming from but calling OS a "liar" and then making a lot of the logic jumps you did in that post is really, really pushing it.

In any case, OS isn't a D1 play in this game regardless when we have so much other weight to shed.

In general I'm liking Raziek slightly more as of late and surprisingly Red Ryu, who I had expected to go into full blown OMGUS/lash out at my attacker/super defensive mode and the fact that he isn't kind of confuses me.

Still wouldn't mind a Red Ryu lynch though, esp. if he's gonna continue to use RL johns with this who Lucario project thing.

GLG lynch doesn't sound bad either and would certainly be one of our more informative choices flip wise.

X1 case is interesting because when I was re-reading he never really caught my attention so seeing people so willing to lynch him makes me think I'm missing something or just didn't piece something together. Willing to entertain and X1 lynch with a compelling case.

Adum's play is still rather distracting to me thus far but he isn't really a D1 play compared to other choices.

Gonna be V/LA with weekend, pretty much from tonight until Sunday night. I'll probably be able to check it briefly once or twice a day either by phone or laptop if I have access in the hotel, but I won't be posting anything extensive. Pretty will just be checking in for new cases and to see how the wagons are developing and who we eventually settle on. Sorry for the ****ty V/LA timing.

 

[Xivii]

Frozen I didn't feel he was playing the same way as he aas in SC prior to his two huge posts. In those I noticed that he was actually reading into things and at the same time being so questiony and looking at multiple perspectives like in SC. In his post before those two he seemed to be more on one perspective. His multiple angle views is what I most attribute to his SC play.

 

[Xivii]

@Luxor: if Nich flips town, you'll have nothing to worry about

 

[Xivii]

EBWOP#692: was*


Also pretteh please lynch Nich ^________^

Whoever isn't voting him yet should explain. Frozen are you on? I don't recal.

 

[Beat!]

Wow, Nich. You don't answer my questions for days and you even make me have to re-ask them, and then you have the NERVE to give me that response when I ask if I can answer the next day. Not cool.

Your posts have already been ripped apart, but I will add my own thoughts soon.

 

[Luxor]

Oh wow ah Ran goodness. OK Ran can be town now. I don't think he would go through all that as scum. And he is playing like a better version of his SC play.

Deadline is soon? I'm still a bit behind, but where I'm at now is:
100% Town
X1

Town Pile
Ran o-o
Luxor
Beat
Rajam
Adum
Raz

Eh
FF

^Want to Live

vWant to Die

Useless Pile
Nabe

Scummies
cdubs
glg
Ryu
Vult
OS


Scum
Nich

Nabe if I'm back before the deadline, I will get to your post then and anything else addressed to me, otherwise it may have to wait until d2.

Vote: Nich

I don't understand the case against Nich. I don't like him, but it seems like in this post you just go out and say, "hey Nich is scum vote now!!!"

Your recent attitude doesn't bode well with me, and I don't like how Nabe (who voted you just for that at one point) is following along with you now. So, Nabe, why are you following Zen blindly now? And Zen, why do you want Nich gone, or why is Nich scum?

Is Zen/Nabe possible? I'm starting to believe it.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

"Blindly" lol. Spiderman (and probably someone else who actually exists) once said that "the enemies of my enemies are my friends". Which actually has very little to do with my own philosophy, which is that I lynch the targets of my targets.

Zen made a reasonable response to my case (a bit lacking, but hey) and I'm waiting on something from him for D2. He made the Nich case (I believe it was after the post you've quoted) and Nich's response to it wasn't compelling at all. I've never played with Nich before, but his play in this game has been subpar and I can agree that a lynch on him toDay is warranted.

G'night.

 

[Beat!]

@Nich
GLG's #210 is an interesting case. Here's your answers, with my responses added:

X1 later claimed he was using a gambit, and lying about the standard tell anyway. So... what's wrong?

So you're saying you knew that he wasn't serious all along? You knew it was a gambit? If not, then this is completely irrelevant.

The way he was exclusively focusing on your playerslot despite X1's actions looked like tunneling. I think it's justified, given his case against you, but it's still tunneling.

"It was bad, but it was okay, but it was still bad." Wow.

See point 1.

Lol. I guess "See answer 1"?

See point 2.

._.

You know, Zen later attacked Gord over that exact same post. The tunneling accusation you've brought up before (third time now)

"He did it too!" Seriously, this is irrelevant for the case against you.

You know, he later claimed it to be a gambit...

Deja vu. Like I said, if you didn't know this, it's irrelevant.

I love how you're conveniently ignoring that I've since changed my mind about your playerslot, given the later evidence that Zen has presented. X1's attack was still dumb.

So scum can't change their mind about players? You could've realized that attacking x1's case was a bad idea, and took the chance to get out of it.

Town's goal is to lynch scum. Defending town to get a scum lynch is therefore pro-town. I admit that scum can defend town for townie points, but that's not the case here.

The bolded part is the problem with this post. You admit that it can go both ways, which means you could be doing it as scum, but without further reasoning you conclude that this is not the case. Not very convincing.

You've skimmed the 2nd half of this thread, haven't you? I've since changed my mind on your playerslot.

Which means you got both options covered. Vey convenient.


GLG then responded in his #258. Here's your responses to that post:

So, he's using an argument that was basically a giant lie, and it doesn't change anything? Whatever.

No, it doesn't change anything, because this is a case against you, and you never said you thought his case was a gambit. You just said you disagreed with it.

Zen and X1 were attacking Gord for totally different reasons. If you haven't figured that out yet, you've been skimming.

Fair enough.

Anyway, the main issue here is the following question: Is defending townies scummy? I hope it's clear that the answer is a resounding NO. Since GLG can't see how defending town helps to lynch scum, I'll use a quick illustration.

Suppose that Idiot townie X is on the choppping block, but you have good reason to think he's town. (Say... personal meta, or cop report. Doesn't really matter.) So, by presenting your reasons as to why townie X is scum, you get him off the chopping block, and someone else onto it... who might very well be scum. Therefore, it's a good move.

In your last posts, you said defending townies is null. Now all of a sudden it's a solid town move?

And the bolded part is why your example fails miserably. It's basically:
1. Player X is on the chopping block.
2. You defend him convincingly.
3. You all decide against lynching him.
...
10. You lynch someone else.

You've just conveniently assumed that there were other lynch suspects as well. But guess what, if everyone put their focus on defending people, there wouldn't BE any other suspects. Defending a townie as town is good sometimes, but it's not a 100% town tell. It's a null tell (depending on the situation).

@X1
Why is Gord town? Also, I'm skeptical it was a gambit and will stay that way, until you explain somewhat more about your reads and how the gambit helped them.

Lol. Well look at this. You didn't even believe it was a gambit. That means all those points you made about X1 claiming it was a gambit don't mean anything.

Now we move forward, because not very much happened with your case for a while. You did dodge my questions like three times though.

So, your response to Zen's #605:

I'm really not happy at the way the game's going right now.

Oh noes.

Have you noticed that I lack scum motivation as well? Blast it, if I were scum I'd have been tunneling on GLG/X1 the whole day to mimic the way I've played as town for the past 20 games.

"I don't play like this when I'm scum guyz. This is my town play. Therefore I'm town."

Come on, now. Read that quote out loud. If someone else said that as a defense, would you buy it? I really hope you wouldn't.

I said in one of my very first posts that I was going to make a conscious effort to try NOT to tunnel this game. So yeah, compared to my normal play they'll look like that.

This is true.

Says the person who pushes a deadline lynch on someone with several people hating him already (Beatstick and GLG already hated me, and Raz can easily be persuaded since I called him out as scum), who has admitted to being behind on the game, and is also by his own admission unavaiable to post for 12 hours (which is a lot at deadline) And that's not even mentioning the gord wagon you pushed for the first 20 pages. Yay hypocrisy...

Don't even say the word "hypocrisy". Seriously, get a grip.

So I went too far to avoid tunneling.

K.

Because frankly, I need to reread, and I lack the motivation to do it. That's a constant problem for me regardless of alignment, and one of the reasons I usually tunnel so much (pushing the same points is a lot easier than going back to find new ones.)

You don't want to re-read, so you take the easy route, which results in tunneling and faulty reasoning a lot of the time? Lol. If you for some reason don't end up lynched toDay, I'd say you will be good vig fodder, if there is one.

I changed my mind after looking back at the evidence and judging it for myself. Also known as avoiding tunneling. Which I said I was going to do in one of my first posts. I'm really starting to question your intelligence and your towniness. (And in before Oh-my-gosh-you-suck accusations)

Yay, let's go with the ad hominem!

What exactly do you think I'm scum for again?

Oh, you know... nothing really.

Because he's scum and by process of elimination? (Semi-serious here)

wut

I have solid interaction with Gord/GLG, you, X1, Raziek, and have clearly aligned myself with Overswarm.

You've "aligned" yourself with OS? That sounds like a healthy town action. Or are you implying that you're masons? Not that I believe that for a second.

You're really pulling out all the stops out, aren't you?

lol

I wanted to follow up some on my Raziek case. And not following up is something that you've just attacked me for. Still though, I think GLG > Raziek as a lynch at this point, so Unvote, Vote: GLG



Yay for bandwagoning on other's cases and accusing ME of doing the exact same thing.

So where exactly is your big case against GLG, then?

Against the crowd? Look, both Overswarm and I were there long before you, so quit lying.

You tell 'em.

Are you sure you aren't describing yourself?

What a funny remark. It's even funnier that it can be used against you in a lot of cases.

Again, I said in one of my first posts that I'm not available until 3:00ish on weekdays. There never was a chance for me to respond to this.

True.

@Any other questions
Look, I'm sorry but you'll have to re-ask them.

Forget it, I'm not asking again. I'm tired of you avoiding my questions. Just die.

I'll get to your latest posts soon.

 

[Luxor]

unvote

Looks like Nich is the play toDay then? I'm finding him a more and more viable target. I think we can get some good reads off the flip, at the very least.

vote: Nicholas1024

 

[giraffelasergun]

He's also nitpicky:

I'm leaning towards a beatscum right now, and he didn't answer my question and instead brought in something irrelevant when that was an important question.

 

[Beat!]

Lol, I did answer you. You never responded to my #486, so I thought you were satisfied?

How was it irrelevant btw? I explained the difference between Rans and Rajams posts, since you compared them.

 

[Raziek]

I've got a spare hour before class, so I'm going to re-read, ask some more questions, post some more thoughts. Stay tuned!

 

[Overswarm]

Still not feeling a Nich lynch. His play coincides directly with how it normally is as town save for his inactivity earlier. Nich is one of those players I can "figure out" with more time, and do so fairly easily, so maybe that's helping him in this case. Regardless, I still feel we will learn absolutely nothing about Nich and GLG will tell us a few things.

Just to let people know: Nich or GLG, whoever lives toDay, will end up passing under our radar toMorrow if we let them. Just FYI.

 

[Luxor]

We need to make two lists.

List of people willing to lynch Nich: Zen, Nabe, me, Beat, idk

List of people willing to lynch GLG: Vult, me, OS, Zen, idk

Something like that, but complete.

 

[Xivii]

I'm not willing to lynch glg today.

 

[Xivii]

Also Nich is at L-2.

 

[Xivii]

Rajam post.

 

[Raziek]

Made a bunch of notes, gotta get to class. Will post more later.

Short Version

(Regarding Ran's 517)
I don't like how much Ran over-reacted to Zen's case on Gordito early on.
Ran is pushing unusual amounts of pressure on Luxor.

I have a town vibe from Nabe.

Scum vibe from Nich. He bought X1's "gambit" claim way too easily, and he mentioned specifically in his 208 that he thinks Adum is Indy.

Zen - You seem to hate Nabe a LOT. You've frequently called him useless, and largely tried to ignore him all game. Why is this? Specifically, at one point (post unknown, see Ran's 517 for quote), you asked Nabe WHY HE WAS STILL ALIVE.

Why would Nabe POSSIBLY be dead at that point?

More later.

 

[Raziek]

EBWOP: When I mentioned Nich, I was talking about his 208 and 221.

It kinda smells like Nich is trying to distance himself from X1 to me.

 

[Raziek]

EBWOP 2: Right now I'm feeling a Nich lynch.

I'm not going to move my vote yet, as he is at L-2, but I do want to see a claim or some final defense, I'm feeling ready for a lynch.

 

[Xivii]

Raz I don't hate Nabe at all. I just don't think he is doing much for town. My intuitive read on him has been town so it irked me to have a town read yet for him to be playing the way he has been. Asking him why he was still alive was rhetorical.

 

[Rajam]

About Red Ryu:

19:

Jeez Red Ryu you're in every game I am ever seems like.

Confirming!

23:

I'm a stalker of Gylph.

24:

Or am I stalking you?

31:

Maybe we are stalking each other?

This is the dumb interaction between Glyph and Red Ryu in RVS stage. As I said, if any of them flips scum this interaction should be taken into account, since it seems like a scum-scum interaction more than anything

29:

13. Red Ryu

What are you flaming doing here?

31:

Being a damn Charizard.

Another weird interaction in RVS, now between Gord and Ryu. As I said earlier I think scum Gord would have made serious questions to his scum partners which don't demand much work, but scum Gord could have thrown a joke question to one of his scummates. If Gord/glg flips scum this is something to be wary of

53:

Red Ryu why were you avoiding posting at the time of this post?

55:

Working on Lucario backroom project.

johns for not posting during the Gord issue

77:

So Zen, are you saying part of your case is coming off personal experiance you have had with Gordy?

Don't you think that can be a bit dangerous as it falls under kind of a gut feeling kind of read?

Indirect defense on Gord

80:

Why are you inderectly trying to belittle my case?

^^^

84:

A lot of it seems like it's personal, and I think that can cloud judgments sometimes.

Don't get me wrong he is the strongest person to Lynch based on what you have presented, but I don't think bring other games into this is wise unless your absolutely sure it reveals his intentions/scumminess.

Seems like an honest answer, but we're already on #84 and you haven't done any scumhunting. Anyways if you agreed at this point he was the strongest lynch candidate, why not voting him? What you say in this post is also kind of contradictory: you say gord is the strongest lynch candidate based on what Zen presented though at the same time you say his meta on Gord (which was important part of his case) isn't safe on regards to see how scummy Gord is. Indirect defense on Gord again despite you said he was the strongest lynch candidate

108:

Vote: Red Ryu

116:

@Zen: It this an RVS vote or do you have reasons?

120:

Ryu I'm voting you because in your #84 (I think it was), you were saying how my judgement could be clouded from past game experiences. I don't see a town member, with no knowledge of my alignment, speaking this way. You were saying my judgements could be clouded, but that's only if I'm town. As scum I could have simply not been judging at all. But you were speaking in such a perspective that I was town and being misguided rather than a neutral perspective which leads me to believe you are scum and know my alignment. Especially if Gord were to somehow flip town because that would also explain why you thought I was misguided even though Gord was/is so scummy.

The only reason I could see making up for this is because you simply have a town read on me.

Red Ryu never addressed this. Why did you ignore it?

123:

red ryu hasn't posted much, but Zen's got a point. Kinda null though, but leaning towards scum.

People noticing Red Ryu's inactivity and believing he is scum

#156:

Stop posting neutral, bland, completely safe content.

Eh, Ryu. He hasn't said anything concrete all game. All his posts are really vague, neutral things. Post more content plox.

The first is in regards to Ryu's #84, and the second paragraph refers to Ryu's #116. I agree with these points

234:

Ryu: scum
Gord: scum. Town if Ryu scum.

Ryu is inactive.

239:

It seems like Zen isn't scum hunting as much as trying to make wild claims and hoping he gets lucky, this and his behavior at Gordy is making me really question him.

X1, I'm also looking at you, you seem to also be riding on Zen's claims more often than not.

240:

Ryu: You say to Zen that "his behaviour at Gordy" is making you question him. Elaborate; currently sounding unfounded and fluffy.

^^^
I'd only add that I think Gord scum -> Ryu scum. Ryu just defended and avoided Gord during all the initial pressure on him

245:

Ryu would be scum on town gord because he knows I'm town and knows Gordito is town.

...This could be as well. So, Ryu, you're scum independent of Gord's flip right?

245:

My claims are never random (if that's what you mean by wild). I have reasoning for everything I say. There hasn't been a single thing that I have said that I do not have reasoning for. Just because you don't agree with my reasoning doesn't mean I don't have it.

Do you have reasoning for claiming I hope to get lucky? That's a pretty wild claim there and very hypocritical.

Zen's response to Ryu's #239. Last paragraph needs a response from Ryu's

#241:

@Red Ryu
If Zen and X1 are definitely suspicious to you, who's on your town list?

295:

@Red Ryu: Please pull up 1 quote or series of quotes where I rode on Zen's claims

310:

Red Ryu is also getting mad scummy, his "contributions" are non-existent, he's just playing it safe.

311:

Red Ryu you pretty much ignored all this discussion on Gordito, If you haven't already I'd like to hear your take on his attitude on RVS and Zen's accusations

*Several questions meanwhile Ryu was very pressured due to inactivity*

346: Finally, Ryu's promised post:

Part of his argument for going after Gordy was his experience in past games and he was pretty quick to throw a hammer at him based on that alone, it seems like he's being quick to throw legit hammers at people rather than get reliable reads.

Zen is looking pretty scummy. X1 is posting small and not really helping.

Response to Nabe's #240. It seems honest.

X1 is trying to distance himself at this point, confirmed town? I'm getting a town vibe from you but not really anyone after that. I'll need to keep looking around and continue hunting before I can get more town vibes.

You have been a lot more helpful in scum hunting than Zen has.

Response to Luxor's #241. Lol @ "continue hunting"; only thing you've done has been saying Zen is scummy because of his use of meta on gord and willing to quick-lynch him, and random accusations on X1. Up to this post (#346) you're barely starting to scumhunt and you haven't said anything about Gord's play (nor other players' play)

You were pretty quick to jump off the Gordy claim and go after another person as if you lost your claim on him when called on it.

Your hoping that others think like you do with a person which is where the "hope you get lucky" part came from. You may have reasoning but your quick to jump ship when people don't follow your lead.

Reponse to Zen's #245. This is better, though I not necesarily agree with, I think is a decent response

The rest of the post is pretty good scumhunt imo (finally), Ryu also answers X1's #295. Several town-points to Ryu. Though I'm sad you didn't address the first part of my #311 (your take on Gord?)

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I'll continue with Ryu later, and I'll give an overall insight on him and see if he is worth lynching. Ryu you can answer the issues I addressed on here meanwhile.

 

[Rajam]

Ignore #120, Ryu addressed it on his #346.

 

[Xivii]

Rajam: An About Nich would be nice too.

 

[DtJ Jungle]

9/16|02.1.10 11:59AM EST

votee|voters
Overswarm|Cdubs1987/X1-12/
giraffelasergun|Vult Redux/Overswarm/Nicholas1024
Vult Redux|Rajam/
Nicholas1024|Ranmaru/Zεη/Beatstick/Giraffelasergun/redryu/Nabe/Luxor
Red Ryu|frozenflame751/Raziek/adumbrodeus



Deadline Extension Request granted. deadline is now 2/1 at 11:59 AM EST

 

[Rajam]

Rajam: An About Nich would be nice too.

Once I finish on Ryu, Nich is next

 

[Overswarm]

I feel that Nich's wagon grew way too fast out of nowhere. Still not comfortable with Nich lynch.

 

[Luxor]

I'm starting to feel a GLG lynch would be better. Still, I'm cool with Nich.

 

[Xivii]

You shouldn't judge a wagon by the speed it was made. That's a fallacy.

OS if Nich is scum, scum is already on his wagon. They have pretty much been forced to do so. As they would have to explain why they do not think he is the play and thus making a strong connection with him upon his flip.

You do realize the gord wagon developed much faster than this? Why did you not express the same concern there?


Rajam: Do you still feel that Ran is scum even after his catch up posts?

 

[Overswarm]

You do realize the gord wagon developed much faster than this? Why did you not express the same concern there?

Stop framing things.

Gordito was scummy as hell, replaced out, and we got GLG who was also scummy. Nich is one of like 6 people that have been acting the exact same as him. There's no reason I've seen to single him out over someone like CDubs. Actually, I see more reason to look at CDubs because CDubs regularly posts "sorry about inactivity". You can't post "sorry about inactivity" and not post any content.