Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance | Final Chapter

[Xivii]

The point you ignored:

1. "Hi x1. V: x1"

2. "I only vote to seal the deal after talking for pressure."

You're lying in 2. That's the point. You have reasoning now, but then you were simply making an accusations. All liars should die in mafia.

 

[Xivii]

Yes you would be scum in that situation as it would be considered throwing your vote around.

 

[Xivii]

Oh wow ah Ran goodness. OK Ran can be town now. I don't think he would go through all that as scum. And he is playing like a better version of his SC play.

Deadline is soon? I'm still a bit behind, but where I'm at now is:
100% Town
X1

Town Pile
Ran o-o
Luxor
Beat
Rajam
Adum
Raz

Eh
FF

^Want to Live

vWant to Die

Useless Pile
Nabe

Scummies
cdubs
glg
Ryu
Vult
OS


Scum
Nich

Nabe if I'm back before the deadline, I will get to your post then and anything else addressed to me, otherwise it may have to wait until d2.

Vote: Nich

 

[adumbrodeus]

Zεη 95
BeatStick 81
Luxor 56
Overswarm 56
X1-12 43
Nabe 30
Nicholas1024 27
giraffelasergun 25
Rajam 24
adumbrodeus 20
Glyph 19
Cdubs1987 18
Vult Redux 18
Red Ryu 17
Ranmaru 17
Raziek 16
Gordito 12
frozenflame751 11
Xiivi 9
Jungle 1


No one in this game should be below adumbrodeus, who has been fairly inactive. People need to make a habit of posting.

Adumbrodeus, CDubs, Vult, RedRyu, Raziek, and Frozen Flame are all way low on the activity scale. (FF recently has started posting a decent amount, so I exclude him mentally from this tally).

being inactive should not be an issue for town members

All of you, start posting on a semi-regular basis at least.

Hmmm

It's called "Day 1".

Gordito comes in, **** hits the fan.
Gordito replaces out.
You come in.
You disappear immediately and post as little as possible
We call you out to post some, you post some...
then disappear until the very end where you're a target again

I dislike that chain of events.

Question OS, considering the slot has a total of 37 posts which puts him on the higher end of activity.

His posting has also been rather consistent albeit lacking in content (but we're only talking about based on your metric atm which doesn't touch on post content at all), so how's he disappearing until he becomes a topic of discussion?




@lynch choices: Out of them, Red Ryu I guess, I get a sort of blending feel from him cause even with what he's said he has very little real content and very safe. Not as sure about Zen anymore because he did something similar in a place that doesn't exist (picking a hard target that time though). Nabe still needs to die and so does Luxor.



Thoughts on Razeik: Reading over the quicktopic, he had opinions, but he let the more experienced players decide the ultimate actions. Since quicktopic was his sincere choices I could see him making a "when in rome" post sincerely since he previously displayed a tendency to trust more expirienced players as a first timer in dgames. TBH, what I really wanna see is what he does tomorrow cause he hasn't said enough to give me a read. Rajam, you were his scumbuddy, thoughts?

 

[Xivii]

Also why Nich should be the play, read through his posts:

-He lacks any town motivation.
-All of his "reads" are only semi-persued.
-The only case he has made was on Raz. Such an easy case to make...
-He should have been more on glg for his all his bs but instead he is playing more to the flow rather than building much of his own (other than Raz which had been gone over plenty already).
-He avoids commenting on what's going on in the general mix, pops up here and to stay active.

 

[adumbrodeus]

Zen, why is nich scum?

 

[Xivii]

-He accused me of tunneling Gord and then flipped when I gave some pretty ****y reasoning (from outside perspective) and took Gord as scum like it really was a strong case until I and others dropped attention from him.

Beat, Luxor and all please vote for Nich. Take note of who does not do so now. Nich in truth is the scummiest of the day and really should be the play.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

@lynch choices: Out of them, Red Ryu I guess, I get a sort of blending feel from him cause even with what he's said he has very little real content and very safe. Not as sure about Zen anymore because he did something similar in a place that doesn't exist (picking a hard target that time though). Nabe still needs to die and so does Luxor.

I don't see why me sticking to a claim when I called someone out is safe. Truth that I only got true scum reads on X1-12 and Zen, which is why I've only been going after then, recently not so much on Zen because X1-12 strikes me as a much larger scum read, however,

@Zen: I'm gonna think about that, I'm looking at the Gordy stuff you've mentioned. At first he was pretty far against the lynch, first he seemed to be changing his mind a bit when he looked at one of Gordy's posts, specifically the one where he says, "looks like I'm scum" he changed his mind a bit.

Still I don't think he is a good lynch target, then again I'm also talking to the guy who thinks X1-12 is 100% town, what gives? Why are you so confident in thinking he is town?

Also why did you post a list like that?

 

[Luxor]

Request deadline extension

I think the extra discussion time cpuld be useful. Zen, I'll take another look at Nich and see if his lynch is acceptable unto me during chemistry in like an hour.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

Just leave it until D2, Zen. I can see I'm not being taken seriously anyway, no point in derailing toDay's lynch.

Have you voiced the Nichscum perspective before now?

 

[Beat!]

Lol, even more suggestions?

I disagree with Zen lynch, GLG lynch and X1 lynch.

Nich lynch is fine with me. Do you think enough people can be convinced of lynching him, Zen?

 

[Xivii]

Ryu it should be pretty obvious why I know someone is 100% town -_-.

Nabe, no I haven't. Other than toying with it in a response to Ran.

But just look at the very little contact he has made most the players. It's because scumies are being distant with eachother. Did OS even mention Nich in his big post coming into the game? Hardly anyone has been in his direction and he's been on total auto-cruise through out the day.

 

[Beat!]

Got some school work to do now. Will try to make a decision after that.

 

[Xiivi]

9/16|01.27.10 11:59AM EST

votee|voters
Overswarm|Cdubs1987/X1-12/

giraffelasergun|Vult Redux/Overswarm/

X1-12|Red Ryu/

Zεη|adumbrodeus/Nabe/

Raziek|giraffelasergun/Nicholas1024/

Ranmaru|Luxor/

Vult Redux|Rajam/

Nicholas1024|Ranmaru/Zεη/

Red Ryu|frozenflame751/Raziek/

No Vote|BeatStick/

Deadline Extension Requests|Luxor/

 

[Xivii]

Beat & Lux: Time is no excuse. Beat we will have enough. We need however need momentum which is why I implore you to vote now. Scum will be the ones pretending not to know if there are enough people yet saying they would be up for the lynch as you are doing now. If you are up for it, then follow through.

 

[Xivii]

we do however need *

 

[Xivii]

glg and nich think eachother is scum yet they are both voting for the same person and not against eachother.

 

[Beat!]

Vote: Nicholas1024

Derp.

 

[Xivii]

O btw Beat I forgot who your scum pics were. All I've really seen you say is who you think is town and agree with others lynch choices, but who do you think is scum?

 

[Xivii]

Also I'm always up for an extension. Don't we have 3 or was that another game?

Vote: Deadline Extension

 

[Beat!]

Scum list, no particular order:
Raz
Nich
Vult
Ran
Maybe Ryu

Will probably change depending on the flip of toDays lynch.

 

[Beat!]

Adum a little scummy too.

 

[giraffelasergun]

Vote: Nicholas

Also since right now were more than likely hitting no lynch, Vote: Deadline Extension

 

[Overswarm]

vote deadline extension

That vote count is ridiculous and I don't like it.

 

[Beat!]

Request deadline extension

 

[Overswarm]

I'm silly.

request deadline extension

vote GLG

 

[Rajam]

request deadline extension

 

[Luxor]

DLE-3
come on guys

 

[adumbrodeus]

I don't see why me sticking to a claim when I called someone out is safe. Truth that I only got true scum reads on X1-12 and Zen, which is why I've only been going after then, recently not so much on Zen because X1-12 strikes me as a much larger scum read, however,

@Zen: I'm gonna think about that, I'm looking at the Gordy stuff you've mentioned. At first he was pretty far against the lynch, first he seemed to be changing his mind a bit when he looked at one of Gordy's posts, specifically the one where he says, "looks like I'm scum" he changed his mind a bit.

Still I don't think he is a good lynch target, then again I'm also talking to the guy who thinks X1-12 is 100% town, what gives? Why are you so confident in thinking he is town?

Also why did you post a list like that?

Cause you have limited content and you only called out people everybody else is calling out. Nabe at least gets credit for having been developing a line of questioning on Zen before I called him out on being safe and then next post he tosses in a vote. I don't like him for it, but he can survive for now.

You on the other hand posted the most non-committal things in regards to zen and x1 and then when **** hits the fan and people start getting suspicious of them you ramp up a case.

Ok, you may not think anyone else is scum, but how come there's so little content in your posts? Why aren't you asking questions of other people and attempting to develop a read of them? Inactivity I can understand, if when you post you ask good questions. This passivity reaks of blending scum.


As far as x1 being 100% town, where did I say anything to that effect? Unless you believe "leaning town with the caveat that if Nabe flips scum he's leaning scum". But as for why, X1 seems too unconcerned about what town thinks of him, his gambit obviously would draw attention to him, why would scum play it and admit it under so little pressure? Unless Nabe fed it to him as a way to "fix" a situation that they know was going downhill and they were hoping for an easy Gord lynch I see scum as unlikely for x1. At the same time if either flips scum, the other is very likely scum.



I posted a list because it's useful for town to track back stances if everybody does that, it's incredibly important when paired with VC analysis in lategame scumhunting because you only have one vote. I strongly encourage EVERYONE TO POST STANCES. However in the same way that SWF seems to love lying as town, they also seem to hate posting stances.


Request Deadline extension


We have 3, so I don't mind chucking one at d1 to avoid a no-lynch.




@OS's challenge:

Honestly, so far Cdubs has left absolutely no impression on me. I'll get back to this as soon as I have a chance to reread him.

 

[adumbrodeus]

unvote
Vote: Red Ryu

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

request deadline extension

We can get a lynch out on D1. I do not think this is a case were no lynch is a good idea, I hate jumping on like this but after re-reading Nich's posts I can see what Zen is talking about. He did keep a stance on X1, however he has been a lot easier to meld onto others ideas. He hasn't been contributing true scum hunting nor has he tried to seek out anyone that wasn't already being hammered by another person.

At least when I tried to go after X1, I went with something that was against the crowd and not other claims, since your call on X1 is a claim I'm gonna wait on X1 and see what others think of that. As for Nich.

Unvote
Vote: Nicholas1024

He has a lot of the qualities I didn't like about X1, to a lesser extent. Jumping on bandwagons and contributing little to scum hunting.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Cause you have limited content and you only called out people everybody else is calling out. Nabe at least gets credit for having been developing a line of questioning on Zen before I called him out on being safe and then next post he tosses in a vote. I don't like him for it, but he can survive for now.

You on the other hand posted the most non-committal things in regards to zen and x1 and then when **** hits the fan and people start getting suspicious of them you ramp up a case.

Ok, you may not think anyone else is scum, but how come there's so little content in your posts? Why aren't you asking questions of other people and attempting to develop a read of them? Inactivity I can understand, if when you post you ask good questions. This passivity reaks of blending scum.


As far as x1 being 100% town, where did I say anything to that effect? Unless you believe "leaning town with the caveat that if Nabe flips scum he's leaning scum". But as for why, X1 seems too unconcerned about what town thinks of him, his gambit obviously would draw attention to him, why would scum play it and admit it under so little pressure? Unless Nabe fed it to him as a way to "fix" a situation that they know was going downhill and they were hoping for an easy Gord lynch I see scum as unlikely for x1. At the same time if either flips scum, the other is very likely scum.

First off @Zen implies that part after it was directed at Zen, I never said you said that X1 was 100% town, Zen does though and like he said, It's obvious why.

Blending implies I'm trying to jump on and go with the crowd, only time I've done this was nich now, because I can see where Zen is coming from at least on him and X1 looks like is more likely to be town if Zen's claim is true.

How was anything on X1 not committed? I ramped up my case because I did fell he was on top of my scum list, I didn't beleive anything he did was a gambit as a town player. The only reason I've dropped it as of recent is because Zen made a soft claim which does make me wonder, since if it is true then the play early on with X1 would make sense and why they have teamed up.

 

[Luxor]

Vote: Nicholas1024

He has a lot of the qualities I didn't like about X1, to a lesser extent. Jumping on bandwagons and contributing little to scum hunting.

When I saw that last line at first I thought you were describing yourself.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

Request Deadline Extension
That should be the 9th if Zen's 620 goes through. One more person doing it with proper format would be lovely, to make sure.

 

[Overswarm]

When I saw that last line at first I thought you were describing yourself.

I'd laugh if it didn't describe like 6 others. -_-;;

Now that we have an extension, who feels strongly about an X1 lynch?

 

[adumbrodeus]

You're right, sorry I misread (snow shoveling johns, had to get up at 7 to get my dad out of work).

Still, the reasoning applies, anyway cause I gave a similar list earlier and I think X1 is town.


As far as noncommittal, I didn't say you didn't commit to anything, I said you waited until it was SAFE. There's a difference.

This is the strongest thing you said about Zen before my post of the situation:

A lot of it seems like it's personal, and I think that can cloud judgments sometimes.

Don't get me wrong he is the strongest person to Lynch based on what you have presented, but I don't think bring other games into this is wise unless your absolutely sure it reveals his intentions/scumminess.

After you made the post which FF accused of being a parrot, you expressed some concerns, yes, but in the most wishy-washy manner imaginable, giving you the option to pick either a gord lynch or later pick up on zen. You didn't actually go after x1 until people starting pressuring him either.

When taking a stance would attract attention and be unsafe, you didn't. When there was a substantial body of suspicion behind them you did.


No Red Ryu, you can die, if the others didn't show connections better then you, you might be my top lynch target overall. For now, I'll settle.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

That is more so a result because of my inactivity and trying to get a project finalized for the Lucario backroom, now I'm trying to fix this since I did sign up for this game and I should be posting more like OS said.

Also when did I jump on one besides Nich? I started against Zen and X1 and actually was a main one against X1.

 

[adumbrodeus]

I'd laugh if it didn't describe like 6 others. -_-;;

Now that we have an extension, who feels strongly about an X1 lynch?

We shouldn't lynch X1 until we have a nabe flip. X1 is probably town for the reasons I stated, he fits reckless town (the "no-pr way", not the leeroy jenkins way) to a T.

 

[Overswarm]

Red Ryu, what other games have you been in?

Adumb, I'd like to hear some unique stances from you as well. You've one of the players that has been doing exactly what you're accusing Red Ryu of, and I don't like it from any of you.

CDubs needs to post more.

WHERE THE HELL DID X1 GO

GLG needs to step out of the shadows

I want FFs insight

I want Raziek to post more and to start a wagon on D2

 

[Overswarm]

We shouldn't lynch X1 until we have a nabe flip. X1 is probably town for the reasons I stated, he fits reckless town (the "no-pr way", not the leeroy jenkins way) to a T.

I still don't buy it. How does Nabe's flip have an effect on X1?

X1's activity pattern and way of defending himself just reeks of scum to me. It's just "nuh uh" and then hiding. LOTS of players are playing the safe self-preservation game this time around and I don't like it.