Fire Emblem: Awakening Mafia | GAME OVER: Not Equal To The Challenge

[Death Mountain]

Of course, LOOK AT MY FACE

 

[Xastrn]

You called us strong town you tard. Good try.
I'd do the rest but rake is bored and wants to do it,

We actually stopped offering full lists of reads about halfway through D1. The most recent ones you'd be able to find also had Soup high on the town list as well, and we obviously thought he was scummy by the end of the Day.

 

[Xastrn]

I'll be dipping out for a bit to let town discuss. (also to watch HIMYM on DVR)

 

[FullMetalLynch]

wait wait rake said i get to have fun too.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Spoiler

Very disappointed you posted this log.

Another reason why Hydra's got an advantage over normal players.

 

[Kantrip]

Yeah that timestamped convo log feels kind of... cheaty.

FML what happens if you try to initiate an attack in thread?

 

[Death Mountain]

If it isn't obvious already, me (Rajam) will be posting with this color, this font. I'm still too far from actual conversation, so I'll let Ranmaru take the decisions (so if you see me attack someone, blame him

). I do have reads though, and it seems both Ran and me coincide on Zen scum. I'll be posting my notes and reads somewhat soon of course, and then I'll shoot and blame Ran for it

 

[Kantrip]

Because he's not. He's scum. Fake claim was fake.

Kary, you should make sure you shoot before Potassium does. It's your life or his at this point, honestly. Or let him live and kill someone else if you really think that's the best play with all of this on the table.

You're in the thread right now watching. He is not.


tick, tick, tick tick....

WHY THE ****

ARE YOU ENCOURAGING

ANOTHER QUICK SHOT

YOU ****

stop breaking your own rules and slow this **** down after dropping such a huge bomb on us like that

 

[Kantrip]

Like what... you think I'm going to shoot because I'm scum with FML and I want us both to be absolutely ****ed?

 

[FullMetalLynch]

Xast ensuring town cannot go 1 for 1 if a rb exists. Gj

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

ROLE PM REMOVED PER RULES

Patrick Rice
12:46am
Patrick Rice
So we would LOVE to team up with the even rhythm player and trade back and forth
but with 11 players, we have a 9% chance of guessing that right
Jeremy Rice
12:47am
Jeremy Rice
huh
we're even weaker than a vanilla townie... awesome
Patrick Rice
12:47am
Patrick Rice
I'd say we should play support
Jeremy Rice
12:47am
Jeremy Rice
Patrick Rice
12:47am
Patrick Rice
all the way

Seriously?

I'd modkill players posting this in my games.

 

[FullMetalLynch]

xasts time logs also are null lol. This is why me and orbo didnt include ours cuz its' silly in the first degree and is worse than non telling

 

[FullMetalLynch]

Also, if we were scum we could have just alerted circus to him quoting his role pm and have him mod killed. Mfw xast dense ************

 

[Death Mountain]

Btw, Ran is the greatest in the lands.

 

[Kantrip]

FML you think they could have faked that huge facebook convo post?

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Also, if we were scum we could have just alerted circus to him quoting his role pm and have him mod killed. Mfw xast dense mother****er

Are you saying he did quote it and posted it in your convo?

 

[FullMetalLynch]

Yeah that timestamped convo log feels kind of... cheaty.

FML what happens if you try to initiate an attack in thread?

Nothing. Gets ignored / life moves on

 

[FullMetalLynch]

Are you saying he did quote it and posted it in your convo?

Orbo had told me he saw they had posted it and when i got in it was gone.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

xasts time logs also are null lol. This is why me and orbo didnt include ours cuz its' silly in the first degree and is worse than non telling

It's not null.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Orbo had told me he saw they had posted it and when i got in it was gone.

...

 

[Kantrip]

Xastrn, I know you probably sincerely doubt that both me and FML can be town right now, but I think that is actually the case.

Just theoretically, what happens to your reads if FML is town?

 

[FullMetalLynch]

also the giant orange text saying it was removed, ya know thats a hint. Without it there we can't prove it happened but still.

 

[FullMetalLynch]

...

what lol. can't prove it happened. Can't prove it didn't. *shrug*.

Ignored it and circus didnt do anything about it so

 

[Circus]

Also, if we were scum we could have just alerted circus to him quoting his role pm and have him mod killed. Mfw xast dense mother****er

Orbo had told me he saw they had posted it and when i got in it was gone.

....

What?

 

[FullMetalLynch]

see my ninja circus

 

[Xastrn]

It's still there and you still have access. Go read the log.

 

[Kantrip]

I don't know what made Xastrn think posting private hydra information was a legal idea.

But I can't wrap my head around why FML didn't insta-town read them for it, either.

FML, wtf?

 

[FullMetalLynch]

....

What?

i didnt read it. but i saw the beginning of something and went out of the conversation and when i got back it was gone.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Well so shooting Ran now for sure.

 

[Death Mountain]

Btw, Ran is the greatest in the lands.

lmao Ran is becoming a fake noodle, that's not me!

ok I got bored waiting this much, so I'll just go ahead and post my notes, then I'll check Ran notes and then we'll shoot

; here:

~ Rajam notes so far ~​

#66: Xatress already looking scummy. Very focused on mechanics, and in this post in particular, I don't like how he praises Ryker's reputation; it's like he isn't even questioning if Ryker could be scum or not.

#71: This is just me, but from personal experience, when a player sends another one to check an old game, the 1st player is always scum. Is sort of a tell I've detected . Anyways, should ask Colonel Stars what does he infer on Xastrn based on what he claims there. Probably it's too late now though.

#84: Not liking Kantrip's town read on Kary because of her reminder about weapons' breakage. Feels fake and forced.

#112: Kary turning on Rake under the shield of "angry reaction". Horrible "reaction" though, honestly thinking it's a serious scumslip: she ins't inquiring on the motives nor trying to gain more info, and isn't explaining why all that rage.

#113 "I haven't backed out of anything. I still don't like you pairing up, I still don't think it's pro-town. You asked me to give it a goddamn rest, and since we clearly have a difference of opinion, I decided not to push it any further."

SCUUUUUMMM!! If Kary thinks it's scummy, she'd pursue it, she'd try to convince people on that; at least the people who haven't stated yet what they think regarding the issue. There is no way she'd let this "rest" because only the SAME GUY WHOM SHE'S ACUSSING asked her to do so; in general, no way she'd let that "there" if she actually thinks it's scummy.

Also, thinking about it a little, this is a "perfect" excuse that can give Kary room for either leaving soup alone "safely" if she sees soup isn't the play, or join the wagon back later without much further input if she sees soup can be the play. Deffinitely putting Kary very high in my scumdar.

#127: I like how Xastrn isn't much worried about the suspicion on him, specially I like the absence of irony in his own defence. Seems a townie reaction imo.

On another note, the lack of more input by Zen is... weird... in a scummy sense. He's usually a lot more hyperactive early-game. Also, vanderzant is terribly inactive when scum.

#146: Horrible reason and explanation of why Sokr thinks Xastrn is scum. If he does it as a pressure tool, is ok. If he sits on it and doesn't let go, Sokr likely scum.

#176: Lame excuse. Is that all he has to say?

I don't see any town intention in dabuz's #243. Content is easily fake-able by scum.

#265: Sokr not mentioning / insisting against Xastrn is a good sign imo.

#289: 1st answer of dabuz is super lazy. If he hadn't an oppinion on Potassium, why not go back and check a little, or at least say he'll do so later. Seems he just didn't want to make a stance

#332: What the... what is Zen pushing... ¿?¿? Is obvious people who use statistics are going to use them later to support their cases. Even if Xatress says otherwise regarding what Dastrn will do with his statistics, it's not a scummy contradiction. This post shouldn't even exist; forced as hell.

#346: If Zen continues pursuing dumb, non-scummy contradictions later in the game, he's basically confirmed scum.

As a side note, I see a total lack of town passion in Zen. My reads at this point:

Scum: Kary, Zen, dabuz

Null: Potassium, Sokr, Red Ryu

Town lean: Xastrn

Town: FML

#386: Would need to check, but if Xastrn flips scum, he isn't scum with Potassium (check paragraph where he asks for Kantrip; a lot of time has passed since game started so the question looks genuine)

 

[Kantrip]

What is this I like Rajam's reads

 

[Death Mountain]

k game is solved. gg scummers

@MOD: You can just give me MVP now for my 100% perfect reads, no need to be humble here

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Then Rajam makes a post.

I'll let him catch up.

 

[FullMetalLynch]

Based on yesterDay, we had only soft scum-leans on FML and Potassium. It's toDay when the case broke wide open for us.

In our next post you will find the entire contents of our Pair-Up conversation with FML.

Highlights:

1) We provided pretty conclusive evidence (or pretty damn good forgery) of us being town. The unedited Facebook chat conversation with our real names (which I've removed here) should have been a dead giveaway, especially when combined with the Odd/Even role mechanics. However, FML continued to be wishy-washy with our reads on us both in our convo and in thread.

So we are supposed to take it as face value that an entire n0, a lot f which took place pre role pm, was completely legit and telling to the town favor? Skepticism is a big part of this game and I'm not gonna put anything past anyone. Logs and conversations cane be that hard to fake.

2) FML claims to be a vengeful townie, and encourages us to give him the Falchion because it would make him practically unkillable. We didn't believe this claim for three reasons: a) If he actually thought we might be scum, why would he give this away? He'd want to claim something that would get him targeted by an NK. b) He didn't seem to know whether or not both he and his attacker would die if he was targeted, or just his attacker. This seems like a glaring omission for a mod to make for a Role PM, but perhaps one he might overlook in safe claim. c) We also didn't believe for a second that he could even WEILD the Falchion, as only Lords can do that and he didn't claim Lord.

Honesty is a thing. We had decided that ocnfiding something to you as a gesture of trust might open you up a bit.
B-Rake can't remembert his claims for ****, that is non telling of his alignment. It's been proven multiple times that I'm the one who focuses more on role and actions when we hydra.
C-How likely do you think that Circus would make a weapon which only a limited amount of people could use? None of the flipped chars aside from soup have been lords, and I would expect anyone to be able to use any weapon of a class. Were you specifically told falchion couldn't be used by non-lords? If not, kindly stfu.

3) FML offered what we thought was the worst advice in history. He recommended we set up a hard TvS scenario with Kary. He said that it was pretty much the only way to save ourselves, and told us to avoid doing it with RR because town would never get behind it. Essentially, he was encouraging us to push a bad lynch to save ourselves. If we had been successful, Kary would have flipped town and we'd be dead D3. If not, we'd have certainly died, flipped town, and Kary would be dead D3. Neither situation boded well for town.

So der Rake tends to do this thing of offering out hard reads to bait reactions to read people. Also We believed as we still do thatt Kary is scum. We would tell you to push our scum read in any case, its not like it would hurt you. And oh look, after we separated from you everyone moved on to other discussion. And where did we say you vs kary was tvs?

4) We agreed to follow FML's idea in private but did not carry it out in public, for reasons discussed above. We waited to see the reactions of other players. We assumed if FML was scum, then his scummates would suddenly start playing differently too.

Because that is what everyone does, have scummates dogpile onto one slot. Right. Didya see this happen? Did you get anything form it?

5) About 12 hours after FML offering us his advice, Potassium starts in on his TvS posturing towards Kary/Xastrn. He pushes it pretty hard, but we never take the bait. We manage to relieve the pressure against us and Potassium switches gears to other players. He was last of everyone to drop the pressure on us

Causality says this is related to us how? Has kantrip followed with any of our other pushes?

6) We told FML we would give him the Falchion if he were to agree to stay attached. We told him what you read above: it would cement him as town (why? We said it to make him think that we believed Kary would flip scum), it would save us (a townie), and it would kill his #1 scumpick Kary. win win win.

7) It eventually becomes clear in thread that the TvS Kary/Xastrn scenario isn't going to pan out. FML starts saying in thread that he wants our flip, tells us that he's still on the fence, then separates.

6-Self preservational
7-I said i couldnt stop the mob, and gave your fate into the hands of those you were accused by.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Considering that convo after they got the role PM is going on for 2 hours after they got it, it's pretty damn telling of their alignment.

 

[Death Mountain]

From Ran notes in the QT, it seems both of us agree on dabuz scum...

...

"expectation noises"

...

dabuz any last words?

 

[FullMetalLynch]

From Ran notes in the QT, it seems both of us agree on dabuz scum...

...

"expectation noises"

...

dabuz any last words?

hold the **** on.
circus is deliberating over somethign more important right now

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

From Ran notes in the QT, it seems both of us agree on dabuz scum...

...

"expectation noises"

...

dabuz any last words?

I'm in front of him, you can't shoot him.

 

[Death Mountain]

I'm in front of him, you can't shoot him.

I know you'll be gentle and smart enough to make the switch

. dabuz any last words?

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ok I'm out of here, as I said earlier I still have a lot to read. Ranmaru should be around and he has my blessing for shooting any of my scumreads without asking (Ran if you want to shoot someone else, let's talk about it in the QT)

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

I know you'll be gentle and smart enough to make the switch

. dabuz any last words?

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ok I'm out of here, as I said earlier I still have a lot to read. Ranmaru should be around and he has my blessing for shooting any of my scumreads without asking (Ran if you want to shoot someone else, let's talk about it in the QT)

Rather would see your slot dead than move.