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Fire Emblem: Awakening Mafia | GAME OVER: Not Equal To The Challenge

Xastrn

Dastrn|Xatres
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@Potassium: Your primary strategy toDay seems to be setting up TvS and threatening to kill people in order to get them to claim. I view both of these tactics are scummy.

1) By setting up a TvS situation, you are locking town into one train of thought that forces them to ignore other possible scumreads. You tried to do this with us and Kary and now you are doing with Kary and Ranmaru. It creates a situation where if one dies, you can quickly kill the other. If both players are town, you're clinching victory for scum. This reckless play that doesn't benefit town in any way.

2) As Zen has already pointed out, you have continually threatened to shoot people today without quite intending to back it up. You were full force on the easy Xastrn bandwagon early in the day, when it seemed like someone else would take the shot but not you. You've threatened to shoot Kary if he doesn't shoot Ranmaru for you, and you've threatened to shoot Zen if Kary switches away. While this wouldn't be particularly telling (as town could be trying to save weapons for later), you've also constantly been asking for people to claim, with a specific focus on who is holding what weapons. This is about the least important thing to ask for a townie, as it tells us nothing about the person's actual ROLE in the game. Townies don't have much reason to know what weapons people are using, as most/all weapon types in FE can be used by heroes and villains alike. You should be asking for actual ROLE (i.e. ability) information if you want people to claim, but you're not. This tells me that you are more interested in the weapons themselves, which to me is scummy.

Scum want to gather weapons from town that they can use. They want townies claiming weapon information publicly so they can target their kills. They also don't want to use their own weapons if they don't have to. Your play is indicative of both.

Basically what I'm saying is... we think you're scum.
 

Kantrip

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dabuz Sokr answered that question already, really recently. You missed where I said Xastrn and Zen aren't scum together.

@Xastrn: I am not trying to set up any TvS ultimatums, it just happens when I read people. I read in connections to other players and when I see interactions I judge them on a scale of TvT, TvS, and SvS. TvS scenarios aren't the only time I do this. I have since gotten a townread on you, meaning what you're saying about me trying to set up your lynch on a Kary townflip or whatever is wrong.
 

Kantrip

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Like **** I've been using TvT and SvS in my arguments too, because that's the kind of things I look for in reading people.
 

Xastrn

Dastrn|Xatres
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Regarding ranmaru, we see his slot as basically null, leaning scum slightly. We think his case on dabuz was mad weak, but that doesn't make him scum OR town. Townies make weak cases sometimes, too. We wouldn't be absolutely devastated if he died today, but that's not what's important. What's important is making sure we shoot the person most likely to flip scum. Potassium is the first of our two candidates. I'll reveal our 2nd in just a second. Xatres and I are dividing labor here to make our cases.
 

FullMetalLynch

anomandaris_rake|orboknown
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xast if katrip shoots today does that change your read ? if so how ?

If he shot kary, and kary was scum, would you say bussing ? Same question fro ran.

If they flip town, is he still scum for postuiring so long ? If so why do you believe that.

What makes his switching scummier than Sokr's ? And how do you place kantrip of more important than sokr, who has been visibky waffling all day on you and now on shooting ? Do you think they are both scum ? Is one independent of the other reads wise ?
 

Xastrn

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A case gets made on you and suddenly you are done with this?

If you fast shoot now, EVERYONE will know you're scum. You will be failing to defend yourself, or allow people to interact with our case on you. We've been the MODEL of patience under pressure. If you crumble and shoot now, be ready for HELL tomorrow.

tldr I dare you to kill yourself by shooting off at town toDay.
 

Kantrip

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Like seriously I said nothing about quickshooting and your attitude is so patronizing you need to just stop
 

Xastrn

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I would hope if you were town and so rational you would hear a post made about you, hear there is more to say and we are working on posting it, and then simply interact and wait, or continue in making more information known or give more reads, or summarize your stance on everyone in the game in one thread, or SOMETHING useful.

If you are "done with this" meaning "i'm shooting someone now" then you will be digging your own grave.
 

ranmaru

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Yo, reading. Doing the thing that Zen says I don't do.

While doing so, Kantrip, when and why did you change your read on Xastrn?

Why have you not actually given a reason to why you think I'm the play? In fact, can you tell me who has? (I can only really remember Zen giving reasons). Sure one person has the power the shoot, but if everyone agrees without giving the reason, how will town move on tomorrow if I were to flip town?
 

Kantrip

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I'm done with this as in I don't want to read any more of your ****ty long-winded posts and I don't want to have to use up my time in this thread defensing myself from your ******** accusations
 

FullMetalLynch

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Yo, reading. Doing the thing that Zen says I don't do.

While doing so, Kantrip, when and why did you change your read on Xastrn?

Why have you not actually given a reason to why you think I'm the play? In fact, can you tell me who has? (I can only really remember Zen giving reasons). Sure one person has the power the shoot, but if everyone agrees without giving the reason, how will town move on tomorrow if I were to flip town?

If.

mfw it can't be this easy
 

ranmaru

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If he shot kary, and kary was scum, would you say bussing ? Same question fro ran.

Hmm, don't think so. He's been pushing a case on Kary all day and asking about it. Would most likely be genuine.
 

FullMetalLynch

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EBWOP
Yo, reading. Doing the thing that Zen says I don't do.

While doing so, Kantrip, when and why did you change your read on Xastrn?

Why have you not actually given a reason to why you think I'm the play? In fact, can you tell me who has? (I can only really remember Zen giving reasons). Sure one person has the power the shoot, but if everyone agrees without giving the reason, how will town move on tomorrow if I were to flip town?
Dat if dough
 

Kantrip

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Yo, reading. Doing the thing that Zen says I don't do.

While doing so, Kantrip, when and why did you change your read on Xastrn?

Why have you not actually given a reason to why you think I'm the play? In fact, can you tell me who has? (I can only really remember Zen giving reasons). Sure one person has the power the shoot, but if everyone agrees without giving the reason, how will town move on tomorrow if I were to flip town?
Changed my read while talking to Sokr about my realizations regarding the setup. We agreed that scum having linked safe-claims is dumb.

pawn was scum, you replaced in a posted a bunch of irrelevant stuff like a case on Raz who had already flipped town, and then basically I looked at Zen's case and saw merit. You were basically null to me until I read Zen's case, and I realized that Xastrn isn't a priority because he has used his dragonstone, and Zen can prove he has a beaststone toMorrow. This narrowed it down to you and Kary for me, which explains me wanting Kary to shoot you to deal with both of you at once.
 

ranmaru

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then basically I looked at Zen's case and saw merit.

I got you. But this is what I want to know especially. What about it do you agree with, and how do you think I did in responding?
 

Circus

Rhymes with Jerkus
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Gentle reminder that Death Mountain is in this game now, not Ranmaru.
 

Death Mountain

Ranmaru|Rajam
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You said "this question fro ran too"



I mean when. But it's like saying "If this were to happen, can't you see it would be a bad thing that you guys let it happen without giving reasons".

Gonna log in to my hydra btw

whoops

RAWR

LOOK AT MY FACE
 

FullMetalLynch

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You said "this question fro ran too"



I mean when. But it's like saying "If this were to happen, can't you see it would be a bad thing that you guys let it happen without giving reasons".

Gonna log in to my hydra btw

I meant if kantplay shot u and u flipped scum, would xast take it as a bus. Not your opinion on it xD
 

FullMetalLynch

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You said "this question fro ran too"



I mean when. But it's like saying "If this were to happen, can't you see it would be a bad thing that you guys let it happen without giving reasons".

Gonna log in to my hydra btw
then why didnt u say when.

U don't know what ur going to flip ?

It's not really the same difference. as town i'd expect u to say: when i flip town what happens ?
 

Kantrip

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then why didnt u say when.

U don't know what ur going to flip ?

It's not really the same difference. as town i'd expect u to say: when i flip town what happens ?
I don't find this telling. I do the same thing. The "if" applies more to the "if I am lynched/killed" rather than "if I am town."
 

FullMetalLynch

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shush kantplay. I'm pushing ran on a arguable null tell hard to see how he reacts and ur ruining it!!
 

Death Mountain

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I wasn't asking people to give opinions, so I wouldn't say "When flip town then what :mad:"

I was talking about you guys using less reasoning to just jump on me. So I'm saying if (I'm shot) and when I flip town, how can town go on tomorrow to find the Grima when they just agree. It's more about the 'if I were to flip town in your eyes" because you all obv think I'm gonna flip scum, which won't happen. That's what I'm trying to explain. Good gorf.
 

Xastrn

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What do you mean by "i'm done with this" then? What is it about our case against you (much of which is still being typed by Xatres as I speak) that makes you throw your hands in the air and say "I'm done with this?"

We have a strong town read on Kary. We have a 100% strong town read on Zen. dabuz is in the back. Ranmaru is gone, and his replacement is who knows where, and that case has no legs anyways. At least not until we deal with our two biggest scum reads: you and....wait for it.
 

FullMetalLynch

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What do you mean by "i'm done with this" then? What is it about our case against you (much of which is still being typed by Xatres as I speak) that makes you throw your hands in the air and say "I'm done with this?"

We have a strong town read on Kary. We have a 100% strong town read on Zen. dabuz is in the back. Ranmaru is gone, and his replacement is who knows where, and that case has no legs anyways. At least not until we deal with our two biggest scum reads: you and....wait for it.

Not sure if i should have a boner.jpg waiting for this.
 

Death Mountain

Ranmaru|Rajam
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Ran why did you post a case on Raziek when he was dead?

Surely you were aware he was dead, right?
Well for one, I worked on that all night and I just copy pastad that real quick. I saw the flips quickly before, yes, but I posted it anyways because: I need to show my work. Regardless people found me suspicious for having less reads. It also shows I TOOK time to look at Raz's (few posts), so that's why I left it there.
 
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