Fire Emblem: Awakening Mafia | GAME OVER: Not Equal To The Challenge

[#HBC | Kary]

Ran, what happened to your read on Sokr?

 

[Xivii]

Zen, who do you want most going today and why?

Also, how are you reading me currently?

To answer both your questions, right now you.

Scum
Ran: Grimy as hell. I feel like he is trying to keep the appearance of his town meta (posting a lot), but I don't feel like he is actually trying to read into anything. I don't expect town ran to just ignore posts which he has clearly been doing. Such as when he first came in and ignored the entire page because he felt it was just "me defending against stuff". If that were the case, why ignore it??? Why would he not read into it?

It seems like you're skimming hard core and not really being analytic. Like it doesn't seem like you're trying to find out anyone's alignment, but rather are just sticking to the reads you started out with. As I said in the quote above, you completely ignored a page once day 2 started until I told you to go back and actually read it. And you've shown to do this a second time as well:

True. I haven't. I didn't even notice a Kary case from you. :s Especially your Xastrn case, as I was catching up and would read it later. I'll read them and give thoughts once I do.

I townread Kantrip, Kary, FML, that's about it. What I mean by 'my reads not likely changing' is I would narrow it down to the nulls. Obviously I want to keep my townreads, but I am willing to re-assess them if I have to. I don't think this is the time for that, yet I'll look at your cases still.

Secondly your reads...

Your dabuz stuff is so weak man. Both Ruy and FML agree with this. You're basing your read completely on meta that doesn't line up which Ruy already went into. And you're ignoring your other "strong" scum read (Sokr) because you "trust Kantrip's read". That's not progressive at all and is a complete cop out.

 

[Xivii]

Xastrn, I'm still unclear as to why you think you and Zen have to be on the same team. I know you addressed it but I didn't follow. Why can't one of you be town and the other a safe claim? Keep in mind that if one of you has the safe claim, that person won't necessarily have the even or odd day shenanigans. They'd merely be claiming to have that. Zen, I'd like to hear your thoughts on this as well.

Potassium, I'll get to your case on Kary either today or tomorrow. Depends on if I fall asleep or not.

Yes I considered that, but I think the fact that he was able to use dragonstones is proof enough. I just realized I could prove mine too by publicly trading my beaststone tomorrow and getting it traded back.

 

[Kantrip]

That was actually what I was going to ask you to do, Zen.

Except I was thinking that you and Xastrn would be able to use each other's weapons, based on the fact that in the game they fall under the category of stones.

I didn't think that you could just have it traded back again. Would you be willing to do this?

 

[Kantrip]

Worded that last sentence wrong. I meant to say I didn't think about that option, as in it hadn't crossed my mind.

You'd need to be Switched to an Active position in order to trade publicly, and your recipient would need to be an Active unit in order to give it back.

I know you townread Kary, but I want your opinion of my case too. I'm planning to reread Ran tomorrow and I'll be keeping your points in mind when I do.

 

[Sokr]

Potassium, wrt your case on kary: I don't think the points you raised are telling enough. Indecisiveness is not a scum tell. I myself am ridiculously guilty of this. His not caring about Xast being shot is understandable. With so many posts calling for Xast's head it would be insane and nearly impossible to try and put a stop to that. As for Kary arguing with Xastrn but maintaining a town read, that's null. I've done that except with a null read on xast. Xastrn can be annoying at times and he definitely thinks differently than most people here. Thats naturally going to cause arguments. But just because someone has a different opinion doesn't make them scum.

In summary, I like the effort you put in and that you're actively scum hunting, but I don't think you've got anything on Kary in that post.

 

[Kantrip]

Kary is not an indecisive player though. He is being deliberately fence-sitty. He argued with soup and then concluded "soup may or may not be scum." He argued with Xastrn for pages upon pages and said "I still think Xastrn is town but he'll probably die anyways." Surely you can see the apathetic undertones of those statements, which are more than just being unsure or changing your mind. Kary hasn't been changing his mind, so indecisiveness doesn't really fit to describe his incredibly non-committal stances.

 

[Kantrip]

And what about other points? Like all of his empty questions? Empty because he has posts asking a bunch of them to different players (well after RVS) and doing nothing with their answers. Personally, that was a big scumtell of mine before I started catching myself doing it (Awkward Moments Mafia if you want a game as an example of me doing this).

 

[Xivii]

That was actually what I was going to ask you to do, Zen.

Except I was thinking that you and Xastrn would be able to use each other's weapons, based on the fact that in the game they fall under the category of stones.

I didn't think that you could just have it traded back again. Would you be willing to do this?

Yeah I am.

Thing with Kary is that he is a fence-sitty player. What makes you say otherwise? That's how he's always been and it has always annoyed me. It's something I've just learned to deal with. Kary will use every last ounce of the day if he could. He doesn't like to lynch anyone until he has 100% condemning evidence. And he's never felt that he's had the power to influence other's with reasoning. He'll say he thinks something, but not push it. I know this because it used to be a big pet-peeve for me.

As for why I'm town reading him, it's actually one of the same reasons for why you're scum reading him: his town reading on soup and Xast despite the arguing.

What this shows to me is two thins: 1. He is not arguing just to paint someone in a bad light, but rather to gain a deeper understanding of them. I remember after the argument with soup I made a post further elaborating on soup's side of it and it was like he had an ah-ha moment. He didn't unnecessarily stick to his argument just for image sake. And then with Xast, there's been so much pressure on him, and Kary had more than enough to push him on but he didn't. 2. Not afraid to look contradictory. Scum is looking to maintain a consistent image, town however will change their views for what they feel is right despite how it makes them look. This to me is in contrast with how Ran has been playing so far.

 

[Kantrip]

Interested to see how Ran responds to your case.

I appreciate your perspective on Kary.

Going for the night, peace.

 

[#HBC | Kary]

You should have played with me enough ****ing times to know how I play. I am town. The idea that something you do as scum is going to be something I do as scum is nonsense. I always ask ****ing questions and people think they don't go anywhere. The fact is, sometimes they don't, but I read people best when I am interacting with them.

The idea that I am deliberately fence-sitting is stupid. The reason I have not been pushing one thing or another is because I have not had anything to go on. It's only recently that players like RR and Zen have actually shared some reads, and now I feel like we might be getting somewhere. The idea that I didn't have a soup read on page 3 of the game is somehow relevant is frankly laughable. And I know I shouldn't have argued with Xast. But how ****ing irritating I find them to be doesn't actually have much to do with my read on them.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Starting to rethink today, gog damn it I like what Zen is posting again, damn wizards and their magics.

Wanna talk to Ran more, uneasy with how he posted back to me on Dabuz.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Kantrip don't shoot Xastrn, I'm actually not gonna be bullheaded about this.

I'm interested in more from Ran first.

 

[ranmaru]

Ran, what happened to your read on Sokr?

He's on the backburner. I'll re-read him and give my further developed read on him.

It seems like you're skimming hard core and not really being analytic. Like it doesn't seem like you're trying to find out anyone's alignment, but rather are just sticking to the reads you started out with. As I said in the quote above, you completely ignored a page once day 2 started until I told you to go back and actually read it. And you've shown to do this a second time as well:

I was catching up. Two cases from someone I townread, isn't something of interest to me when I want to focus more on things I find suspicious. Consider I'd rather get into the game to play, rather than read all of the damn cases and especially the walls. I play this way all the time. I look for what's important. I didn't think you actually posted anything interesting for me to read further into. I wanted to talk reads, but what you said wasn't much. I don't see how this is telling. This is not the first time I have skimmed. (Nor the last, especially when catching up)

Your dabuz stuff is so weak man. Both Ruy and FML agree with this. You're basing your read completely on meta that doesn't line up which Ruy already went into. And you're ignoring your other "strong" scum read (Sokr) because you "trust Kantrip's read". That's not progressive at all and is a complete cop out.

Underlined, I don't see how or why you put this in. This doesn't help support your point, because Ryu hasn't given any evidence, nor has FML.

You can't base this on anything, because neither you nor Ryu can back it up with actual evidence. You are also very wrong when it comes to my read on him, it's not just meta, but his play here that concerns me, and I have shown that. I think the problem is no one is looking at him as hard as I am. "Oh, his play is fine" is all I get. You have a problem with a guy trying to talk more about Dabuz, but when Dabuz isn't even trying to focus on his scumread, oh he's just fine. Come on now. Also, look at this:

I agree with you on sokr and dabuz, disagree with xastrn. Did you read my reasoning?

You say what I say is weak on Dabuz, but it's basically the same thing as I put in my catch up. This is interesting to me, because it shows that you actually are trying to **** on me when the time is right, instead of actually explain why you think my dabuz reasoning is weak and suspicious, and you don't actually say you agree with it here. Yet you don't, and you simply agree with Ryu, who also has just disagreed without really explaining why. I have shown the evidence. You can't just say "Yeah it's exactly the same" when I see it differently, and have SHOWN IT to be different.

I'm willing to re-evaluate Sokr if Kantrip can read him very well. He's currently on the backburner for now. I am also developing other reads too. I think it's wrong for you to say that I am not. For example, you. I ask for you to talk reads with me, but you tell me "later" and only come back with this. You are doing much less than I am. This is the only action here that I can 'read' from. It's also interesting for you to tell me you find my case on Dabuz weak when you yourself had agreed with my initial scumread on him. I'll give an updated reads list later on, including you, sokr, ryu, and fml. (Kantrip, I will also look into your cases on kary/xastrn and include those thoughts in there too) And guess what, I'm still waiting on reads from Xastrn, who has rl stuff to contend to.

 

[ranmaru]

Wanna talk to Ran more, uneasy with how he posted back to me on Dabuz.

Why do you only say this AFTER Zen posts a case on me?

 

[Xastrn]

Xastrn, I'm still unclear as to why you think you and Zen have to be on the same team. I know you addressed it but I didn't follow. Why can't one of you be town and the other a safe claim? Keep in mind that if one of you has the safe claim, that person won't necessarily have the even or odd day shenanigans. They'd merely be claiming to have that. Zen, I'd like to hear your thoughts on this as well.

Basically this comes down to good game design.

The mod sits down to build a game themed on Fire Emblem, and sees that there is an Odd Rhythm and Even Rhythm power in the game. He knows that mafia runs on a daily cycle and that some mods give players powers that only work on odd or even numbered days. This makes the Rhythm powers fit perfectly into a game of mafia. Because this is a BiM game, his most logical choice is to make the odd and even number affect daykills.

Now, he has a choice. Does he make the roles 2 townies, 2 scum, or town/scum? Two townies makes sense because it creates two players who compliment each other and will naturally seek each other out during the day. The pair-up mechanic encourages us to pair with the opposite day person, so we can always be protecting a town kill. Two scum makes sense because it forces certain scum to make kills on certain days. This would help balance some of the swing of BiM by limiting when scum can and cannot daykill. These are the two most logical and well-designed options.

Town/scum, meanwhile, creates a bit of a ******* mod scenario. The townie will see his has an Odd or Even Rhythmed character and immediately think he must have a counterpart out there in town. The scum will see his role and/or fake claim, see that none of his scummates have the same, and assume there is a townie out there looking for a partner. This creates a situation where the scum's fake claim not only provides a way to hide the fact he's scum, but actively deceives the town player about the design of the game in general.

Dastrn and I (and Zen too) have chosen to trust that Circus wouldn't screw with our heads by introducing a bit of bastardy into an already swingy setup. That's why we say we must either both be town or both be scum.

As far as why we think people should believe we are town? The added power of being able to end the Day by attacking on the wrong day is just too OP for scum to have. No lynches almost always work in scum's favor, and allowing them to create a no-lynch without even breaking a weapon would be totally overpowered.

(Wi-Fi is back!)

 

[Xastrn]

@Ran: Thoughts on Dastrn's reread of doubloons?

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Why do you only say this AFTER Zen posts a case on me?

I wasn't liking how you addressed me on it during it if that wasn't clear.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Basically this comes down to good game design.

The mod sits down to build a game themed on Fire Emblem, and sees that there is an Odd Rhythm and Even Rhythm power in the game. He knows that mafia runs on a daily cycle and that some mods give players powers that only work on odd or even numbered days. This makes the Rhythm powers fit perfectly into a game of mafia. Because this is a BiM game, his most logical choice is to make the odd and even number affect daykills.

Now, he has a choice. Does he make the roles 2 townies, 2 scum, or town/scum? Two townies makes sense because it creates two players who compliment each other and will naturally seek each other out during the day. The pair-up mechanic encourages us to pair with the opposite day person, so we can always be protecting a town kill. Two scum makes sense because it forces certain scum to make kills on certain days. This would help balance some of the swing of BiM by limiting when scum can and cannot daykill. These are the two most logical and well-designed options.

Town/scum, meanwhile, creates a bit of a ******* mod scenario. The townie will see his has an Odd or Even Rhythmed character and immediately think he must have a counterpart out there in town. The scum will see his role and/or fake claim, see that none of his scummates have the same, and assume there is a townie out there looking for a partner. This creates a situation where the scum's fake claim not only provides a way to hide the fact he's scum, but actively deceives the town player about the design of the game in general.

Dastrn and I (and Zen too) have chosen to trust that Circus wouldn't screw with our heads by introducing a bit of *******y into an already swingy setup. That's why we say we must either both be town or both be scum.

As far as why we think people should believe we are town? The added power of being able to end the Day by attacking on the wrong day is just too OP for scum to have. No lynches almost always work in scum's favor, and allowing them to create a no-lynch without even breaking a weapon would be totally overpowered.

(Wi-Fi is back!)

Stop with this, really just stop with this wifom drop.

Nabe abused this **** in Hearts mafia to make his fake claim.

 

[ranmaru]

I'll concede my point about you (or rather, I'll consider it as weaker) trying to use the "your dabuz reasoning is weak" stance on me when you have talked to me about it. The thing is that you still agreed to my original reasoning, yet you seem to down-play it here:

ಠ_ಠ
But didn't he lurk in Walmart as well? I hardly even remembered that he was in that game. dabuz was scum in Ryker's game wasn't he? His play was the same there as it was in walmart and ever other game. You're other reasoning for dabuz scum was his read on Xast (not having it yesterday, but having it today). Is that all?

As I told Ryu, the lurking isn't what is important (Because he's usually a low-post player, but when town, he can give enough content to read him by). What's important is why he is choosing to do what he is doing. I am even trying to develop my read even further, by asking him about why he is re-reading Kantrip, here in my #1119. This is important because he only focused on re-reading Kantrip, and posted a case after. But what about Xastrn? Why hasn't he continued to push on Kantrip? Kantrip posed a very good question to him, and that was why Dabuz would think Kantrip is scum with Xastrn. Did he answer that?

Anyways, I still don't understand why you don't at least show what it is you actually agree with me about Dabuz. But you never went into that. You just said the above, and then went into your case on me. Also, You are saying I'm not being analytical, but look at this:

Reads:

Dabuz, is at the same level of Sokr. He comes across as fluffy, and isn't really doing much at all. He asks questions that have been asked already, such as Kantrip's 'why is Sokr in the town pile' question. To me that is a question to seem usefull. Soup asks him a very good question, and Dabuz simply excuses his lazy play due to the discussion being filled with Mechanics, yet others weren't simply talking about Mechanics, he could have given an FoS. That excuse doesn't relieve my concerns of Dabuz. As with Sokr, Dabuz seems to be posting to post, rather than lurking when he's by himself. This makes sense, when you are with a team, you have to man up and try to do things to help the team, instead of drag them down. It's what I had to do in Scooter Mafia.

Boom, much more analysis than...

dabuz - leaning town,d1 posts and his continuing posts seem fine to me. I think he has interest in the game.

Yeah, he's fine. He seems interested in the game. Town tell. Whoop dee doo.

 

[FullMetalLynch]

Lol doubloons.
Orbo will be running errands for a while bbl guys

 

[Xastrn]

Stop with this, really just stop with this wifom drop.

Nabe abused this **** in Hearts mafia to make his fake claim.

I was asked a question and answered it.

I don't plan to keep harping on this all day. No worries.

 

[ranmaru]

@Ran: Thoughts on Dastrn's reread of doubloons?

Honestly I go "He townreads him ;-;". I appreciate Dastrn doing so, of course, and will give more in depth thoughts on it.

I wasn't liking how you addressed me on it during it if that wasn't clear.

Yeah but why didn't you just call me out before though, not after Zen posted a case so you can piggy back it like you did on Soup D1.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Honestly I go "He townreads him ;-;". I appreciate Dastrn doing so, of course, and will give more in depth thoughts on it.





Yeah but why didn't you just call me out before though, not after Zen posted a case so you can piggy back it like you did on Soup D1.

I don't make cases anymore.

 

[ranmaru]

Town/scum, meanwhile, creates a bit of a ******* mod scenario. The townie will see his has an Odd or Even Rhythmed character and immediately think he must have a counterpart out there in town. The scum will see his role and/or fake claim, see that none of his scummates have the same, and assume there is a townie out there looking for a partner. This creates a situation where the scum's fake claim not only provides a way to hide the fact he's scum, but actively deceives the town player about the design of the game in general.

I think this is the problem with trying to figure out the setup and get reads from that. Blue+Red, this seems like a red herring to me. Who says we should rely on the design of the game to establish reads when we can also find out from their in-game actions? I mean, does your role pm say your counterpart is confirmed town? If so, then I'll step down. But otherwise, whose to say your partner can't be scum?

 

[ranmaru]

I don't make cases anymore.

Yeah I didn't say "Ryu why didn't you make a case on me", I said why didn't you simply say exactly what you said on this page. "Ran, your blah blah blah makes me uneasy". Also, you were damn confident in saying you wanted to Shoot Xastrn, so you can still PUSH something, even if you don't make 'cases'. So that doesn't mean you can't still show dislike.

 

[ranmaru]

I also need to dip, need to work on this last minute paper for mosaics that I skimped on last night.

 

[Xastrn]

I think this is the problem with trying to figure out the setup and get reads from that. Blue+Red, this seems like a red herring to me. Who says we should rely on the design of the game to establish reads when we can also find out from their in-game actions? I mean, does your role pm say your counterpart is confirmed town? If so, then I'll step down. But otherwise, whose to say your partner can't be scum?

Not saying it's impossible, just saying it would be poor game design. If you'd like, I'd be happy to work on a Zen reread today in order to provide more on why we think he's town.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Yeah I didn't say "Ryu why didn't you make a case on me", I said why didn't you simply say exactly what you said on this page. "Ran, your blah blah blah makes me uneasy". Also, you were damn confident in saying you wanted to Shoot Xastrn, so you can still PUSH something, even if you don't make 'cases'. So that doesn't mean you can't still show dislike.

I did though,

This is a load of crap.

His activity fluctuates a lot.

Like you have shown anything that isn't what I said before.

You've been showing the same tells that people tried to comdemn me on in Wallmart, aka not WL but FML and others.You have not shown anything that shows what he is doing is a scum tell to his win con. All you have shown is the same tells that he does all the time.

He can do better?

Ummm, ok but why is that scummy if he is off from what he did in another game? Oh Ryker is off on his reads, better lynch him! opps he was town in Adventure time when people lynched him over that.

Seriously Ran, how is any of this more confident than Xastrn scum?

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

He's on the backburner. I'll re-read him and give my further developed read on him.



I was catching up. Two cases from someone I townread, isn't something of interest to me when I want to focus more on things I find suspicious. Consider I'd rather get into the game to play, rather than read all of the damn cases and especially the walls. I play this way all the time. I look for what's important. I didn't think you actually posted anything interesting for me to read further into. I wanted to talk reads, but what you said wasn't much. I don't see how this is telling. This is not the first time I have skimmed. (Nor the last, especially when catching up)




Underlined, I don't see how or why you put this in. This doesn't help support your point, because Ryu hasn't given any evidence, nor has FML.

You can't base this on anything, because neither you nor Ryu can back it up with actual evidence. You are also very wrong when it comes to my read on him, it's not just meta, but his play here that concerns me, and I have shown that. I think the problem is no one is looking at him as hard as I am. "Oh, his play is fine" is all I get. You have a problem with a guy trying to talk more about Dabuz, but when Dabuz isn't even trying to focus on his scumread, oh he's just fine. Come on now. Also, look at this:



You say what I say is weak on Dabuz, but it's basically the same thing as I put in my catch up. This is interesting to me, because it shows that you actually are trying to **** on me when the time is right, instead of actually explain why you think my dabuz reasoning is weak and suspicious, and you don't actually say you agree with it here. Yet you don't, and you simply agree with Ryu, who also has just disagreed without really explaining why. I have shown the evidence. You can't just say "Yeah it's exactly the same" when I see it differently, and have SHOWN IT to be different.

I'm willing to re-evaluate Sokr if Kantrip can read him very well. He's currently on the backburner for now. I am also developing other reads too. I think it's wrong for you to say that I am not. For example, you. I ask for you to talk reads with me, but you tell me "later" and only come back with this. You are doing much less than I am. This is the only action here that I can 'read' from. It's also interesting for you to tell me you find my case on Dabuz weak when you yourself had agreed with my initial scumread on him. I'll give an updated reads list later on, including you, sokr, ryu, and fml. (Kantrip, I will also look into your cases on kary/xastrn and include those thoughts in there too) And guess what, I'm still waiting on reads from Xastrn, who has rl stuff to contend to.

Your evidence is pure misquoting meta.

 

[FullMetalLynch]

The more ryu posts, the more i like him

 

[Xastrn]

Stop with this, really just stop with this wifom drop.

Nabe abused this **** in Hearts mafia to make his fake claim.

The question was asked. It was answered. You're calling it wifom. We're calling it logic. Take a step back and try to answer the question of why it would be good or bad game design on your own.

In fact, make a post roughly the same size as Xatres just did, giving your thoughts for and against a scum/town pair of even odd rhythm players. If you want to dismiss it so quickly, expect us (town) to demand more from you.

Make your case as to why it would be balanced if the roles were split between factions. Go.

You have 12 hours or I'm shooting you with my special laser beam eyeballs that are an extra PR and will melt you and also fry your computer. The clock is ticking, my friend.

 

[Sokr]

Xastrn and Zen, can you answer Ran's question about whether your role pm confirms your counterpart as town, or does it merely imply that you have a counterpart.

Xastrn, you haven't sold me on the impossibility of you and Zen being town/scum. You say this is the case because the safeclaim would give scum something to hide behind, but isn't that the point of a safeclaim? That's what scum's gameplay is based around. Lies and deceipt. It's town's job to try and sort the liars from the rest.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

You have 12 hours or I'm shooting you with my special laser beam eyeballs that are an extra PR and will melt you and also fry your computer. The clock is ticking, my friend.

Not at at threatened, and you'd waste your shot.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Not at all* 3 hrs of sleep a go go.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Make your case as to why it would be balanced if the roles were split between factions. Go.

Til your roles are proven, this is a useless thing to ask.

Nabe used his very very skilled ability to read set-ups to make his fake claim based off of Ran's role in Hearts mafia. He was lying of course but we had no way to disprove his claim with what we had.

 

[Xastrn]

Til your roles are proven, this is a useless thing to ask.

Nabe used his very very skilled ability to read set-ups to make his fake claim based off of Ran's role in Hearts mafia. He was lying of course but we had no way to disprove his claim with what we had.

dodge, duck, dip, dive, and dodge.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

dodge, duck, dip, dive, and dodge.

Any of the three, two town, 1 town 1 scum, 2 scum, are possible til I know more about the set-up via claims.

 

[Kantrip]

The question was asked. It was answered. You're calling it wifom. We're calling it logic. Take a step back and try to answer the question of why it would be good or bad game design on your own.

In fact, make a post roughly the same size as Xatres just did, giving your thoughts for and against a scum/town pair of even odd rhythm players. If you want to dismiss it so quickly, expect us (town) to demand more from you.

Make your case as to why it would be balanced if the roles were split between factions. Go.

You have 12 hours or I'm shooting you with my special laser beam eyeballs that are an extra PR and will melt you and also fry your computer. The clock is ticking, my friend.

You're not getting the part where you guys have NO confirmation that you even have role counterparts.

You ever heard of the Neighbour role? You get private communication with another player but your alignments are not confirmed to each other? You gonna say that having one town and one scum neighbour is ******* modding? Or is there some arbitrary caveat that makes my example different than what's going on here? You and Zen don't have private communication or the hint that the other even exists, all you have is the same passive ability, just on different Days. Hell, you don't even know if you have THAT because safe-claims exist! You do know what a safe-claim is, right?

 

[Xastrn]

Xastrn and Zen, can you answer Ran's question about whether your role pm confirms your counterpart as town, or does it merely imply that you have a counterpart.

Our role PM neither says directly nor implies that we have a counterpart. We inferred that a counterpart existed based on the mechanic itself. That's why we breadcrumbed heavily in both our first posts of D1. Zen took awhile to pick up on it, but once he did, he verified that he was telling the truth by mentioning the power to end the Day. Since this is a non-intuitive power that we didn't breadcrumb, we know for a fact that he's telling the truth about being Even Rhythmed.

Again, I concede that it's possible that Circus could have made the pairing to be town/scum, I simply don't believe he did so for design reasons. He also could have given scum all unbreakable weapons and an exemption to the 24-hour daykill wait period as well. But that would be unbalanced.