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Final Fantasy Dissidia
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SSJ5Goku8932
Smash Lord
Tidus and ExDeath are broken.
K64
Smash Apprentice
....and other calibrations. I'll buy it nonetheless because it's FF
Aqua Rock X
Smash Ace
Yeah, I can't wait for Dissidia to release here, it got me back into Final Fantasy. I'm thinking of maining either Squall, Zidane, WoL, or Cecil.
Here's something interesting I found on youtube. It's a Cowboy Bebop parody with Dissidia characters that the user found on nico video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thl7Co6-igo&feature=channel
Whoa at Terra and LOL at Kefka!!!!
Here's something interesting I found on youtube. It's a Cowboy Bebop parody with Dissidia characters that the user found on nico video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thl7Co6-igo&feature=channel
Whoa at Terra and LOL at Kefka!!!!
What r u talking about ExDeath is not broken
I had the game imported, its so awesome!
mirrorbladezen, do you have this game? you seem to know what ur talking about. tip about shantotto, have magic pot as a summon(not auto) let your opponent break you with a brave attack, when they go for an HP attack go out of their range, slow, summon, HP attack
I main Frionel btw
I don't have the game, but from what I understand and what I've seen, ExDeath can basically win by blocking the whole time and doesn't really have to do anything. From an offensive standpoint, he's one of the worst characters in the game, but he is unrivaled in defensive power and a majority of characters have a hard time successfully approaching him. The only bad matchups he appears to have are Gabranth (since ExDeath has nothing to stop him from going into EX mode) and maybe Cloud (who, from what I understand, needs to force ExDeath to approach). A majority of the cast has attacks that can't be countered, but most of these are slow. There are even 4 characters who don't have any attacks that can't be countered at all.
Broken may be a stretch, but it's not that big of one. He's about as good as Sagat in SFIV or Sheik in Melee.
SSJ5Goku8932
Smash Lord
Well what about Tidus,Hes the best character in the game.
Defense isn't a huge factor in the game, it only decreases the amount of Brave you get in an attack
plus I play long range (Frional's axe>everything)
I'm just saying he is not broken, his teleport leaves him wide open, and most of his attacks can easily be dodged, yet they are hard to block
Kefka is amazingly hard, yet my friends that have it say Butz is harder
His attacks are adequately predictable and his only long range r his blitzballs which follow you, its very annoying
in my opinion Garland is a very good character, but Zidane is the best? I don't use him much
SSJ5Goku8932
Smash Lord
Tidus has many links from brave to HP attack combos.He is god on Aitr battles,in which Dissdia is more towards.EX mode takes care of most mages.His attacks are hard to punish in the Air if you know what you are doing.
everybody does
1 dodge, using HP attacks in an Aitr battle takes more time than a brave attack so it is very easy to predict what your opponent is going to do when their right in your face
2 after any aerial attack, especially melee attacks have a cooldown period in the air leaving him open for a counter(take a look at cecil's aerial HP attack as an example, no not the one where he throws the beam of light at you)
EX bursts takes care of anybody period
SSJ5Goku8932
Smash Lord
Sure,everybody has Brave chaims to HP,But Tidus has the lowest risk of pulling it off.
He could use a brave attack instead.Anyone can guard>counter,Tidus just does it without as much risk as say,Seperioth,or most others.
EX modes are different for every character."Looks at Gabranth".
:http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=939394&topic=48124513
I can't believe they put ExDeath on top at Gamefaqs I'd expect them to put characters with unblockable moves on top because well, they're unblockable *looks at firion and butz*
The only character with a risk of missing a Brave-HP combo is cecil
and Gabranth can only do damage with his EX burst (and I respect that)
LOL GAMEFAQS
I stopped listening to GameFAQs for info on competitive games a long time ago.
There is a bunch of stuff on that tier list I disagree with. The main thing is Jecht. A lot of people whine about how he doesn't have a ranged attack, but that really doesn't matter much since he can approach safely with Jecht Block. He's an absolute beast at close range, almost unparalleled. A lot of people think that he's actually the best character in the game, and they have a substantial case supporting them.
I also don't see why Golbez and Ultimecia are so high and why Squall, Sephiroth, and Kefka are so low. This guy has a lot of poor reasoning. Sephiroth has a bad EX Mode and that makes him bottom tier? Seriously? He also brings up chaining into HP attacks, which, as we just discussed, everyone can do.
Personally, I'm more inclined to agree with this tier list from Dissidia Empowered:
I stopped listening to GameFAQs for info on competitive games a long time ago.
There is a bunch of stuff on that tier list I disagree with. The main thing is Jecht. A lot of people whine about how he doesn't have a ranged attack, but that really doesn't matter much since he can approach safely with Jecht Block. He's an absolute beast at close range, almost unparalleled. A lot of people think that he's actually the best character in the game, and they have a substantial case supporting them.
I also don't see why Golbez and Ultimecia are so high and why Squall, Sephiroth, and Kefka are so low. This guy has a lot of poor reasoning. Sephiroth has a bad EX Mode and that makes him bottom tier? Seriously? He also brings up chaining into HP attacks, which, as we just discussed, everyone can do.
Personally, I'm more inclined to agree with this tier list from Dissidia Empowered:
The only thing I disagree with on this is ExDeath's placement. He's definitely High Tier material. Gabranth might also be mid-tier, but a majority of the cast beats him solidly so I'm not sure. Also, I don't think it's necessary to have a God Tier yet.
Aqua Rock X
Smash Ace
Well one thing seems universal, that both lists place the The Emperor as the Melee Mewtwo/Brawl Falcon of Dissidia. Also between both rankings, the Father and Son of Blitz have a lot going for them and are pretty good. But wouldn't "God" tier imply a character who is too broken too be beaten? Is Jecht really that good, or did the user mistake "'God' Tier for "Top Tier"?
The DE tier list gives me a bit of hope for using Wol, but it sounds like Cecil will have to work extra hard to win.
The DE tier list gives me a bit of hope for using Wol, but it sounds like Cecil will have to work extra hard to win.
Cecil (paladin)can spam long range, I learned that the easy way (countered whenever he attacked me)
and I actually think Ultimecia should be higher only because her magic swords can guard crush and she can break characters very easily, same goes for CoD
and I actually think Ultimecia should be higher only because her magic swords can guard crush and she can break characters very easily, same goes for CoD
SSJ5Goku8932
Smash Lord
Well the game is still fairly young,I am surprised they already made a tier list.
Deception
Smash Ace
How is Golbez that low on that list? He's got some amazing combos at close range and long range.
he is extremely slow and his moves are predictable
Deception
Smash Ace
He's not slow at all. Garland's the slow and predictable one, Golbez has good speed and plenty of options.
Garland has range attacks you'd never expect him to have, making up for his speed, plus he could just glide around
Argh. I was kind of hoping nobody would start discussing tactics and crap in this thread before it is even released in America. It pretty much destroyed the thread...
Putting aside God-forsaken tier lists...
It is just around the corner, folks. If you havent already, you should check out the soundtrack on Youtube. Some very beautiful remixes, and it also includes some originals, very GOOD ones at that.
Putting aside God-forsaken tier lists...
It is just around the corner, folks. If you havent already, you should check out the soundtrack on Youtube. Some very beautiful remixes, and it also includes some originals, very GOOD ones at that.
Tier lists on Gfaqs pretty much suck.
You need consensus of people that know their character very well and can agree on certain decisions like matchups.
Just 'studying framerates' and some matches online wont cut it.
Beside, Dissidia probably wont have the following and dedication to have an healthy and serious competitive scene, so a tier list isnt needed at all.
Of course, Some characters are better than others, but the concept behind fighters like dissidia (X attack comboes to Y attack and thats it) doesn't really give has much as leeway as say, Smash where you have alot of freedom to combo.
Also the fact that pretty much everyone has an infinite.
You need consensus of people that know their character very well and can agree on certain decisions like matchups.
Just 'studying framerates' and some matches online wont cut it.
Beside, Dissidia probably wont have the following and dedication to have an healthy and serious competitive scene, so a tier list isnt needed at all.
Of course, Some characters are better than others, but the concept behind fighters like dissidia (X attack comboes to Y attack and thats it) doesn't really give has much as leeway as say, Smash where you have alot of freedom to combo.
Also the fact that pretty much everyone has an infinite.
OutlawStar
Smash Apprentice
I can`t wait for this game to come out in the U.S.
I love you two. Finally the thread continues. I didn't want to double post.
I hate tier lists in general, but with this not even being a mothership game, it may not even matter. I won't be butthurt about placements. My future main is pretty much high tier anyway. lololol
I hate tier lists in general, but with this not even being a mothership game, it may not even matter. I won't be butthurt about placements. My future main is pretty much high tier anyway. lololol
I heard they were fixing stuff up (Infinites) adding cameo characters in cutscenes and shortened the tutorial so that it takes less time for the lazy average american (No offense) for the overseas release.
Of course I can't find the source but hey, it'd be sweet.
EDIT : Google is your friend >:3
They also mention that Dissidia 2 will depend on sales overseas (IE if they make enough money) I also read somewhere that the guy (Nomura?) really wants Kain(FFIV?) for the second one.
Of course I can't find the source but hey, it'd be sweet.
EDIT : Google is your friend >:3
They also mention that Dissidia 2 will depend on sales overseas (IE if they make enough money) I also read somewhere that the guy (Nomura?) really wants Kain(FFIV?) for the second one.
Deception
Smash Ace
Yeah, Nomura said he wanted Kain in Dissidia pretty badly. That's why Dark Knight Cecil has a spear instead of a sword. He also said if Dissidia 2 is made, Kain is in it.
As for tier lists, I really don't see the need. Most of the characters are pretty good. Kuja stands out as one the tougher ones due to him being able to maneuver easily and attack at the same time,.
As for tier lists, I really don't see the need. Most of the characters are pretty good. Kuja stands out as one the tougher ones due to him being able to maneuver easily and attack at the same time,.
Black Waltz
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WOW, the FFIX Battle 1 remix sounds absolutely incredible.
@Black Waltz: Agreed. One of the best next to FF9's battle remix.
And if Nomura wants Kain in so bad, I could predict other side characters appearing in the next Dissidia:
FF1 -( Probably nobody.)
Minwu or Leon - FF2
FF3 - (Never played yet to know.)
Kain - FF4 (established. lol)
Gilgamesh - FF5
Locke - FF6
Zack - FF7 (I hear Zack is Cloud's alternate outfit, but might have been a rumor)
Seifer - FF8
Beatrix - FF9 (She needs more rep. An awesome character, and Dissidia needs more females.)
Seymour - FF10
FF11 - (They already broke Taboo with Shantotto. lol)
Vayne or Doctor Cid - FF12
And if Nomura wants Kain in so bad, I could predict other side characters appearing in the next Dissidia:
FF1 -( Probably nobody.)
Minwu or Leon - FF2
FF3 - (Never played yet to know.)
Kain - FF4 (established. lol)
Gilgamesh - FF5
Locke - FF6
Zack - FF7 (I hear Zack is Cloud's alternate outfit, but might have been a rumor)
Seifer - FF8
Beatrix - FF9 (She needs more rep. An awesome character, and Dissidia needs more females.)
Seymour - FF10
FF11 - (They already broke Taboo with Shantotto. lol)
Vayne or Doctor Cid - FF12
Kuja is such an annoying character in Dissidia he gets in the way and doesn't go away no matter how many times you try to hit him,
I'm spoiling the game aren't I... just a few more months people
Frionel? You mean Furion or is that the Emperor's name?
Haha and yeah, it's competitive Brawl all over again.
yeah Furion/Frionel same name
Oh right. The Japanese names. For those who don't know:
Frionel = Furion
Butz (I lol'd) = Bartz
Tina = Terra
There are a few others.
Terra has a playstyle that fits me. She is like a Zelda ripoff and I love it. Bartz also has a fun playstyle.
Frionel = Furion
Butz (I lol'd) = Bartz
Tina = Terra
There are a few others.
Terra has a playstyle that fits me. She is like a Zelda ripoff and I love it. Bartz also has a fun playstyle.
Kefka is my "fun" playstyle, that multi holy is just pure ****, and when just playing for fun, just jump up to a corner and use it it's hilarious trying to see your opponent dodge it from a distance