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Falcon's Manly Grab Release Combos FINISHED!!
- Thread starter Blahblahwutever
- Start date
Well, thats a good thing. :]I laugh a lot.
xD
t3h n00b
Smash Ace
Well, we can change that. I'm sorry for whatever I said in the Q&A that you didn't like.
I think we should post only about grab releases here. Whether they're completely accurate or not, the guy who made this thread did it to help discover grab release movestrings, and the current discussion isn't really helping that cause.
We, he isnt either.
His intentions are good, I'll give him that, but unfortunatly nothing more.
Not saying he cant change that, but the current discussion is getting us nowhere yet.
Darxmarth23
Smash Champion
Yeah...Okay. But changing the boards is hard. Considering people still have hate towards each other.
See?
talkingbeatles
Smash Ace
Awww... this is freakin' sad. I don't hate anyone here. Honestly guys, I think we're getting a lot of stuff done on these boards. Falcon mainers are pretty motivated, I think.
Darxmarth23
Smash Champion
Well, I don't think most of the new gen hates each other. Its the old gen that left a mark.
Darxmarth23
Smash Champion
I know you were kidding. I misquoted you for the lulz....
But I have an odd sense of humor....
Back to grab releases.....
talkingbeatles
Smash Ace
for sure...
I haven't really tested this yet, but I think after Jigglypuff gets released you can combo straight into a falcon dive. If so, that should be added to the OP.
Keep it on topic, gentlemen.
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SuSa
Banned via Administration
Because I don't even need my own words to say things.
Can you guys even air release Snake?
Also are you testing if the people can jump away? Some people can jump relatively early compared to those who cannot (MK)
Also - might I add - some of these just don't see possible. (Mostly the Falcon Kick ones) because your opponent can simply jump to avoid it.
On another note IIRC if you want to air release - you cannot be pummeling. Pummeling is how you get a grounded release (which is how Marth has his pseudo-infinite on Lucas/Ness)
Red-Blue
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Air Release Snake...? I don't think it's possible. Unless you're on the ledge, but that's pretty obvious when that's gonna happen. lolcypher
t3h n00b
Smash Ace
Anytime they're in the air, you can grab any character and force an air release. So if you get one grab, you can often uthrow Snake at a low percentage and force an air release. This is assuming that there are any true combos after the air release, I agree with SuSa about some of the combos probably not working. And pivot grabs allow you to air release taller characters than normal, but Snake is probably too tall to have an air release forced from that.
Only characters smaller than the character who grabs them get air released (their feet must be off the ground).
Or else they get ground released.
But the enemy can tap jump/hold up to get air released.
To force a ground release, one must be pummeling the opponent when they are beeing released.
In short:
Every character can force a ground release on every character, but forcing air releases requires the grabbing character to be bigger (as in, holding the grabbed character so the grabbed charecters feet are off the ground) than the grabbed character.
Meaning, that this:
is false.
t3h n00b
Smash Ace
So you're saying that when a character's feet are off the ground when you grab them, it doesn't force an air release? Explain cypher grabs then, among other things.
what?
please reread my previous post, kind sir.
t3h n00b
Smash Ace
I did. Cypher grabs wouldn't work based on your logic, as everyone is either shorter than Snake, or only slightly taller (Falcon/Ganon).
What are you talking about?
Please reread it again.
Sheesh.
Air releases require the grabbed character to be smaller (as in, feet off the ground) than the character grabbing them.
Or one must be holding the other character over the edge of the stage/a platform, so his/her feet are off the ground (off of the stage/the platform).
Darn, son, get your facts straight.
t3h n00b
Smash Ace
Calm down <3
That "or one" is what I alluded to, and you hadn't made it specific before this post.
Bigger =/= holding opponent so that their feet are off the ground, and if their feet are off the ground, then the character is in the air, which is what I said. But we both understand the mechanics.
Yoshi Kirishima
Smash Lord
Wow nice! Good for Falcon :D
I did specifically say that the feet of the grabbed character have to be off of the ground.
But its all good <3
sorry, I went outta line. (IRL fight+swf = need for an apology on swf eventually.).
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What is ?
Blahblahwutever
Smash Journeyman
The list is now finished!!!!
the characters not included have no grab release combos.
Do you guys think this will have an impact on Falcon's matchups or tier placement?
the characters not included have no grab release combos.
Do you guys think this will have an impact on Falcon's matchups or tier placement?
SuSa
Banned via Administration
Considering I highly doubt a lot of this is guaranteed or thoroughly tested..... no it won't.
For the ones he can force an air release on, the only think you may be able to land is a dash attack....
Also I need to research something on Falco for those who can force an air release. Snake can CG him using a buffered dash to a boost grab.... would that mean others may be able to CG him in that manner?
For the ones he can force an air release on, the only think you may be able to land is a dash attack....
Also I need to research something on Falco for those who can force an air release. Snake can CG him using a buffered dash to a boost grab.... would that mean others may be able to CG him in that manner?
Blahblahwutever
Smash Journeyman
Hey SuSa, you know what I hate?
The fact hat I can't boost grab.
So I can't test that for you.
Could someone tell me how to boost grab please?
The fact hat I can't boost grab.
So I can't test that for you.
Could someone tell me how to boost grab please?
SuSa
Banned via Administration
I don't think Falcon's boost grab does anything.... but I'll test when I get home
Just test his normal dash grab (although you probably did...)
Just test his normal dash grab (although you probably did...)
Blahblahwutever
Smash Journeyman
Yes, I did.
So how do you boost grab? I use nunchuck.
So how do you boost grab? I use nunchuck.
SuSa
Banned via Administration
Just like a DACUS without the up input.
Timing is also a bit stricter.
So:
Dash > Dash attack > Grab > Grab cancels dash attack
Timing is also a bit stricter.
So:
Dash > Dash attack > Grab > Grab cancels dash attack
Blahblahwutever
Smash Journeyman
is there any easy way?
like since my d-pad up and down are the corresponding smash attack, i just dash and slide my thumb over d-pad down and a and I DACUS.
like since my d-pad up and down are the corresponding smash attack, i just dash and slide my thumb over d-pad down and a and I DACUS.
SuSa
Banned via Administration
Press A to dash attack and then grab immediatly after... you'll need a button set to grab though. (AFAIK)
I normally have d-pad down on grab when I need to play with my wiimote.
I normally have d-pad down on grab when I need to play with my wiimote.
Blahblahwutever
Smash Journeyman
idk about changing my controls after using the same ones for about 10 months.
SuSa
Banned via Administration
Just do it for testing? Not like I'm asking you to use the controls.
I use 6 different control sets, and they are all character based. (1 for Snake, 1 for Pit, 1 for D3, 1 for IC's, 1 for Pikachu, and 1 for Falco, then 1 for EVERYONE... aka: same one as I use for Snake)
I use 6 different control sets, and they are all character based. (1 for Snake, 1 for Pit, 1 for D3, 1 for IC's, 1 for Pikachu, and 1 for Falco, then 1 for EVERYONE... aka: same one as I use for Snake)
t3h n00b
Smash Ace
I've boost grabbed with Falcon, but I'm not sure if it helps with distance at all, since his DACUS slides way less far than his hyphen smash. I guess I'll see tomorrow if no one else does.
DoB04
Smash Journeyman
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can anyone test what i posted please? if you grab directly after a nair, you should be able to air release any char (i tested it and it worked with ganondorf, and no he wasnt holding up or jumping cuz i set it to control on practice, so he did no input at all...)
if so that means we can air release more characters and land finishers...
can anyone test what i posted please? if you grab directly after a nair, you should be able to air release any char (i tested it and it worked with ganondorf, and no he wasnt holding up or jumping cuz i set it to control on practice, so he did no input at all...)
if so that means we can air release more characters and land finishers...
Blahblahwutever
Smash Journeyman
ive tested that already.
sorry for bad grammar im using a PSP.
sorry for bad grammar im using a PSP.