Falcon's Manly Grab Release Combos FINISHED!!

[Blahblahwutever]

So I was watching some videos on Youtube about grab releases and thought to myself "Hmm, if you were to buffer Falcon's dash, could that lead to some combos?" Yes I did post in the Q&A thread first.

Well, here are the ones tested so far:

SBR look please!!

:

grab>pummel>air release>buffered dash>up smash

grab>pummel>air release>buffered dash>up b

grab>pummel>air release>buffered dash>side b

grab>pummel>air release>buffered dash>down b

grab>pummel>air release>buffered dash>dash attack


:

grab>pummel>air release>buffered AAA combo

grab>pummel>air release>buffered up b

grab>pummel>air release>buffered side b

grab>pummel>air release>buffered forward smash (aimed upwards)

grab>pummel>air release>buffered up smash

grab>pummel>air release>buffered up tilt

grab>pummel>air release>buffered forward tilt (aimed upwards)

grab>pummel>air release>buffered full hop up air


:

grab>pummel>air release>buffered dash>up smash

grab>pummel>air release>buffered dash>dash attack

:

grab>pummel>air release>buffered dash>up smash

grab>pummel>air release>buffered dash>dash attack

:

grab>pummel>air release>buffered dash>up smash

grab>pummel>air release>buffered dash>up b

grab>pummel>air release>buffered dash>side b

grab>pummel>air release>buffered dash>down b

grab>pummel>air release>buffered dash>dash attack

:

grab>pummel>air release>buffered dash>up smash

grab>pummel>air release>buffered dash>up b

grab>pummel>air release>buffered dash>side b

grab>pummel>air release>buffered dash>down b

grab>pummel>air release>buffered dash>dash attack



:

grab>pummel>air release>buffered dash>up b

grab>pummel>air release>buffered down b

grab>pummel>air release>buffered dash>up smash

grab>pummel>air release>buffered dash>dash attack

grab>pummel>air release>buffered side b


:

grab>pummel>air release>buffered dash>up b

grab>pummel>air release>buffered down b

grab>pummel>air release>buffered dash>up smash

grab>pummel>air release>buffered dash>dash attack

grab>pummel>air release>buffered side b


:

grab>pummel>air release>buffered dash>up b VERY HARD

grab>pummel>air release>buffered dash>up smash


:

grab>pummel>air release>buffered dash>up b

grab>pummel>air release>buffered down b

grab>pummel>air release>buffered dash>up smash

grab>pummel>air release>buffered dash>dash attack

grab>pummel>air release>buffered side b



(requires first hit nair)

grab>air release>buffered dash>up smash

grab>air release>buffered dash>dash attack

grab>air release>side b

grab>air release>down b



:

grab>air release>buffered dash>up smash

grab>air release>buffered dash>dash attack

grab>air release>side b

grab>air release>down b



:

grab>air release>buffered dash>up smash

grab>air release>buffered dash>dash attack



(requires first hit nair)

grab>air release>buffered dash>up smash

grab>air release>buffered dash>dash attack

grab>air release>side b

grab>air release>down b



(requires first hit nair)

grab>air release>buffered dash>up smash

grab>air release>buffered dash>dash attack

grab>air release>side b



:

grab>air release>buffered dash>up smash



(requires first hit nair)

grab>air release>buffered dash>up smash

grab>air release>buffered dash>dash attack

grab>air release>side b



:

grab>air release>buffered dash>up smash

grab>air release>buffered dash>dash attack

grab>air release>side b



:

grab>air release>buffered dash>up smash

grab>air release>buffered dash>dash attack

grab>air release>side b

grab>air release>down b



:

grab>air release>buffered dash>up smash

grab>air release>buffered dash>dash attack

grab>air release>side b

grab>air release>down b



(requires first hit nair)

grab>air release>buffered dash>up smash

grab>air release>buffered dash>dash attack

grab>air release>side b



:

grab>air release>up b



(requires first hit nair)

grab>air release>buffered dash>up smash

grab>air release>buffered dash>dash attack

grab>air release>side b

grab>air release>down b

:

grab>air release>buffered dash>up smash

grab>air release>buffered dash>dash attack

grab>air release>side b

grab>air release>down b



(requires first hit nair)

grab>air release>buffered dash>up smash

grab>air release>buffered dash>dash attack

grab>air release>side b

grab>air release>down b



:shiekrequires first hit nair)

grab>air release>buffered dash>up smash

grab>air release>buffered dash>dash attack

 

[t3h n00b]

It's cool that you compiled all of this, but you saying uair(x2) implies that you think uair combos into itself, which is untrue, so are you 100% sure that these are all true combos? Sorry if I sound mean. Just wondering

 

[LuLLo]

My person too wonders if these are TRUE combo's but time will tell, I have no time to test this out myself, but if even some of these are true combo's, it's nice. Thanks for the testing though .

 

[masterdrenin]

CF mains definitely need to talk about the grab release

 

[Blahblahwutever]

I knew that but the reason I put (x2) in parenthesis is because it depends if they air dodge etc.

I'll take that out along with some other combos i found untrue.

'k

 

[talkingbeatles]

I'm sure I'm a fool, but I am unfamiliar with the term "buffered dash."
Help?

 

[Iwan]

Now I don't have to do testing YESSSSSSssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss

thanks

 

[Red-Blue]

And by 'what if I buffer dash', did you test 'what if I buffer jump/counterattack'?

 

[Wogrim]

What if I buffer C-C-C-C-COMBOBREAKER

I'm sure I'm a fool, but I am unfamiliar with the term "buffered dash."
Help?

Buffering means inputting the move a short time before another move ends, to guarantee that it happens as soon as possible because the game saves the input.

 

[t3h n00b]

And by 'what if I buffer dash', did you test 'what if I buffer jump/counterattack'?

Yeah, I agree. Did you test them on real people? And side B doesn't combo to uair, and also I'm pretty sure that a buffered dash is not necessary to do the combos with the B moves, if they actually work. Are you sure that Falcon Kick and Falcon Dive can't be airdodged after a grab release?

 

[lordhelmet]

Doesn't grab release only work on character smaller than Falcon?

 

[Red-Blue]

Doesn't grab release only work on character smaller than Falcon?

The way you formulated that sentence, just made me think of a real 'infinite' grab.

 

[lordhelmet]

The way you formulated that sentence, just made me think of a real 'infinite' grab.

-_-

10chars

 

[da K.I.D.]

i thought he couldregrab MK out of an air release?

also theres no way all these options are gauranteed on these characters

 

[kamimari36]

This seems too good to be true...

 

[Blahblahwutever]

I don't have a human to test all of these on (i'm only eleven and my brothers and sisters suck. My bro's okay, but once i told my OLDER sister (tenth grader) to grab the ledge in a 4-stock match and she SD'd 4 times.

so you get the picture.

and yes i will be getting rid of such combos and fix and fix until this will be second nature.

 

[Zeallyx]

So I was watching some videos on Youtube about grab releases and thought to myself "Hmm, if you were to buffer Falcon's dash, could that lead to some combos?" Yes I did post in the Q&A thread first.

Well, here are the ones tested so far:


:

grab>pummel>air release>buffered dash>up smash

grab>pummel>air release>buffered dash>up b

grab>pummel>air release>buffered dash>side b>full hop u air

grab>pummel>air release>buffered dash>down b

grab>pummel>air release>buffered dash>dash attack


:

grab>pummel>air release>buffered AAA combo

grab>pummel>air release>buffered up b

grab>pummel>air release>buffered forward b>full hop u air

grab>pummel>air release>buffered forward smash (aimed upwards)

grab>pummel>air release>buffered up smash

grab>pummel>air release>buffered up tilt

grab>pummel>air release>buffered forward tilt (aimed upwards)

grab>pummel>air release>buffered full hop up air

grab>pummel>air release next to edge>walk off double jump up air

grab>pummel>air release next to edge>walk off double jump forward air

grab>pummel>air release next to edge>walk off double jump neutral air

grab>pummel>air release next to edge>walk off double jump down air


:

grab>pummel>air release>buffered dash>up smash

grab>pummel>air release>buffered dash>up b

grab>pummel>air release>buffered dash>side b>full hop u air

grab>pummel>air release>buffered dash>down b

grab>pummel>air release>buffered dash>dash attack

:

grab>pummel>air release>buffered dash>up smash

grab>pummel>air release>buffered dash>up b

grab>pummel>air release>buffered dash>side b>full hop u air

grab>pummel>air release>buffered dash>down b

grab>pummel>air release>buffered dash>dash attack

:

grab>pummel>air release>buffered dash>up smash

grab>pummel>air release>buffered dash>up b

grab>pummel>air release>buffered dash>side b>full hop u air

grab>pummel>air release>buffered dash>down b

grab>pummel>air release>buffered dash>dash attack

:

grab>pummel>air release>buffered dash>up smash

grab>pummel>air release>buffered dash>up b

grab>pummel>air release>buffered dash>side b>full hop u air

grab>pummel>air release>buffered dash>down b

grab>pummel>air release>buffered dash>dash attack



:

grab>pummel>air release>buffered dash>up b

grab>pummel>air release>buffered down b

grab>pummel>air release>buffered dash>up smash

grab>pummel>air release>buffered dash>dash attack

grab>pummel>air release>buffered side b


:

grab>pummel>air release>buffered dash>up b

grab>pummel>air release>buffered down b

grab>pummel>air release>buffered dash>up smash

grab>pummel>air release>buffered dash>dash attack

grab>pummel>air release>buffered side b


:

grab>pummel>air release>buffered dash>up b VERY HARD

grab>pummel>air release>buffered down b

grab>pummel>air release>buffered dash>up smash


:

grab>pummel>air release>buffered dash>up b

grab>pummel>air release>buffered down b

grab>pummel>air release>buffered dash>up smash

grab>pummel>air release>buffered dash>dash attack

grab>pummel>air release>buffered side b

All the things I bolded+made red in your post dont work.
And you forgot grab release>Fair for wario, and grab release>regrab for squirtle (the best+most well known/most used/abused ones.).

 

[talkingbeatles]

Does Link have an air release after grab? My computer will only ground release, even when I never pummel him.

 

[Zeallyx]

Not all characters can be forced into an air release.
Only characters who are smaller (as in have their feet in the air while grabbed) than the character who is grabbing them.

When a character is not smaller than the character who's grabbing him/her, then the character who is beeing grabbed can only make him/herself be air released by jumping/holding up while beeing released.

 

[talkingbeatles]

Cool. Gothca.

 

[kamimari36]

So technically, I could create a list of the shortest and tallest characters in brawl based on if they are forced into an air release or not?

 

[Blahblahwutever]

so that means that the tallest character in the game (who?) can air release anybody and can't be grab released as well?

 

[t3h n00b]

So technically, I could create a list of the shortest and tallest characters in brawl based on if they are forced into an air release or not?

There is one already, and I think there's information on everyone who Falcon can air release in a thread somewhere (maybe Knee's).

so that means that the tallest character in the game (who?) can air release anybody and can't be grab released as well?

I'm pretty sure Ganon is first and Falcon is second, but since they are so close in height, I don't think Falcon can be normally air released either. However, you can grab any character from a platform or the edge when they're not on the stage and force a jump release. Also, some characters that can't be forced by Falcon to jump release that have average height can be pivot grabbed to force a jump release.

 

[kamimari36]

Okay thanks. I didn't know about the pivot grab tidbit though. That was new.

 

[DoB04]

the only one who can air everybody is yoshi I think...
and idk if this is 100% inescapable, but i was fighting a diddy a few days ago... i tried to grab release him, he ground released... after that, i grabbed him and immediately pummeled him ONCE... he air released... I was like wtf? so i tried it again and it kept on working (i was landing grab release > up smash on diddy :D)
idk if it was my friend who held up/jumped at the times i tried, or if the immediate pummel makes a difference.... anybody willing to test? :S

 

[DoB04]

copied from my thread:
hey guys, i think i discovered a pretty useful combo.... i don't know if most of you know of this, but if you grab an opponent while they are in the air, they will air release even if they are big (works on snake and even ganondorf) so since grabbing people in the air is extremely situational, autocanceling the first hit of nair > grab allows you to grab them while they are stunned in the air by the nair. This allows FALCON to air release most of the cast (so far from what i've tested, falco was the only one that it seemed to not work on....) and this means more grab release > running upsmashes and whatnot, so a totally new mine of discoveries to make to enhance Falcon's comboability, HYES! test away and ill update this post with new grab release combos as we find them :D

 

[Blahblahwutever]

DOUBLE POST!!!!!^^^

Oh and im trying to find time for testing and when i test there will be 3-4 more chars up

 

[F5Hazardousdoc]

Grab release > Knee

the only reason I CP to falcon against wario.

OH WAIT

I suck against wario with snake thats the other one

 

[Zeallyx]

Someone close this thread.
This thread crosses a line or two to say the least.

 

[Darxmarth23]

Wow, this fails.

 

[Iwan]

Some people need to stop being elitist and alienating new players in the community.

I love you all, but stop being d***s. I know there have been spam problems in the past, along with un-useful information/useless threads (myself being guilty of the ladder)...but this thread is in no way "crossing a line". The OP was merely doing some testing on an aspect of the game that isn't 100 percent fleshed out yet; grab releases are intriguing, to say the least.

The harrassment needs to stop, as does the minor trolling from a certain someone who I won't name. Nevertheless, if I continue to see disrespect to new players/spam/trolling on these boards, I'll happily start reporting people and even go as far as getting *insert well known mod here* to come check out these boards.

I'm sick of the disrespect.
I haven't said anything.

Now I've said something.

Start showing respect towards other, newer players guys. Seriously, it isn't hard.

 

[Zeallyx]

Some people need to stop being elitist and alienating new players in the community.

I love you all, but stop being d***s. I know there have been spam problems in the past, along with un-useful information/useless threads (myself being guilty of the ladder)...but this thread is in no way "crossing a line". The OP was merely doing some testing on an aspect of the game that isn't 100 percent fleshed out yet; grab releases are intriguing, to say the least.

The harrassment needs to stop, as does the minor trolling from a certain someone who I won't name. Nevertheless, if I continue to see disrespect to new players/spam/trolling on these boards, I'll happily start reporting people and even go as far as getting *insert well known mod here* to come check out these boards.

I'm sick of the disrespect.
I haven't said anything.

Now I've said something.

Start showing respect towards other, newer players guys. Seriously, it isn't hard.

No.
You may not be aware of the fact of the existence of 2 other (almost identical) threads with the same subject as this one. The other thread only differs from this one in the aspect that they only contained legit info.
This thread contains incorrect info, and as the topic creator doesnt seem to know that, its best to close this thread, and teach him/her the hard way.

In short: elitists>friendly folks who dont get anything done.

 

[Red-Blue]

Some people need to stop being elitist and alienating new players in the community.

I love you all, but stop being d***s. I know there have been spam problems in the past, along with un-useful information/useless threads (myself being guilty of the ladder)...but this thread is in no way "crossing a line". The OP was merely doing some testing on an aspect of the game that isn't 100 percent fleshed out yet; grab releases are intriguing, to say the least.

The harrassment needs to stop, as does the minor trolling from a certain someone who I won't name. Nevertheless, if I continue to see disrespect to new players/spam/trolling on these boards, I'll happily start reporting people and even go as far as getting *insert well known mod here* to come check out these boards.

I'm sick of the disrespect.
I haven't said anything.

Now I've said something.

Start showing respect towards other, newer players guys. Seriously, it isn't hard.

Welcome to the gang, buddy. True thoughts and feelings on the Falcon Boards usually result in infractions and bans. That's what happened to me.

Whether you like it or not, this place is going to be a ****hole, so you better get used to it.

 

[talkingbeatles]

Welcome to the gang, buddy. True thoughts and feelings on the Falcon Boards usually result in infractions and bans. That's what happened to me.

Whether you like it or not, this place is going to be a ****hole, so you better get used to it.

That's a terrible outlook to have.

 

[Red-Blue]

That's a terrible, yet correct outlook to have.

.

 

[Iwan]

No.
You may not be aware of the fact of the existence of 2 other (almost identical) threads with the same subject as this one. The other thread only differs from this one in the aspect that they only contained legit info.
This thread contains incorrect info, and as the topic creator doesnt seem to know that, its best to close this thread, and teach him/her the hard way.

In short: elitists>friendly folks who dont get anything done.

Just ease up on the attitude, Knee.

We're a friendly community, and I'm not against closing down threads or the like. There's just no need to have a tone with any sort of new poster. Express yourself in a more mature, better mannered tone.

This community is what it is today because of its friendly demeanor.

Take from that what you will.

 

[Zeallyx]

Just ease up on the attitude, Knee.

We're a friendly community, and I'm not against closing down threads or the like. There's just no need to have a tone with any sort of new poster. Express yourself in a more mature, better mannered tone.

This community is what it is today because of its friendly demeanor.

Take from that what you will.

You act like our community is organised and/or coorporating well etc..

But we have the least developed community of all character specific boards due to our too friendly demeanor.

The marth board is a good example. New people posting stupid stuff dont get away with it. That way they do research before posting next time, so they get to know their facts, and they will think twice before spamming/posting misinformed posts again.

Beeeing nice just doesnt work as well as telling new people the 'not so nice' truth.

 

[Iwan]

You act like our community is organised and/or coorporating well etc..

But we have the least developed community of all character specific boards due to our too friendly demeanor.

The marth board is a good example. New people posting stupid stuff dont get away with it. That way they do research before posting next time, so they get to know their facts, and they will think twice before spamming/posting misinformed posts again.

Beeeing nice just doesnt work as well as telling new people the 'not so nice' truth.

I was actually referencing the smash community in general. hahaha.

 

[Zeallyx]

I was actually referencing the smash community in general. hahaha.

..Ok.

But what are you laughing about?

 

[Darxmarth23]

The falcon community is sort of isolated from the rest of the boards.

We are NOT a friendly community.