Social Falco Social (Where We Prefer The Air And The Points Don't Matter!)

[Attila_]

Main reason why IAP isn't particularly useful is because it lacks a hitbox in the last 1/3 of the move. It has pretty laggy startup and has to be used near the opponent, it's not particularly safe to be used at this range. Doubt they'll end up changing this to match fox's hitbox.

As a side note, I wonder if IAP OoS can punish anything on shield that is normally unpunishable?

 

[Zionaze]

Main reason why IAP isn't particularly useful is because it lacks a hitbox in the last 1/3 of the move. It has pretty laggy startup and has to be used near the opponent, it's not particularly safe to be used at this range. Doubt they'll end up changing this to match fox's hitbox.

As a side note, I wonder if IAP OoS can punish anything on shield that is normally unpunishable?

the lack of a hitbox is what makes it useful for baiting punishes. you just cant be reckless with the move.
I also like to IAP to techchase after a jab finisher, its the perfect distance to catch backrolls/normal getup/getup attack. Can't catch forward roll though unfortunately.

 

[Attila_]

the lack of a hitbox is what makes it useful for baiting punishes. you just cant be reckless with the move.
I also like to IAP to techchase after a jab finisher, its the perfect distance to catch backrolls/normal getup/getup attack. Can't catch forward roll though unfortunately.

If it had a hitbox, it would have shield stun, which would effectively make it safer on block. I suppose the bait could work against unexperienced players, but it's not exactly something to bank on.

 

[ArhyLis]

Explosive blaster! O_O If anyone hasn't noticed yet, you can pseudo-chaingrab at low percents: DThrow > EBlaster > Dthrow > Fair (This nets a nice 25%.) Even after that you can throw out another shot because it covers the area your opponent might land on.
On certain characters, you can friggin DThrow > EBlaster > Dthrow > EBlaster > DThrow > EBlaster! Although at times this does become DI dependent. This will net you a nice 33%.
DThrow > EBlaster > VReflector (25%)
DThrow > EBlaster > F-Smash (26%)
DThrow > EBlaster > UpThrow > UpAir > UpAir (39%)
(All are guaranteed on Manondorf.)
It's quite flexible, you can get creative.
Edit:
I think the opponent can always DI out the opposite end of the EBlaster... nonetheless, I think it's still a nice tech.

 

[Ffamran]

Oh, I forgot to mention...
I think I'm confirmed for EVO this year. It all depends on how busy I'll be that weekend.
So! I may or may not be ready to drown in pools.

Now we just need confirmation from Pawclaw, Kato, Liquid, Eshura, Keitaro, Gamegenie, *insert list of names here*.

Would be freaking amazing and hilarious if some random player from anywhere shows up with a really good Falco. Not talking about a player who is mostly known in one region like Gluttony, the French Wario, but someone who shows up, bodies people, and everyone is asking who this player is. Someone nobody even knew existed.

Keitaro said he would go all Falco at EVO if a donation goal or something was met... Hmm, maybe you could play against him online or something. He also said he should be looking into combos more which we have plenty of and plenty of videos showing various play styles.

Explosive blaster! O_O If anyone hasn't noticed yet, you can pseudo-chaingrab at low percents: DThrow > EBlaster > Dthrow > Fair (This nets a nice 25%.) Even after that you can throw out another shot because it covers the area your opponent might land on.
On certain characters, you can friggin DThrow > EBlaster > Dthrow > EBlaster > DThrow > EBlaster! Although at times this does become DI dependent. This will net you a nice 33%.
DThrow > EBlaster > VReflector (25%)
DThrow > EBlaster > F-Smash (26%)
DThrow > EBlaster > UpThrow > UpAir > UpAir (39%)
(All are guaranteed on Manondorf.)
It's quite flexible, you can get creative.
Edit:
I think the opponent can always DI out the opposite end of the EBlaster... nonetheless, I think it's still a nice tech.

Well, at least Explosive Blaster is being looked at. Now Falco Phase and Charge need to be looked at too. This dead customs thread of ours: http://smashboards.com/threads/official-standard-custom-moveset-project-falco.380331/.

 

[Gamegenie222]

I can't go to Evo sadly lack of funds and poor college student life though. If I did went it would been for Smash 4 and GG XRD and I'm too rusty and butt with tech skill to enter melee ATM.

 

[ArhyLis]

Now we just need confirmation from Pawclaw, Kato, Liquid, Eshura, Keitaro, Gamegenie, *insert list of names here*.

Would be freaking amazing and hilarious if some random player from anywhere shows up with a really good Falco. Not talking about a player who is mostly known in one region like Gluttony, the French Wario, but someone who shows up, bodies people, and everyone is asking who this player is. Someone nobody even knew existed.

Keitaro said he would go all Falco at EVO if a donation goal or something was met... Hmm, maybe you could play against him online or something. He also said he should be looking into combos more which we have plenty of and plenty of videos showing various play styles.


Well, at least Explosive Blaster is being looked at. Now Falco Phase and Charge need to be looked at too. This dead customs thread of ours: http://smashboards.com/threads/official-standard-custom-moveset-project-falco.380331/.

Should I go post it there?

 

[Ffamran]

Should I go post it there?

Maybe. Outside of Reflector Void, Fast Fire Bird, and Distant Fire Bird, most of Falco's customs haven't been explored much.

 

[ArhyLis]

Maybe. Outside of Reflector Void, Fast Fire Bird, and Distant Fire Bird, most of Falco's customs haven't been explored much.

I don't mind exploring them. I Can't promise I will turn up with something good though.

 

[DEHF]

July 2015 is our time, that is all.

 

[BltzZ]

July 2015 is our time, that is all.

The suspense is killing me =[

 

[Ffamran]

You all seen Larry's tweet, right?

Saving Falco For evo. #DarkPhoenixrises

— Larry Lurr (@LarryLurr) June 29, 2015

I really hope Larry keeps his word and Keitaro, I'm not sure if his goal was met, but yeah. Also, Larry retweeted this. Falco's apparently a hidden boss.

@TheSmashHub @NME_Tyrant @OfficialShofu @juiceDoom can I get RT fellas? Just a visual showcase on some 1.08 buffshttps://t.co/hiC9NtQ2PG

— BAM (@BamOfThePpl) June 29, 2015

 

[Attila_]

The buffs are great, but we still lack tools in neutral.

Unless we get some of those, Falco will be stuck in mid tier.

 

[ZTD | TECHnology]

The buffs are great, but we still lack tools in neutral.

Unless we get some of those, Falco will be stuck in mid tier.

Yo. Enlighten me on something here if you don't mind.

How do you feel about the MUs with ? Curious about your input.

 

[Ffamran]

Yo. Enlighten me on something here if you don't mind.

How do you feel about the MUs with ? Curious about your input.

Please use the search bar or the directory: http://smashboards.com/threads/all-aircraft-report-falco-directory.398704/. Also, keep in mind that the discussions are dated with how Falco's aerials work now.

ZSS was our first rebooted MU discussion and lets just say it didn't go well because nobody even knew Falco existed in this game: http://smashboards.com/threads/ssb4-falco-matchup-discussion-03-zero-suit-samus.388504/.

Yoshi's a more fairer discussion or something... I don't remember: http://smashboards.com/threads/ssb4-falco-matchup-discussion-09-yoshi-falling-with-style.391290/.

We, like the Fox players, hate Luigi in this game: http://smashboards.com/threads/ssb4-falco-matchup-discussion-22-luigi-wingmen.396530/.

Edit: This music! It makes me want a Star Fox sitcom! Video: https://youtu.be/0JNQYWzDTWY.

 

[Attila_]

Yo. Enlighten me on something here if you don't mind.

How do you feel about the MUs with ? Curious about your input.

Can't comment on zss, I don't know the mu. I theory it doesn't seem so bad, but theory is often wrong.

Luigi is hard. He outneutrals falco pretty easy, and combos better also. I feel like we can abuse bair/uair/dtilt on shield to poke safely, but our follow ups are limited. I feel like we could probably edgeguard him efficiently, but I haven't developed the flowchart yet.

Yoshi is ok. We have enough safe tools in neutral and can punish him pretty effectively. Just be careful offstage; he dominates us there.

 

[ParanoidAndroid]

Yoshi is ok. We have enough safe tools in neutral and can punish him pretty effectively. Just be careful offstage; he dominates us there.

Yeah yoshi's side air is crazy strong, falco can't miss the ledge with a phantasm high or he'll get spiked. I've been owned by it a few times.

 

[Gamegenie222]

July 2015 is our time, that is all.

I'll believe when I see it man. You should return to the Pheasent life but I understand with the Fox game and what not.

The buffs are great, but we still lack tools in neutral.

Unless we get some of those, Falco will be stuck in mid tier.

Laser's less lag on the draw that is all.

Yo. Enlighten me on something here if you don't mind.

How do you feel about the MUs with ? Curious about your input.

Not a fan of any of these MU's . I have an old buddy who back in Nebraska for the summer who plays Yoshi and he bops me hard in the MU so I been going Marth or Robin with some ok result. ZSS i can't comment on it cause I haven't played the MU enough and Luigi I can see him winning IDK how much though.

 

[Cyro]

http://smashboards.com/threads/falco-skype-group.408630/

 

[Swampertrulz]

"Hands off my Prey!"- Falco

 

[MatrixNexus]

Almost got into semi-finals on a wifi single elimination tournament only using the bird.


http://challonge.com/TestNamesNYMTV

 

[Beach]

All those years of controlling neutral with lasers and now I miss it more than ever. But hey we mid tier now!

Although on a serious I definitely feel like explosive blaster has some decent use that would warrant it's use over the regular or other customs.

 

[ILOVESMASH]

These buffs were great! Now all needs is less endlag on Lasers and less startup on Falco Phantasm and Fire Bird and he'll be good again.

 

[IrrationalX]

Hey y'all, I'm mostly a Peach main but I've started playing more Falco recently, so I hope you don't mind me hanging around here

 

[Metamoonstar]

Hey y'all, I'm mostly a Peach main but I've started playing more Falco recently, so I hope you don't mind me hanging around here

More birds are always welcome! Though this thread isn't as active as some of the others on this site

 

[Cyro]

More birds are always welcome! Though this thread isn't as active as some of the others on this site

Correct, which is why I approve of the Falco Skype group. We currently have 9 members and the ones you may know are Zanryo, Domino, McDareth, and I. If you want to join you can add me on Skype and I'd be willing to add you to the group!
Username: izarakcyro

 

[Gamegenie222]

Correct, which is why I approve of the Falco Skype group. We currently have 9 members and the ones you may know are Zanryo, Domino, McDareth, and I. If you want to join you can add me on Skype and I'd be willing to add you to the group!
Username: izarakcyro

I will do that later. Username Gamegenie222

 

[MatrixNexus]

Correct, which is why I approve of the Falco Skype group. We currently have 9 members and the ones you may know are Zanryo, Domino, McDareth, and I. If you want to join you can add me on Skype and I'd be willing to add you to the group!
Username: izarakcyro

Username: nexusvoid1

 

[Ffamran]

I don't use Skype, but if you all can, try to get people like Liquid, Kato, shofu, Keitaro, GimR, Ally, Eshura, Larry Lurr, Manny Manito, etc. in the conversation too. Some people don't use Smashboards, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Smash Domain, etc., but being able to pool information would be great. Also, if you can, try to remember and post new stuff here or wherever too. Smashboards is like an archive.

There was also this thread Taureactor made: http://smashboards.com/threads/falco-skype-group.408630/. Don't skip out and let these boards die.

 

[Gamegenie222]

I'm not skiping out sir don't worry and as long as there is interest and discussion for MU's, tech and what not then the boards are fine.

 

[Cyro]

I don't use Skype, but if you all can, try to get people like Liquid, Kato, shofu, Keitaro, GimR, Ally, Eshura, Larry Lurr, Manny Manito, etc. in the conversation too. Some people don't use Smashboards, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Smash Domain, etc., but being able to pool information would be great. Also, if you can, try to remember and post new stuff here or wherever too. Smashboards is like an archive.

There was also this thread Taureactor made: http://smashboards.com/threads/falco-skype-group.408630/. Don't skip out and let these boards die.

I may have a way of getting a hold a of a few of those people, I have ties with some of them. Also, yeah that's the group I'm referring to. We won't be leaving the boards, it's just a way for easier communication.
It would be cool to have you along though, Ffamran.
Make a Skype for us!

 

[Metamoonstar]

Correct, which is why I approve of the Falco Skype group. We currently have 9 members and the ones you may know are Zanryo, Domino, McDareth, and I. If you want to join you can add me on Skype and I'd be willing to add you to the group!
Username: izarakcyro

I'm actually already on the Skype group hahaha. Though I would agree. I urge people here to join the skype group. Makes for some easy matchmaking. I've already played some friendlies against one of the members.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

The Kutthroats have set out to draw their character thanking Iwata for all he has done.

We invite you to do the same.

 

[SoSoGreed]

I main Link but they aren't so 'welcoming' so I decided I would check out the Falco thread. I like the small quaint thing y'all have built. I might join the skype group but I'll have to think about it.

 

[Superbat]

@ DEHF bruh. what happened to evo being our time to shine for falco? Good placement in evo nonetheless.

 

[Probalo]

Yeah, I would've loved to see more Falco reps at Evo. It was nice to see a bigger name like Keitaro repping Falco.

 

[DEHF]

@ DEHF bruh. what happened to evo being our time to shine for falco? Good placement in evo nonetheless.

Thanks and my Falco isn't quite ready yet :|

 

[Tino]

Well, this thread isn't very active, is it? It's been a long while since I posted here and here I am still a dedicated Falco user.

 

[Probalo]

Falco boards have been pretty quiet recently. I've recently switched from Fox to Falco. Falco just feels so much more natural as a character to me.

 

[Tino]

Falco boards have been pretty quiet recently. I've recently switched from Fox to Falco. Falco just feels so much more natural as a character to me.

Same here. Fox is still alright though but I have been using Falco more than him.