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Fact 54 - Mewtwo Is On The Way [Social/General Discussion]

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Smashoperatingbuddy123

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Meta Knight would disagree, Triple Deluxe comes out May 2nd, after all.

But I really do think Mewtwo will be left as hidden. I think 4 Pokemon reveals is good enough, considering 5 Mario reps and 4 Zelda reps have been revealed.
I guess ridley could stay hidden as well if his body is still not shown at E3

But anyway it is still indeed possible that mewtwo will not be shown at E3 and not till the 3ds release
 

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I honestly wouldn't be too mad if he wasn't in SBB:4, I was happy without hum in Brawl, it'd just be nice to have him back to his former glory, that's all.
 

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Well I liked this so I'm posting it here

Seriously you guys can't see this happening

:4charizard::squirtle::ivysaur: - :squirtle::ivysaur:+:4greninja::mewtwopm:=:4charizard::4greninja::mewtwopm:

I mean from the blog on how he picks pokemon squirtle and ivysaur ivysaur is almost less than 1% of being confirmed alone and :4greninja:Pretty much likely to replace:squirtle:
 

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Yeah were getting those=6(pika lucario jiggly)if we get a seventh pokemon who would you guys like?IMO
Sceptile since:
1.It could finish the starter trio(Fire Water Grass).
2.Gen 3 was never reped in smash.
3.It was my first starter ever(Pokemon Emerald).

My other choice would be Zoroark(Want Sceptile more still) but he was in the many pokemon in the Greninja video.
 
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Yeah were getting those=6(pika lucario jiggly)if we get a seventh pokemon who would you guys like?IMO
Sceptile since:
1.It could finish the starter trio(Fire Water Grass).
2.Gen 3 was never reped in smash.
3.It was my first starter ever(Pokemon Emerald).

My other choice would be Zoroark(Want Sceptile more still) but he was in the many pokemon in the Greninja video.
If we get a 7th rep its 2 scenarios

A a grass starter which would be sceptile most likely

Or B genesect most popular 5th gen (and plus zoroark is dead obviously from the greninja trailer playable not accually dead)
 
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Yeah were getting those=6(pika lucario jiggly)if we get a seventh pokemon who would you guys like?IMO
Sceptile since:
1.It could finish the starter trio(Fire Water Grass).
2.Gen 3 was never reped in smash.
3.It was my first starter ever(Pokemon Emerald).

My other choice would be Zoroark(Want Sceptile more still) but he was in the many pokemon in the Greninja video.
Well, if we got a seventh Pokemon character, which I find highly unlikely, I don't think it would be Sceptile. In response to your three reasons...

1.) Is completing that type triangle really necessary? Do we really want to add a character in just for the sake of completing a pattern?
2.) Gen 3 really isn't anymore significant than any other generation at this point. It doesn't need a rep.
3.) Mine was Mudkip.

In all honesty, I don't think there's a really good, obvious choice for a new representative for Pokemon other than Mewtwo at this point. All the other candidates for such a role are either de-confirmed (Meowth, Zoroark), or just seem kind of forced (a Grass starter). I guess that's good news for Mewtwo, though. If we do get six Pokemon characters, Mewtwo is the obvious pick at this point. I don't think he has any real competition for that sixth slot.
 

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Well, if we got a seventh Pokemon character, which I find highly unlikely, I don't think it would be Sceptile. In response to your three reasons...

1.) Is completing that type triangle really necessary? Do we really want to add a character in just for the sake of completing a pattern?
2.) Gen 3 really isn't anymore significant than any other generation at this point. It doesn't need a rep.
3.) Mine was Mudkip.

In all honesty, I don't think there's a really good, obvious choice for a new representative for Pokemon other than Mewtwo at this point. All the other candidates for such a role are either de-confirmed (Meowth, Zoroark), or just seem kind of forced (a Grass starter). I guess that's good news for Mewtwo, though. If we do get six Pokemon characters, Mewtwo is the obvious pick at this point. I don't think he has any real competition for that sixth slot.
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Remember him

I feel like if we were going to get a fifth generation representative, it would have been Zoroark, who had more of an impact on the generation as a whole than Genesect did. At this point, Genesect is in the same situation Deoxys was in during Brawl, and that obviously didn't happen. I don't find Genesect terribly likely.
 

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I feel like if we were going to get a fifth generation representative, it would have been Zoroark, who had more of an impact on the generation as a whole than Genesect did. At this point, Genesect is in the same situation Deoxys was in during Brawl, and that obviously didn't happen. I don't find Genesect terribly likely.
Zoroark is deconfirmed for playable he was in the trailer with greninja it just takes a blink of an eye of a pause timing to see him

But I do find it very unlikely for a 5th rep pokemon/7th rep for smash

I'm just saying here if there was a seventh rep I don't see any other pokemo. Than genesect (squirtle and ivysaur is easily going to be deconfirmed)
 

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Zoroark is deconfirmed for playable he was in the trailer with greninja it just takes a blink of an eye of a pause timing to see him

But I do find it very unlikely for a 5th rep pokemon/7th rep for smash

I'm just saying here if there was a seventh rep I don't see any other pokemo. Than genesect (squirtle and ivysaur is easily going to be deconfirmed)
Please notice that I said Zoroark would have been the the best choice for a fifth generation rep.

Other than that, I agree with you.
 

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This is still the Mewtwo thread, correct? Aren't there threads for Genesect or Sceptile in the other subforum? If not, you guys should make a thread for these other characters you enjoy.

Personally, I don't see any Pokemon worth including over Mewtwo as rep #6. The only question in my mind is, "are we getting 6 Pokemon this time, or less?" If anything, if we got more than Jigglypuff and Mewtwo, I would assume the next in line would be Squirtle or Ivysaur! Or perhaps vice-versa. But any Pokemon newcomer other than Greninja is exceedingly unlikely in my mind.
 

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This is still the Mewtwo thread, correct? Aren't there threads for Genesect or Sceptile in the other subforum? If not, you guys should make a thread for these other characters you enjoy.

Personally, I don't see any Pokemon worth including over Mewtwo as rep #6. The only question in my mind is, "are we getting 6 Pokemon this time, or less?" If anything, if we got more than Jigglypuff and Mewtwo, I would assume the next in line would be Squirtle or Ivysaur! Or perhaps vice-versa. But any Pokemon newcomer other than Greninja is exceedingly unlikely in my mind.
Yea it is I mean its just we are pointing out about other possible pokemon newcomers

But as for mewtwo his chances are still high from fitting all of the criteria of how sakurai picks pokemon thanks to the new movie the hint from him when the guy asked about mewtwo in ssb4 when he said we are considering it
 

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This is still the Mewtwo thread, correct? Aren't there threads for Genesect or Sceptile in the other subforum? If not, you guys should make a thread for these other characters you enjoy.

Personally, I don't see any Pokemon worth including over Mewtwo as rep #6. The only question in my mind is, "are we getting 6 Pokemon this time, or less?" If anything, if we got more than Jigglypuff and Mewtwo, I would assume the next in line would be Squirtle or Ivysaur! Or perhaps vice-versa. But any Pokemon newcomer other than Greninja is exceedingly unlikely in my mind.
Couldn't have said it better myself. Keep the Pokemon/Rep discussion relevant to Mewtwo and Mewtwo alone, s'il vous pl0x.
 

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It seems that any Pokemon with a humanoid shape and/or popular pick in competitive play seems to effect what Pokemon gets into Smash. Consider this, everyone use Mewtwo and we'll have him on smash in no time! Just remember that Greninja was chosen due to popular choice on competitive play and Pokemon in general.

The facts continue! Mewtwo was featured in the latest movie, he is also a legendary in Pokemon X/Y.
 
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Ok sorry for bringing up Sceptile and stuff.
Back to Mewtwo any colors you want in that weren't in Melee?I would like an Armored Mewtwo skin.
 

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Ok sorry for bringing up Sceptile and stuff.
Back to Mewtwo any colors you want in that weren't in Melee?I would like an Armored Mewtwo skin.
Shiny Mewtwo is an obvious choice for a color swap. There really are a finite number of alt. costume choices for the Legendary, though. Maybe give him a monocle? haha
 
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It's in the Diancie movie owned by one of the antagonists (alongside Delphox and Chesnaught, but I think Chesnaught's owner is actually a token helper character).

Let's keep discussion on Mewtwo, though.
 

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Translation: Mewtwo is the best.
If he returns, I don't think he will get the armor from the first movie as an alternate costume. His green color should be his shiny form, and I hope his model is updated to be closer to modern interpretations. Also, if he gets a mega evolution as his final smash, hopefully one of his B moves is replaced with Psystrike.
 

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It seems that any Pokemon with a humanoid shape and/or popular pick in competitive play seems to effect what Pokemon gets into Smash. Consider this, everyone use Mewtwo and we'll have him on smash in no time! Just remember that Greninja was chosen due to popular choice on competitive play and Pokemon in general.

The facts continue! Mewtwo was featured in the latest movie, he is also a legendary in Pokemon X/Y.
But isn't Mewtwo banned in competitive play?
 

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Most rulesets, including being listed/secluded to Ubers in the omnipresent Smogon. Battle Spot/Random Match Up/Rating Battles (where "everyone" uses him) and certain Tournaments/Friendlies/Open Competitions don't outright ban it, though that's typically because it's a Kalos-native Pokemon (can be caught in game).

Either way I highly doubt competitive anything have any bearings on what Pokemon make it into Smash. Mewtwo (and to lesser extents, Greninja, Lucario, and Charizard) just happen to be good, and would likely remain popular even if they weren't (Charizard pre-Gen VI being a perfect example).
 

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Well, if we got a seventh Pokemon character, which I find highly unlikely, I don't think it would be Sceptile. In response to your three reasons...

1.) Is completing that type triangle really necessary? Do we really want to add a character in just for the sake of completing a pattern?
2.) Gen 3 really isn't anymore significant than any other generation at this point. It doesn't need a rep.
3.) Mine was Mudkip.

In all honesty, I don't think there's a really good, obvious choice for a new representative for Pokemon other than Mewtwo at this point. All the other candidates for such a role are either de-confirmed (Meowth, Zoroark), or just seem kind of forced (a Grass starter). I guess that's good news for Mewtwo, though. If we do get six Pokemon characters, Mewtwo is the obvious pick at this point. I don't think he has any real competition for that sixth slot.
But isn't Mewtwo banned in competitive play?
Since when? I didn't even realize that. I'll have to check, maybe he is. He is an uber after all.
 
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Since when? I didn't even realize that. I'll have to check, maybe he is. He is an uber after all.
Not sure why you're quoting me, but...

Mewtwo is definitely banned in the competitive scene of Pokemon. In Smash, he's low tier.
 

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So, for those that didn't know, Mewtwo will be featured on a Pokeball in the next batch of McDonald's Happy Meal Toys. That means that it's at the forefront of the marketing for the Pokemon franchise at this point in time, which could definitely be taken as a promising sign when it came time to decide on the final Smash roster. Mewtwo, Pikachu, Charizard, Blastoise, and Venusaur are the only original 151 included – and given Greninja's inclusion it appears that there won't be anymore X & Y Pokemon seriously in contention for a roster spot. Just something to think about.
 

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So, for those that didn't know, Mewtwo will be featured on a Pokeball in the next batch of McDonald's Happy Meal Toys. That means that it's at the forefront of the marketing for the Pokemon franchise at this point in time, which could definitely be taken as a promising sign when it came time to decide on the final Smash roster. Mewtwo, Pikachu, Charizard, Blastoise, and Venusaur are the only original 151 included – and given Greninja's inclusion it appears that there won't be anymore X & Y Pokemon seriously in contention for a roster spot. Just something to think about.
Interesting. Nice to see they're still using Mewtwo for promotion. I agree with you about the X and Y pokemon thing; if we get a sixth Pokemon character, it'll be Mewtwo. Nothing else can really match up to him at this point, especially not from sixth gen.
 

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So, for those that didn't know, Mewtwo will be featured on a Pokeball in the next batch of McDonald's Happy Meal Toys. That means that it's at the forefront of the marketing for the Pokemon franchise at this point in time, which could definitely be taken as a promising sign when it came time to decide on the final Smash roster. Mewtwo, Pikachu, Charizard, Blastoise, and Venusaur are the only original 151 included – and given Greninja's inclusion it appears that there won't be anymore X & Y Pokemon seriously in contention for a roster spot. Just something to think about.
Pokemon x and y has happy meal toys and mewtwos of them

Another promotion for mewtwo

But isn't froakie in there and thats greninjas pre evolution

Yea mewtwo now promoted so many things to count as of today from the begining of his resurrection if we get 6 playable pokemon which is likely theres no other choice other than mewtwo
 
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Well, since there's a clear pattern of Mega Evolutions being the Final Smashes of applicable Pokemon, who's it going to be, guys?



Mewtwo X looks more masculine, while Mewtwo Y looks more feminine. At least, that's my opinion.
 

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Well, since there's a clear pattern of Mega Evolutions being the Final Smashes of applicable Pokemon, who's it going to be, guys?



Mewtwo X looks more masculine, while Mewtwo Y looks more feminine. At least, that's my opinion.
I'd assume it'd be Y, since MegaCharizard X can represent Pokemon X and MegaMewtwo Y can represent Pokemon Y.
 

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I'd assume it'd be Y, since MegaCharizard X can represent Pokemon X and MegaMewtwo Y can represent Pokemon Y.
Just to add to that notion; Mega Mewtwo Y is the predominant form that was marketed, the form that closely correlates to Mewtwo's stats (speed/sp attack, if I recall correctly). So it seems like the more logical addition, but you bring up a good point.
 

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Well, since there's a clear pattern of Mega Evolutions being the Final Smashes of applicable Pokemon,
That hasn't been confirmed, but okay.

who's it going to be, guys?



Mewtwo X looks more masculine, while Mewtwo Y looks more feminine. At least, that's my opinion.
Definitely Y. She was in the recent movie, and she was the first one to be advertised.
Also, what Scatman said. And also also, she just looks 1000 times better than X.
 

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Sakurai doesn't have a reason not to include him at this point. Mewtwo is just everywhere.

I actually like X better but I don;t care what Mega gets int. Just that he gets in.
 
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