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Kataefi

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Well I'm here...

Where is J to answer me, considering it's his thoughts (lol)? Mariah Scary: both nich and I caught nabe as scum when we broke down his reads on us both (in TT). Likewise Chuckie caught Swiss about a bazillion times looking into how he formed his opinions on us (but also various other players too admittedly). I do find it useful looking into how/why players are saying the things they are about me and how it all develops. I'll get to the rest of your post shortly. Don't read left4scum mafia... I tunnel hardcore in that game...

Btw I'm doubting your slot as scum. I'm not that unreasonable. I would go Dietz too if given the choice to lynch now. I still think there's something wrong with Circus but then I'm also thinking he could be a cop... I don't know. Dietz ignores me... switches to JTB immediately... engages with the mod as if to put that lynch through without reconsideration that you could be Town... now THIS looks opportunistic to me. looks moreso desperate survivalistic scumscumz to me right now

thing is i'm hesitant because when people mention Mylo, there has to be a stimulus that causes someone to say this. I'm worried about making a wrong decision here if we lynch, and it still looks like players are itching to lynch too quick which makes me think there's some kind of backhanded manipulation going on here...
 

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i am protown and if i were to judge your slot based on play id deem you as town. things im most confident in this game right now is:

scum between jdietz/jerkus
ive been mistaken on a townread and have to reevaluate them (cept ran/kary theyre ggs and i would make king them if this was a kingmaker game)
i should reread this game in its entirety

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oh and were not in mylo unless theres 3 scum and 1 sk in which case sk has been playing like a ****ing moron

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cuz i have no idea why people think im town this game and am sure scumve just been getting on my good side at opportune times

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well only recently. you didn't follow my vote on jaykay, i wanted to see if you were aiming to place responsibility on me for making a pick like you did to no lynch d2. i reckon had you have gone jaykay i would have questioned you why you stated you know dietz to be scum and not pursue this avenue further

it could be dumb... i don't think it really is... but your governor ability too btw. i'll wait til this is confirmed but after reading scum wars, i do doubt i'd be dealing with a scum governor in a small.
 

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that said i believe your top choices are no lynch --> jdietz? also throughout this game ive STRONGLY believed there to be at least one scum between jerkus and jdietz. what do you make of this? and can you please pm j for his answer to the same question (youre allowed to do that as a hydra)
Hmmm.
I have asked J, we'll see what happens.
I can understand thinking at least one of Jdietz/Circus is scum, not least for the way waggons moved Day 1. However, I don't have a strong feeling with regards to this, and so I am curious as to why you have a strong feeling this is true.
Personally, I am struggling to read Circus as anything more than null, and I think he is a good enough player that he could be doing it on purpose. I would like to know why he is pushing No Lynch before JDietz if he thinks they're both scum, and I am still waiting to see evidence from him of No Lynch vs. JDietz being scum distancing.
I feel No Lynch would be a better lynch today, provided I am right and he is scum (which I am confident of, and makes the most sense to me right now, but cannot be 100% on) because I feel he is more dangerous than JDietz.
On the other hand, I think I am probably more confident in JDietz being scum given what's happened recently (with regards my ? lynch), and I could give No Lynch one more chance to redeem themselves in my eyes. I've not seen any pro-town JDietz, so I'd be happy for him to die.
The only thing that makes me hesitate on JDietz is that everyone seems to want him dead. Now, I believe that this is because he is scum and the scum team (whoever they are) is bussing him. However, there is the possibility that he is in fact just damn bad at this game, and the scum team are piggybacking the suspicions of a few players to push one more mislynch. However, I have a pretty strong scum read on him, so I think it is more likely scum have kept him alive until it became obvious he was scum.
Finally, with regards to Circus, one thing that should be said; he accuses No Lynch and JDietz of screaming at one another but subtly pushing me, and says this makes them seem scum. But I've not seen any particular reason why No Lynch needs to go today rather than JDietz from him- and this makes me question Circus's motives to some extent.

So yeah, that's my thoughts more or less. Probably more than you wanted but sorry 'bout that. I think the play now is JDietz so we'll go from there. Unless I'm dead, in which case I hope this helps town.
 

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Finally, with regards to Circus, one thing that should be said; he accuses No Lynch and JDietz of screaming at one another but subtly pushing me, and says this makes them seem scum. But I've not seen any particular reason why No Lynch needs to go today rather than JDietz from him- and this makes me question Circus's motives to some extent.
this

what the **** jerkus?
 

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Gorf this is what I was referring to. But no, I'd be cheating to say that was my intention at the time so it counts.
Okay.

The reason I'd have seen it as okay is because "r" and "y" were not close enough for me to say "Nah it's just a typo" fairly, but if you admit to it being legit then okay.

In that case, we have reached a lynch! It is now Twilight until I post JayKay's flip!
 

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Jk. It was weird jd didnt push onto nl with me since he was his scumread. it wasnt genuine. but notice jd 'gave up'. Smells like a setup.

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my bad kataefi

um what else is going on

i definitely bull****ted that governor claim. kary you just seemed so demoralized but i still wanted to get as much as your thoughts as possible cuz i value the opinions of innocents who are competent. im sorry for making you think you were alive but i had no idea how to get you back into this game other than to straight up lie and make you think you were alive

also it makes an already hilarious mafia even more hilarious. i think this is like the 5th fakeclaim in this game
 

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marshy why did you hammer Jaykay when you were convinced Dietz was scum??? explain explain!
 

Kataefi

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didn't you state D2 that you had no intention of lynching J?

that is... why didn't you push dietz more here considering the amount of time we had toDay?
 

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Kat can you explain jd ignoring you? Did he have a scumread on you?

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Kataefi

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all 3 of my picks ignored me Ran which is frustrating when wanting to progress the game.
 

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Marshy,

No worries bro. You're not so cleared anymore!
I did laugh out loud when I saw it though, no bad feelings.

It was nice to go out on a WTFOMGBBQ moment rather than just another dumb QL

By the way we're town bulletproof.
Gorf always makes bulletproofs i'm told.

Go town!
 

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I dont see how a bp fits. Can understand why u guys clained vt instead

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i don't know if jaykay was being sarcy there ran...

I thought JK's reactions to the lynch looking back were quite townie because both J and Kary split from their hydra and continued to give information meaningful to them --> typically me and vanz used to do this when we felt passionate about something as town, and they obviously felt passionate about giving as much info about their lynch as possible which strikes me as something townie.

I do think there is a chance this slot could be scum based on their shaky reads and how J came to develop his read on me. I wish J got in here earlier and just had a conversation with me. curious as to his flip. omg this is nailbiting stuff...

ran tell me what are you thinking???
 

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Kata's vote on us and later defence of it is suspicious! Shouldn't have been on this waggon!
Could be genuine, being taken advantage of by others... could be more subtle waggon tactics!
PUSH EVERYONE
 

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marshy why did you hammer Jaykay when you were convinced Dietz was scum??? explain explain!
I dont like this reaction. Feels forced, like it had to come out so you still had a suspect.

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well because there was no sense of closure to my scumhunt here. J promised to come in but never had a conversation with me so i couldn't look passed what I was having issues with.

i'm sorry you don't like the reaction ran but toMorrow is lylo and we have to hit scum back to back to win the game. consider we had a lot of days left to discuss who to lynch D3 and instead peeps decided to quicklynch despite knowing to them other players were scum... can you see?
 

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ranmaru kataefi always talks like that. it is a nulltell for him

what is up katae? gorf is online so any more dialog you want from me you oughta push out now
 

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STRONG DISLIKE THIS

PLUS, POINTS ON RAN. PROBS TOWN, THOUGH:
So about RANMARU...

Also I wouldn't really be comfortable lynching JD before one of those two. Mostly because of how Kary interacted with Gard D1, whiteknighting him.
1. If you think I was whiteknighting Gargaglione then you've got a thing or two to learn about my playstyle. I wanted you to actually explain what gave you a scumread on Gargaglione, and you made it difficult for me.
2. Also, are you seriously telling me you're not up for lynching your scum pick (Garg/Dietz) for the third day in a row?

Also it shows Circus is scum too, which is obvious. His Read on JD is bull****, and you know it.

So please Lynch J/Circus with me tODay. I'm willing to go JD afterwards, I just feel one of those two will deff be scum.
3. Seriously... if making a bull**** case against JDietz and reading him as scum is scummy... Why does this only apply to Circus, and not to No Lynch?
4. Oh, and how can you be sure that one of Circus/I will be scum? And seriously, you realise that if you mislynch one of us that could be game over? Do you think we're connected or what?


step back and look at this

nlynch claims deputy. that is a backup cop

we have evidence of a UNIVERSAL backup. that means if the presumed cop were to die he would have TWO backups

what make you of this?
I make of it that No Lynch is town.

He is my town bro. I am sorry I ever doubted him. Just look at his play.

Does it sound scum to you bro?

Also I won't go on NL unless you vote him first bro
5. Hang the hell on... the question is what do you make of No Lynch's claim- so this is a pretty weird response, and doesn't answer the question.
6. Surely if No Lynch is super town to you, you won't vote him whatever, regardless of what marshy does? This doesn't sound much like town Ran, at all.


Well I have a guilty on JK.

He's trying to mislynch NL who has played in a townie way to me.

Circus is most likely scum with JK.

GG's. Marshy scum too.
7. Then a few posts later, before marshy replies.... this? What the hell prompted this? Tell me honestly this isn't just a distraction.
8. Oh, and all of a sudden you think marshy's probably scum? And circus and I are obviously linked?
9. Ran, if you go back to the questions YOU asked ME about my relationship with Dark Horse DAY ONE and use them to try and show we're connected, you might as well just claim scum now.




PUSH EVERYONE!
 

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Marshy why didn't you push Dietz if he was more meaningful to you D3 considering you outright stated you know he is scum?
 

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actually no... it's basically why did you hammer JayKay when you knew Dietz was scum lol

i'm typing well fast it looks suspicious at work
 

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Jk, I answered about the claim.

I have been re_evaluating my suspects. Especially nl. So many crazy things happened I keep gettin confused.

I just felt you and inferno were defending him hard. You were lookin for a big case when the reason was in ur face. I felt inferno got a bit townier but I still am wary of him

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BUT QUICKHAMMER marshy-o! damn! Remember this?

I just wanted you to explain, Ran. I didn't get it. See my reads end of day 1. I couldn't read him with pressure on, couldn't see reason for vote.

Ran your claim just don't sit right with me, i don't even know why you claimed. I'm not trying to push you now, i'm just putting **** out there in case people are interested.
 

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ranmaru please stop this gung ho "ITS UP TO US TO SAVE THIS TOWN" thing. it is obviously not going well and were probably hitting up lylo. im not being condescending or trying to knock you down or anything. im very confident that you are town. im just asking you to take it slow come lylo

speaking of which yall

do NOT let jerkus bully a kataefi lynch later in the game. let that play out
 

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Its kool. I was ok with claiming, since ppl asked my opinion if nl's claim. Thats why I claimed.

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