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#HBC | J

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Dammit J. You played incredibly scummy. Why can't you just ever be scum.
I actually have to disagree this time, I didn't play that scummy at all and you are more trying to justify a lynch that shouldn't have happened. The only thing that was there is my lack of explanation for my reads, but the points on me "sheeping" when I started the Kata wagon D2 with actual substance rather than what you did, then "piggybacking" reads was a bunch of not true stuff either. The other points just weren't real scum-points nor pointing out anything scummy towards me. =/

This game it was more your stubborn head wanting to lynch me>more than actually having the points against me. I'm honestly surprised it got pulled off, especially when Ditzy was still around in this game, but that is the sad part about rash/stubborn decisions.

This is just like Ryker mafia, where you pushed my lynch and reached for reasons as to why I as scum, but the fact is, you were wrong on both accords. I really don't get it because you used to be able to read me so well but its just like "...." lately. The only difference with Ryker Mafia and this game is that I had the drive to push back the stuff you pushed my way and also survived getting lynched. This game, no dice haha.

I also do not think Kary's play was scummy at all and was actually really good for his first game in the normal queue and it's purely because I was in the slot with him that he got lynched and that just...sucks for him. =/

*sigh*

Nothing to do about it now. You have our reads, you have what we said, you have our connections, and our thoughts.
 

No Lynch

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You know when Kira disproved that he was Kira by creating the fake 13 day rule? L knew that Kira was Kira, yet all logic said otherwise, and L was became lost and depressed. That's what I feel like right now.
 

No Lynch

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Soupa you take over the rest of the game.

And yeah J Kary did play really townie. Still don't get why he didn't like us. And his ran thing is wrong and you know so I'm pretty sure. Ran doesn't know how to play scum. And he is just really towny. Plus his reactions after the lynch and all that. And uh yeah.

No idea who to look at after Dietz.
 

Ramen King

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I kind of feel like you were playing scummy intentionally tbh. Or like you said you just didn't care about the game at all. I'm not trying to justify the mislynch of whatever. Your play was really scummy. It's the same way I felt after lynching Ran in Newbie 17. You were calling me indy for no reason, you hopped on whatever you could, and your reads did not make any sense.
 

#HBC | J

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I don't know what to say at this point. You are literally beating a dead horse at this point and for not even correct reasons.
 

JayKay

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Yo No Lynch,

You're scum, ain'tcha?

Either way we should have lynched you Day 1 bro.


Marshy? You really care so little you'd hammer us? Yaaaay.


Basically my recent thoughts have been to trust Circus; he hasn't really explained how No Lynch vs. JDietz is scum distancing, though given my lynch it seems more likely. It could be No Lynch + JDietz + almost anyone, so good luck with that.

Meh, I'm not going to tell you what you should've done, it should be obvious. Whoever scum are (my reads aren't the best) they're playing pretty damn well so far.

And whoever's town on my waggon... unlucky guys. ****ing told you to lynch someone else today though, right?

Yeh this game did frustrate me, but what you gonna do. You keep lynching my town reads!

Maybe I'll take questions if I can, before the flip?
Of course, you should've ****ing asked me BEFORE you gone and lynched us. facepalm.

Good luck town

:secretkpop:
 

#HBC | marshy

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smh kary. if i had a choice between d1 "shut up and die" hyper posting player and this new depressed one who didnt hop the scumdietz wagon when he had the chance and is congratulating scum when its primarily protown misfires then please give me the former

:phone:
 

JayKay

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Or you could suck it up and play with what you're dealt, marshy.
You didn't listen to me either way, so I don't see why you care.
You can either take the compliment or try and accept that i'm going to excuse your mistakes.

* * * * * * *

I also do not think Kary's play was scummy at all and was actually really good for his first game in the normal queue and it's purely because I was in the slot with him that he got lynched and that just...sucks for him. =/

*sigh*

Nothing to do about it now. You have our reads, you have what we said, you have our connections, and our thoughts.
J, don't sweat it bro. They'd just try and lynch us over something else anyways. Thanks a bunch :)
 

#HBC | marshy

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iight ive given you enough grief kary

NEVER thought id actually use this ****ty role but

stop lynch

:phone:
 

JayKay

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ROFLSAYWHAT?

Marshy if you are a town bro, you are surely a king among town bros

@Mod: Request Votecount

seriously what is going on.
 

Kataefi

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I don't know what's going on there are too many insomniacs posting endlessly around the clock

Marshy if true then you're likely not scum.

Let me get home

:phone:
 

Kataefi

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That's a governor role that stops the lunch. There was a scum variant in scum wars but it got so much flak I very much doubt gorf of all mods would use it again. Well have to see what happens obvs.

:phone:
 

#HBC | marshy

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told you i was a man of my word katae. i give you my vote and it turned out to be on an innocent. you scum son?

:phone:
 

Kataefi

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Sigh I'm town. Didn't expect anyone to get lynched in ...24 hours. Espesh when there's no closure to my questions from...anyone... so its frustrating to see restless behaviour when peeps have been spouting stuff about potential mylo.

Jaykay isn't confirmed town btw... Where did you get this from? I want j to answer my questions as has been supposedly promised from like the beginning of this day

:phone:
 

#HBC | marshy

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he was posting pretty town after hammah drop...is that a dumb reason to save him?

well shoot. i really hope he IS town considering i just singlehandedly ensured that hes got at least one more day phase. i also dont see why scum would kill him tonight due to having been lynched and a supposed vanilla

:phone:
 

#HBC | Kary

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Kata what's up with you?

1. You say you didn't expect anyone to get lynched so quick...
But that doesn't sound like your thought process here:
This is why I feel the start to this Day seems almost rushed/invasive... the honing in on players here makes me think there is something underlying that wants to build momentum on a wagon quick and I'm concerned about this. this is essentially what's running through my head atm.
well I'm waiting for answers to my questions first before voting because i feel we're at the stage where things need to be looked into more carefully considering the game's been on a quicklynch spree!
vote: jk

^i think it's shaping up to be j. who will join? :woman:
let's lynch scumscumz plz. join meh!
I even warn you about it:
@Kata: I don't think you should be voting us to put pressure on. Use a FoS or something, I know you have your suspicions of us, but I just don't think it's safe to be voting in these waters.


2. As to these questions you keep banging on about, if they're so damn important to you, can you please paraphrase them or repost them? As far as I can tell you just want J to justify having you as a scumpick from the start of D2, i.e:

Why would you state something like this and not proceed to take on board the value my thoughts are giving you?

I'm suspicious as to how that made me your TOP pick. The read looked disingenuous here... How can you justify that I played safe and airy when your thought processes were close to reflections of my own?
Also, the underlined is a bit of a reach; your opinions are similar but you don't make the same points.

You've made a few more posts, but there's not so many questions, just attacks on our play. So you don't like us thinking you and No Lynch aren't scumbuddies? That doesn't make us scum, and you haven't shown us why we're 'confused' or 'gung-ho' or whatever else you want to call us. To say that we're just looking for a mislynch is ridiculous if you ask me.

And somehow you don't seem to be looking at JDietz at all anymore. Dislike.
 

JayKay

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kata what's up with you?

1. you say you didn't expect anyone to get lynched so quick...
But that doesn't sound like your thought process here:



I even warn you about it:




2. as to these questions you keep banging on about, if they're so damn important to you, can you please paraphrase them or repost them? As far as i can tell you just want j to justify having you as a scumpick from the start of d2, i.e:


also, the underlined is a bit of a reach; your opinions are similar but you don't make the same points.

you've made a few more posts, but there's not so many questions, just attacks on our play. So you don't like us thinking you and no lynch aren't scumbuddies? That doesn't make us scum, and you haven't shown us why we're 'confused' or 'gung-ho' or whatever else you want to call us. To say that we're just looking for a mislynch is ridiculous if you ask me.

And somehow you don't seem to be looking at jdietz at all anymore. Dislike.
10hyrdachars, this is us
 

Jdietz43

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Don't even know what to say right now, if Marshy is being truthful then I doubt I can get anyone to not lynch me next beyond the fact it'd be a bad move to purposefully kill the town Bodyguard.


Honestly we probably won't even know for like: 3 days.

Because



@Marshy: Yes, that is a terrible reason to save someone. I do that s*** as scum to dissuade real talk between town every time. But we'll see if it paid off for us this time I guess.
 

ranmaru

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Wow seriously?... Ok I was really pissed. But, now I'm going to go a different direction.

JK, follow me. I think you'll like this direction better than Kata. Kat has had nice opinions, but now I think they are just wrong. Entirely. xD

JD, you too. Now it's time for your first pick.

Circus, we need to talk. Like manly men. We need to buddy more. I'm sure we can win this game if we do. I have been buddying NL so hard that I didn't have enough space for you. We don't really have a 'thing' yet. We should try to make one. Truce? At first, I felt your push on NL was like WHAT DA FUUUU but. I can see it now.

So let's go.

Vote: NL
 

ranmaru

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Look.

JD isn't a play. Nor is Kat.

You wanna lynch Marshy then?
 

#HBC | J

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Vote: Ditzy

Ran, is leaning scummier as of his last three posts. Deffo will wanna recheck him in the event of a Ditzy/Kata scum flip.
 

ranmaru

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Dude, how am I leaning scummier to you?

What is your opinion on NL + Marshy? (His latest 'governot' thing)
 

ranmaru

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I didn't ask if they were a scum team. I meant your reads on them, and reasons too. And don't talk to me about silly. I can show you what I see if that's what you want.

You also didn't answer why I am seeming scummier to you for some reason.
 

ranmaru

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Oh sorry I didn't mean to say opinion of Marsh + NL as in... together. I just use that to mean and. I meant individually.
 

Kataefi

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Alright Kary I don't have much time but let me just explain how/why I came to suspect J and your questions @me:

1. You say you didn't expect anyone to get lynched so quick...
But that doesn't sound like your thought process here:
If you take a closer look at the first quote that's in relation to the early vote patterns at that point in the game. Look at what it was in response to: #1128

When you warned me, I wasn't here. Sorry about this as it's not much of a defence as it is just bad circumstances. If I saw momentum building up I would have unvoted considering this was something I've been attentive to. 24 hours is a reasonably short time to me. There was like 6+ days until the deadline and plenty of time to look into things and I wasn't sold on you being the 100% pick. Suddenly people decided to quicklynch again, despite talks of mylo. I didn't expect this -> I expected Dietz/J-side/Circus to answer me and things to progress.

FWIW I voted at the time because I was leaning toward you being the scummiest getting frustrated by the promises J made to answer me and he still didn't, despite posting other ****. Made me think he was intentionally ignoring me here and I wanted answers to stuff I grew concerned about to progress so wanted to pressure here (mainly stuff detailed below). I also voted to see if marshy would join me despite "knowing" dietz is scum. I felt that was an opportunity to look into him - he didn't and I felt more content with him here.

2. As to these questions you keep banging on about, if they're so damn important to you, can you please paraphrase them or repost them? As far as I can tell you just want J to justify having you as a scumpick from the start of D2, i.e:


Also, the underlined is a bit of a reach; your opinions are similar but you don't make the same points.
Well... I think you make it sound unimportant here. Our scum reads were the same.

Additionally his analysis on Garg's play was literally identical to mine: #1001

Now look here:

The argument he had gotten himself into with Zen seems to lean TvS and Zen's slot is giving me mixed vibes, especially when topped off by Soup's weird play in the beginning of the game.
I said I found Zen's thoughts weird. Also note the bolded: I was one of the only players to point out Soup's weird play D1. The fact I was the only one would have made J go "ahhh Kata noticed this too".......... if he genuinely read D1 that is :awesome:

He also had issues with the Detective wagon as did I.

With many similarities across key events in the game, I think it's reasonable to question how/why I became his top pick and why this kept throughout with no reconsideration on me whatsoever considering he saw "gems" that made him "hesitate" on me... but then immediately turns on me as the player who definitely has to be lynched as if he was riding on the influence No Lynch created.

Why wouldn't I consider all of this something in need of looking into? I looked into this mid-D2 only to be repeatedly ignored.

You've made a few more posts, but there's not so many questions, just attacks on our play. So you don't like us thinking you and No Lynch aren't scumbuddies? That doesn't make us scum, and you haven't shown us why we're 'confused' or 'gung-ho' or whatever else you want to call us. To say that we're just looking for a mislynch is ridiculous if you ask me.

And somehow you don't seem to be looking at JDietz at all anymore. Dislike.
But there are a lot questions tho. Also it's not so much you think me and no lynch aren't buddies, just that you're lining us up back-to-back in a situation J stated could be Mylo... which means he's forced to make the best decision, and has hardly engaged with us to achieve this...

Regarding confused, I think I mentioned this in relation to your reads on myself and marshy. J stated I had been shadow-bandwagonning, yet so has marshy and he's a near-100% Town read to J... so why is this exclusive to me? It's even a wrong observation, because D2 my vote wasn't anywhere near shadow-bandwagonning lol... The reads look confused.

Gun-ho was exaggerated. I think moreso opportunistic is a better term.

Curiously where did the bold come from? I had just got into the thread commenting about Marshy's potential governor ability. I didn't really engage with any of my top picks at this time so i don't think i was ignoring anyone.
_

Gonna do a srs reread of everything as I feel out of the loop and can look at this at work tommo.

unvote for now ladies and gents :woman:

p.s. i'm actually Town.

#1001

This is a good start. ^Dietz/Circus can you go into details as to my questions here plz?

No Lynch I don't see anything scummy in that post I made.
 
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