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[ranmaru]

Yo nl. Y u think circus still alive if he isnt scum

 

[Circus]

Ninjas.

Btw. Nl clained you may have beeb paranoid. Seeing j flip town, wat dis mean?

Since I've received both "mafia" and "not mafia" results, it negates the possibility that I'm Naive or Paranoid. Since my result for J was accurate, I also cannot be Insane. Literally the only option for me other than Sane is Random Cop, and I refuse to believe Gorf would include a role like that in this game (let alone that it would get past a review).

As I thought. I thought you were either insane and investigate J and then me. Which is why I was so sold on J scum yesterday. I also considered the possibility of you being paranoid and having investigated Dietz first. Now I think you are either Random cop or just scum. I think you're more likely random cop however seeing that you've been crumbing cop for a while. It would be very wack modding if Gorf gave scum a safe cop claim with all this misinformation. So I think basically this is just an entire misinformation game.

That seems unlikely. Other roles, like the FBI Agent seem to be useless, not outright misinformative. A Random Cop is terribly detrimental to town.

 

[ranmaru]

Also dont c why there would be a framer in a setup like this

 

[Ramen King]

That's a silly question. Scum only has one night kill Ran. Last night was the only night that scum would know that Circus was cop. He had told JD many times to be on him. And we had told JD many times to be on you. Either of you dying would look bad in JD's case. Not to mention Circus said that if he died then we should lynch JD 100% today. So again that's silly.

 

[Ramen King]

That seems unlikely. Other roles, like the FBI Agent seem to be useless, not outright misinformative. A Random Cop is terribly detrimental to town.

Like I said, this is a scrap game that Gorf put together. And like I said, read Celeberity. It's not unlikely. For you to assume that to be the case is no good.

 

[Ramen King]

Also dont c why there would be a framer in a setup like this

God you guys are dumb. Stop making these assumptions.

 

[Ramen King]

I wish games were all Vanilla Town because people trying to make lynches off this stuff is like Epic Mafia.

 

[Circus]

As for your alpha strike theory, there are likely three scum. If I'm on JD and have two scumbuddies then they could have alpha striked when Ran was on. We would simply set up a time to all be on. So no, that is incorrect as well.

Not if your scummates aren't online right now. Obviously. Ran's vote was there for, like, 5 minutes.

There is also the possibility of Framer as well and you being sane. I've been telling since yesterday that your result is incorrect though. For you to put so much trust in it rather than actually look at me in an unbiased way is just bad play.

Yeah, Framer's kind of the theory you have to go with since the Miller already flipped, I get it.

Your play doesn't speak any better to your alignment; I don't know why you think it would. I fully intend to analyze all angles here (hence me not staking the game on my result by voting you yet), but your play does not look great, independent of my results on you. I understand you're frustrated, but that's not my problem.

 

[ranmaru]

My point is, that if circus is town, scum would nk him to avoid further ****ing them up.

But, him gettin nk'd would show his sanity. He has already implied bein a cop so your only out was to say he was paranoid or random cop.

Im lookin at ur play too son

 

[Circus]

Like I said, this is a scrap game that Gorf put together. And like I said, read Celeberity. It's not unlikely. For you to assume that to be the case is no good.

Scrap game or not, Random Cop is a straight up ******* role. I have a hard time believing it would get past Sold.

 

[ranmaru]

God you guys are dumb. Stop making these assumptions.

I dont see room for a framer since this is already a misinfo game.

 

[Ramen King]

Well I've already accepted the loss for this game.

There's really not much we could have done to win this. I mean think if I had claimed deputy earlier and then the back up flipped. That would have looked horrible. Circus being insane was a large part of me lynching J because I knew his result was wrong. But if you guys are really going to trust these roles then there's not much I can do. The minute J was lynched, we lost the game.

 

[Ramen King]

My point is, that if circus is town, scum would nk him to avoid further ****ing them up.

But, him gettin nk'd would show his sanity. He has already implied bein a cop so your only out was to say he was paranoid or random cop.

Im lookin at ur play too son

If him flipping would show his sanity then that's exactly why they didn't night kill him. Again with the fact that JD would be 100% incriminated. You do realize scum knew Circus would be coming for me today.

 

[Ramen King]

Scrap game or not, Random Cop is a straight up ******* role. I have a hard time believing it would get past Sold.

I'm really trying to keep you as town here. You're being unnecessarily stubborn. This doesn't even make since. It was a last minute setup that Sold probably didn't even look at. Plus it's not as if the game is broken. It's just extremely difficult to win with a town that plays by the setup rather then looking at the players alone.

 

[ranmaru]

No I mean you would be incriminated.

Its either ur scum, or circus scum. Simple as that

 

[Circus]

My god, do not even threaten me with that "I'm trying to keep you town" judo BS. Between that and the pre-emptive AtE and the lylo vote, I'm the one who shouldn't even be bothering to give you a chance.

I'll reread tomorrow (hopefully, maybe the next Day) and let you guys know where I'm at then. Everybody keep your votes in your pants and, to anyone to whom I've asked a question, feel free to answer.

Zen, we're gonna be buddies again after this game ends no matter what happens, but damn.

 

[Ramen King]

Ran you're stupid. Just have to say it.

 

[Ramen King]

Like how on earth would me town make Circus scum. That's the dumbest **** and Marshy was right about you being a liability. Circus is town. I'm town. You're town.

JD is scum.

 

[ranmaru]

Cuz he is saying he got guilty on u bro. Its obv he would try to ml u if ur town. In my mind its either u or him. Not a dumb concept.

 

[Ramen King]

Sigh I guess that's a little harsh. But man you're going to lose us the game. Neither of us are scum. Circus' role is just very very dumb. Or I'm uninformed miller. Or there's a framer. I don't really care what the case is. I'm not determining Circus' alignment from his role or setup speculation. I'm determining it from tells in his posts. You need to do the same. You've had me as town all this game. And you very well know that I am. I haven't gotten scum a single time I've been back and I'm not even kidding.

 

[Ramen King]

Circus why did you say to lynch JD if you die and not me?

 

[ranmaru]

Mmm. Well I would like to hear what others will say.

If we do lose, I will say I had alot of fun tho

 

[Circus]

Circus why did you say to lynch JD if you die and not me?

Because if I died, my results on you would already be pretty much clear and I figured people would get around to lynching you anyway based off of that. I told people to lynch JD if I died in order to make sure he had to take responsibility for his claim. With the bodyguard claim, I wanted to give him incentive to actually protect me if he were telling the truth, or to at least make sure he was left on the hook for my death. In an alternate timeline in which I died on N3, JD is definitely scum.

 

[Circus]

Also, I'm seriously done lurking this thread now because it's 4am. Bye.

 

[Inferno3044]

So we have a cop guilty on NL? If this wasn't lylo, I'd immediately be voting him but I can't really take the chance. Answer me this Circus. You had an inno on JayKay and a guilty on NL. With all of the time I spent trying to get you to claim D3 instead of refusing you could've just listened to me, claimed, and possibly have swung the lynch away from a townie. Why didn't you do that? That would've been a much better option.

Also would still like JTB and Kata to claim (did Kata claim already? I forgot).

 

[Kataefi]

alright well... i don't know what to say. this is a tricky situation but i don't want to overthink it. i'm at work. i suspected circus would claim cop but then I think you should have claimed D3 as well. why didn't this happen? also curiously why didn't you investigate dietz if you were leaning scum on him D2?

no lynch at what point did you begin to recognise this game could be based off misinformation? *teleports to dgames archive*

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Okay, so here we go. I'm going to kind of be working through the information I have as I type so I apologize if some of this looks a little jumbled.

I'm Gandalf, Town Cop (finally!). On N1, I investigated J and learned he was not mafia. On N2, I investigated No Lynch and learned that he is mafia. Last Night, I investigated JTB and learned that he is not mafia. If anyone honestly doubts me on this, I can provide you with crumbs.

Anyway, so I tried to push No Lynch hard yesterDay. Ideally, I was going to get him lynched, but my main objective was just to make my Night results clear in case I flipped. I didn't intend on full-on claiming unless I somehow became the primary lynch candidate, just for the sake of leaving scum guessing (and maybe even managing to survive to see D4. I thought that was a bit of a stretch, but here I am!). That, of course, did not stop certain people *coughZencough* from openly speaking about me as if I had claimed Cop.

This post was originally going to be much longer, but before I launch into any other issues and theories, let me get some feedback.

No Lynch, why did you and your scummates choose Marshy over me toDay? I can think of a couple reasons, but if I can get it straight from the tap, then even better.

No Lynch, give me one good reason to believe that what you are currently doing shows any pro-town intent at all. Why would a townie (especially any townie who is not a Cop/Watcher/a role that can supply a definitive result) be comfortable risking an alpha strike on another player in lylo regardless of how "sure" they are that they are voting for scum (this is where I remind you that you have been a driving force behind both the J lynch and the Sherlock lynch, at least)?

I threw up in my mouth.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

I bet scum has a redirector or something because quite frankly we're not scum and holy **** if Gorf made this game a total red herring and I have to consider circus actually being scum I will not be happy at all.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

ugh ugh ugh ugh Circus goddamnit dude we're not scum and a game led on misinformation is highly possible but I'm not just going to sit here and get lynched.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Sigh I guess that's a little harsh. But man you're going to lose us the game. Neither of us are scum. Circus' role is just very very dumb. Or I'm uninformed miller. Or there's a framer. I don't really care what the case is. I'm not determining Circus' alignment from his role or setup speculation. I'm determining it from tells in his posts. You need to do the same. You've had me as town all this game. And you very well know that I am. I haven't gotten scum a single time I've been back and I'm not even kidding.

Yeah basically what Zen is saying here.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

I agree that it seems pretty ****ing likely.

However, since it most definitely is lylo right now, I'm not in the business of likely. I'm in the business of definitely. The safest lynch from my point of view is No Lynch, and I think he knows it. All his vote on JD tells me is that he's confident an alpha strike won't occur. That makes sense if he knows that either one or both of them is mafia. And he only knows that if he himself is mafia.

Alright i'm gonna stop you right there because quite frankly if you look at our play you'll see that we are in no way possible aligned and this whole post is bull****. Everything JDietz has thrown at us is completely one-sided and based on small tells like role-fishing, do you really think, at this point, we're going for the hardbus? I want you to answer me clearly because part of me thinks you haven't even looked at it as much as you claim.

 

[Ramen King]

no lynch at what point did you begin to recognise this game could be based off misinformation? *teleports to dgames archive*

When Ran claimed Sleepwalker.

 

[Inferno3044]

alright well... i don't know what to say. this is a tricky situation but i don't want to overthink it. i'm at work. i suspected circus would claim cop but then I think you should have claimed D3 as well. why didn't this happen? also curiously why didn't you investigate dietz if you were leaning scum on him D2?

no lynch at what point did you begin to recognise this game could be based off misinformation? *teleports to dgames archive*

Still waiting for a claim broski.

 

[ranmaru]

Yeah mother****ers claim

Time to understand this ****.

Also I wanna play skype maf.

 

[Jdietz43]

I protected Circus last night btw. I saw how much NL waved his cop suspicions around and figured it was for the best. My other option was Ran, but I can't protect both people that the thread tells me to "protect or die" so I just let it be WIFOM'd.

 

[Ramen King]

JD is Kata scum?

 

[ranmaru]

Lol JD what was the "Ran I don't even know anymore" comment about?

 

[Jdietz43]

If Circus isn't then yeah probably.



Link it to me so I see what context it was in?

 

[ranmaru]

I literally don't know, it's why I'm asking. J was apparently town, Marshy was governor, You're still you, Circus won't claim, JTB is still lurking, Ran is... I don't even know anymore

I should probably just sleep on it instead of being burnt out in thread.

10 Charizards

 

[Jdietz43]

I was waffling on you hardcore after your continued attitude changes on Marshy and backing of NL as town iirc.