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EOI: Smash Major @ Perth for End of Year - go to page 3!

MTGod

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MORE INFO PAGE 3, POST 34. HEAD THERE!!!!

(First up, if you're strictly a Melee only player and still want to put across an opinion, read the following by swapping the words Brawl with Melee and vice versa :p)

Okay, so given the lack of Melee scene in Perth (we have Bringer, Quetz and, to an extent, Corpse...) I'm gonna try and work through an idea of a Brawl-only Major. I've had a couple of ideas, so I'm putting them through for public opinion in order to get more perspective on the situation.

1) ONE-DAY: I don't like this idea very much at all, given that if you're flying all the way across the country to compete you want to maximise your competition. Nevertheless, the ideas out there - this leaves open that extra day for willing people to go explore Perth and it's surroundings, or play more casual smash at people's houses. The only real "good" thing about this is that it'll cut down the venue fee by half, but that being said a $15-20 saving on venue fee pales in comparison to the hundreds of dollars that OoS'ers will be spending to come here. On top of that, it means the schedule will be jam-packed, not really leaving much time for any fun at all. 1/5 stars. Pretty much all the bad things here are for OoS'ers, and they are really bad for them :p

2) ONE "FUN" DAY and ONE COMP DAY: This is a more viable idea than the first in my mind. Have a two-day tournament - on the Saturday have a couple of fun (and free!) tournaments (an actual) Crews tournament, Random Character tournament, fun Melee tournament etc. to get people more into the social side of smash and "break the ice" so to speak, and also allow people the chance to have friendlies and money matches without worry of being interrupted by tournament matches. Then, on the Sunday, have the regular jam-packed schedule of Brawl Doubles > Lunch > Brawl Singles - people can still have friendlies/MMs but the idea is that this day is more competitive and hype. This sorta schedule provides the OoS'ers with two days of Brawl if they want it, but if they for some reason don't want to/cannot make it on the Saturday they have that option open to them to just show up for the Sunday (same goes for Perthites too). Moreover, it allows people that large chance to get a lot of friendlies with people so that less people leave the major thinking "I wish I could have played that guy more", which seems to be a common shoutout.

3) SPLIT DOUBLES AND SINGLES OVER TWO DAYS: This is the alternative I was tossing up with. Obviously the major pro is that the schedule can be very lax, which means a lot less stressed TO shouting at people to get matches done. Also paves the way for an afternoon start time so that people can sleep in if they wish, or show up in the morning for some socialising/friendlies/money matches/other smash antics. In the mornings we can also have pre-arranged free events as stated before like crews. Moreover, this allows us to have a larger bracket for Singles without worry of time restraints, which would be a major plus to all of the middle-ability players who aren't 100% sure they'll make it out of pools. The main con is that it sorta commits people to both days of the tournament, which I guess isn't too much of an issue for OoS'ers who expect a two-day tourney anyway, but for the local attendance it poses a bit of an annoyance if they only show up for about 4 hours each day, given the long commute for all of our smashers due to heavy urban sprawl in Perth.

3.5) MEETING HALF WAY: See option (4), but only having Melee singles, being played on the same day as Brawl Doubles. Then leave Sunday for Brawl singles.

4) SUCK IT UP AND HAVE MELEE AS WELL: This one will take A LOT of convincing. If we run Melee, not only will we more than likely barely make 16 entrants, we'll also be creating a crisis issue monetarily (as some people won't pay two days to just come for one) AND also be subjected to a chockers Brawl schedule unnecessarily. I realise Melee players would love to come over for the chance to play Bringer/Quetz, but there's not a guarantee they will be attending period, let alone if they're any good at the game anymore. Major, major drawbacks and risks to this, which I would only be willing to take if there were a fair few people who wouldn't come unless Melee was available.

There you go gang: discuss.
 

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With how big a perth major would be, i dont see the need for it to be 2 day event.

Melbourne has done tourneys that have probably had bigger turn out in one day, with all events (teams/singles for both games)

It would be best to do a one day meet, then one day tourney (or something else) rather than 2 day because it would be really bleak/spread out imo.


Also one other major note: I don't think ANYONE would travel for brawl only now days.
 

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@Redact: Hence the dilemma I'm in ;) But I dunno; I know Plasia only entered Brawl for ****s and giggles, and I only entered Melee for the same. I'm hoping this post will also put a light to whether or not people would come down to play Brawl only (because it's not like Brawl is quick :p). I definitely have enough ideas o fill up a second day if it's only Brawl, however I could very well on the second day have a Melee Singles tournament and a Brawl Crews tournament (I'm not talking about WA vs rest, I'm talking about 3-6 person crews).

TL;DR we could easily have a one-day event, but I think people would be unhappy with coming all the way here for one day of competition, but at the same time Melee won't draw anymore Perth people so I can't warrant a day of all Melee. Thus I'm trying to mix it up ;)

@Vlade: I was mainly referring to people in the Melee scene that would draw people over here. No one would fly all the way over to Perth to play Melee unless we can promise Bringer/Quetz (?), and even that's a "what if?" given the cost and the uncertainty of retention in his Yoshi skill :p
 

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for me it really depends on flight tickets.. which are normally expensive.. and ide rather go to... ionno overseas. if plane ticket is under 50, ill come XD
 

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If I could get return tickets for cheap I'd be happy to travel and enter a Brawl-only tourney. I wouldn't mind versing Bringer/Quetz/any other Perthians in friendlies throughout the day. Playing them in tournament would be fun but friendlies are just as good.

Also: I'm for splitting, personally. Less stress = more fun = definite crew battle.
 

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yeah soz youre looking at 150 bare minimum for return

tiger currently is about 220 for return (with fees)
 

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I'd fly to Perth for it.
Mainly because I feel for the Perth guys wallets in terms of travelling east + Perth's the only scene I have't gone to.
Although Brawl only is kinda offputting.
 

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$220rt to perth is actually cheap lol
and @ brawl only, would probably go to perth but not enter the tourney at all
 

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90% of the melee players seem to hate Perth anyway (well Dekar and Syke make it seem that way lol)

Depending on what time people have to be out of the venue, we could probably fit Brawl Doubles, crews and a Melee tournament all in the same day without having to wake up before 9
 

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Sounds alright, but yeah.

Too poorr

Many people wont be willing due to expensive flights, unless they could hire a massive bus and have a road trip o.o
 

Dekar289

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man realy i wannt go to perth becus of pteeere ur hes funy and the stories her tels it will be good but then like i want to get some money from melee to py froof my trips with dekar *(if he even goes or else caos but then he would beat me in singleso i hope i tem ietht him


i hope pete translates fate hollow atraxia
ok go now before i **** in your breakfast

- this post brought to you by redact
 

luke_atyeo

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10 hours?
where were you at son?
it was 18 hours
and it was the best 18 hours of our entire time in america, hands down.
 

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I suggest the following:

Scrap the brawl-only.
Make it 2 day.
Put in melee, who doesn't want to play bringer and quetz?
PUT IN MVC3.

Putting in MvC3 will make the trip so much sweeter for a lot of people. Having more than one game will bring more people over and your event will be better. There is significant crossover between brawl and melee and mvc3. People are a lot more likely to attend a major if there's more than one game they play there.

For instance, I went to PoO for SSFIV and melee. If I went just for melee I would have been much less inclined to go.
 

MTGod

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How about we scrap the brawl and melee and just get smashed :p?

But seriously, since making this post the Brawl scene has officially died in Perth, as opposed to unofficially hanging on via life support. Time of Death, 2100...
 

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How about we scrap the brawl and melee and just get smashed :p?

But seriously, since making this post the Brawl scene has officially died in Perth, as opposed to unofficially hanging on via life support. Time of Death, 2100...
I think most of us would still play brawl even if the scene has somewhat died. I know I would for sure.

And yeah do what plasia said and add MvC3 because I've seen a lot of eastern smashers are keen to play, plus there'd be more attendance from other communities that aren't smash.
 

MTGod

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EXPRESSION OF INTEREST!!!!!!!!

A mate of mine has started a club that's going to be running tournaments for fighting games throughout the year. He's planning on having a big final major tournament for those fighting games in late Nov/early Dec (pretty much the week after Uni exams are over in Perth). I have incentive to ask him if we could book the room for a third day so that we can have a Brawl tournament afterwards (so it doesn't clash with the other fighting games).

So who'd come to Perth for a three day fighting game major, featuring Brawl (and probably Melee if there's enough interest from Perth, i.e. Bringer, Quetz and that Peruvian Guy :p), MvC3, Blazblue CS, Arcana Heart, etc.?

EDIT: This will probably end up being around about 2 months after BAM if BAM is held at the beginning of October again. Too soon?
 

MTGod

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Yeah, this will all get sorted out this holidays, so should be plenty of time. Key word being "should" :p
 
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