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Emblem Lord

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Wait.

I remember now.

Master and Valor lack a counter attack. If they get interrupted then that's it. The combo ends. Master form is aerial combos only. So you can't do ground combo to aerial juggle to finisher. Valor form swings it's blades more slowly then Sora's normal form.

Wisdom shot ignores defense and Sora can shoot it while he is mobile. Also it can't be parried.

Final Form had slow finishers, but as I recall it does have a counter attack as well as ground/aerial combos. It also has magic.

Overall it's better to be in Drive form then normal form, but when comparing the forms within themselves Final is the best. But Valor fails for not having magic.
 

fkacyan

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I never got Final Form drive. I had used Master form like once because it leaves you with no teammates and no invincibility.

The faster finisher thing sounds good. I was wondering if Negative Combo was good. Thanks.

Donald/Goofy were more useful in KH1. They nerfed cure spam and MP regen.

What good stuff does the coliseum reward.
Master Form + Thundaga = ****

You can chain spells in master and final (And a bit in Wisdom too), and the range and power on thundaga is disgusting. Leveling master and final for me was pretty much flying around beast's castle (Most drive orb drops in a small area) and TWTNW Castle (Lots of weak nobodies that seem to endlessly spawn) and pressing that button.

EL, once you get Magnega and a certain magic level you can hit 99 by equipping Gull Wing, the ability that bosts exp when low on HP, and spam it on Pride Rock. Past that, there's no need to use it to combo. The only person who ever hit me was Sephiroth in the main game and that's cuz his upslash helps you combo him and does minimal damage.

EDIT: From Valor to Master you don't really need magic for any fight except maybe the boss in Pirates where you have to get all the coins, as Blizarra / aga ***** him, cuz he can't move if you spam it at him.
 

Turbo Ether

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Wisdom form's shot attack scales with the magic stat?

Also, what's the best finisher? I used Explosion for most of the game for it's AoE, but switched to Guard Break near the end.

Edit: Wisdom, not Valor.
 

Emblem Lord

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Reflect parries all attacks.

I know it will damage enemies if you reflect projectiles. I THINK it will do damage against physical attacks too, but it's been awhile since I played.

Also yeah. Thundaga was ****. Wisdom was better for Thundaga chains though I think. It's MP regen was a little bit better then Master's as I recall. Plus you still had Wisdom shot once you run out of MP. Master form left you with aerial combos only, which sucks.

Guard Break ignores defense. Explosion is for crowd control. Both get stronger as your magic and strength stats increase IIRC.

Both should have been on since you can do both of them in a row with finisher plus equipped. Or you could opt to do finishing leap after one finisher and air combo.

Honestly it really depends. For bosses you probably want guard break. Explosion is good for level/dungeon crawling. But there is really no reason not to have them both on.
 

fkacyan

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Reflect parries all attacks.

I know it will damage enemies if you reflect projectiles. I THINK it will do damage against physical attacks too, but it's been awhile since I played.

Also yeah. Thundaga was ****. Wisdom was better for Thundaga chains though I think. It's MP regen was a little bit better then Master's as I recall. Plus you still had Wisdom shot once you run out of MP. Master form left you with aerial combos only, which sucks.

Guard Break ignores defense. Explosion is for crowd control. Both get stronger as your magic and strength stats increase IIRC.

Both should have been on since you can do both of them in a row with finisher plus equipped. Or you could opt to do finishing leap after one finisher and air combo.

Honestly it really depends. For bosses you probably want guard break. Explosion is good for level/dungeon crawling. But there is really no reason not to have them both on.
I loved air combos. Ground combos tended to leave you more open, if you got all the enemies in the air they were screwed.

Beserk + Air combos = ****. that's how the guy killed Seph in under 2 mins without being hit iirc.

Protip: Grind the mats for Defense+ and make a lot of those and Power+ to max out both stats.
 

fkacyan

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I don't know if i'll bother with the bonus stuff in the game.
Whenever there's something I haven't done in a game, it irks me. Blizzard was really cruel to me when they decided to implement achievements.

I had to draw the line at the Gummi Ship crap though. That "minigame" is almost as extensive as the rest of the game if you count all the stuff you have to do to "beat" it.
 

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I loved air combos. Ground combos tended to leave you more open, if you got all the enemies in the air they were screwed.

Beserk + Air combos = ****. that's how the guy killed Seph in under 2 mins without being hit iirc.

Protip: Grind the mats for Defense+ and make a lot of those and Power+ to max out both stats.
sephiroth was weak. i mentioned like 100 posts ago that i ***** him in a few minutes using reflectega and stupid endless combos. and i did do the gummi ship crap and the mini games where u have to kill a bunch of stuff. it took forever and was basically unrewarding.
 

teh_spamerer

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Automatic reason why SO2 can never, EVER be the best RPG.

THE VOICEOVERS ARE SO FAWKEN ANNOYING. You should NEVER have to play an RPG on mute.
 

Eazy23

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maybe me and ether will get to fight in tourny. Thats prolly the only way we will actually get to play eachother for any extended amount of time.
 

dmbrandon

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Automatic reason why SO2 can never, EVER be the best RPG.

THE VOICEOVERS ARE SO FAWKEN ANNOYING. You should NEVER have to play an RPG on mute.
SHUT UP YOU

maybe me and ether will get to fight in tourny. Thats prolly the only way we will actually get to play eachother for any extended amount of time.
Maybe me and you will fight in real life and I'll then take your wallet. hollaatme
 

Max Ketchum

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lol hay guys im in dis crew now

Atomsk is a noob. I secondary Falco and MK (and I'm picking up DDD), I haven't played Ike since August.
 

MasterDaveNo1

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lol hay guys im in dis crew now

Atomsk is a noob. I secondary Falco and MK (and I'm picking up DDD), I haven't played Ike since August.
hey, are you the dude who i fought at inuis tourny and sd'd against like 4 times? wassup! =) atomsk let u in? i think its because you have some hot 20 year old asian chick as a girlfriend. lol!
 

Turbo Ether

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****, i'm trying to fight Sephiroth at level 52. His regular combo does 99% damage. I'm just trying to block and punish, since I haven't gotten proper use of reflect down yet.
 

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hey, are you the dude who i fought at inuis tourny and sd'd against like 4 times? wassup! =) atomsk let u in? i think its because you have some hot 20 year old asian chick as a girlfriend. lol!
I'm letting this slide. Next time insults are coming out. At both of you. Subject change is in order.

****, i'm trying to fight Sephiroth at level 52. His regular combo does 99% damage. I'm just trying to block and punish, since I haven't gotten proper use of reflect down yet.
Elixers, plz.
 

Orion*

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lol hay guys im in dis crew now

Atomsk is a noob. I secondary Falco and MK (and I'm picking up DDD), I haven't played Ike since August.
yoooh nice friendlies before =D

how far are you from montclair??
would you be interested in irl friendlies sometime ^_^
 

Turbo Ether

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Things left to do:

- Kill Sephiroth
- Clear Colliseum
- Craft Final Weapons
- Gummi Ship garbage

These are the exact same leftovers I had in KH1. Yeah, think I should just pop in Okami.
 

Emblem Lord

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You didn't make the ultimate weapons?!?!?!?

HOW CAN YOU CALL YOURSELF A GAMER!?!?!?!?!

So..someone please...catch me... I...I can't breathe.

*faints and then whispers softly*

f...f..*cking noobs
 

Max Ketchum

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yoooh nice friendlies before =D

how far are you from montclair??
would you be interested in irl friendlies sometime ^_^
I'm in West Milford. It's about 40-50 minutes from Montclair, I'd say. I just have no rides (boo, being 15).
 

Turbo Ether

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You didn't make the ultimate weapons?!?!?!?

HOW CAN YOU CALL YOURSELF A GAMER!?!?!?!?!

So..someone please...catch me... I...I can't breathe.

*faints and then whispers softly*

f...f..*cking noobs
The weapons would be good for like, Sephiroth and Coliseum, which aren't that rewarding since you're using said ultimate equipment to beat them anyway. Every other threat already gets overkilled. I think i'm done with overpowering characters in games from now on.
 

fkacyan

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The weapons would be good for like, Sephiroth and Coliseum, which aren't that rewarding since you're using said ultimate equipment to beat them anyway. Every other threat already gets overkilled. I think i'm done with overpowering characters in games from now on.
You don't need to have anything for Sephiroth except all drive abilities maxed minus glide, though it helps, and whatever wisdom's is. Just run away, wait for him to hit you into the air, press square to counter once he appears to combo you, combo him, rinse, repeat. Run away from meteors, whenever he does sin heartless double jump and smack his ***** *** in the face.
 

Turbo Ether

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I actually just popped in FFXII to take a look at my old file from close to when the game first came out. I don't remember how to play this game at all, and i'm stuck in a hard bonus dungeon or something. I don't remember how to board airship and gtfo.
 

fkacyan

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I actually just popped in FFXII to take a look at my old file from close to when the game first came out. I don't remember how to play this game at all, and i'm stuck in a hard bonus dungeon or something. I don't remember how to board airship and gtfo.
Set gambits and get somebody to walk up to things for you.
 

Turbo Ether

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I just have no idea where to go. Apparently i'm in the great crystal and obtained the esper, Ultima, prior to me loading this old file. I remember the great crystal being a very annoying dungeon.

Edit: Every room in this dungeon looks the same, and if I remember correctly, it's the only one without a proper map. Horrible place to load into, after not playing for almost a year. I found the way out after 30+ mins of running around, but the game froze before I could save. Amazing. Forget this booty *ss game.
 

MasterDaveNo1

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I just have no idea where to go. Apparently i'm in the great crystal and obtained the esper, Ultima, prior to me loading this old file. I remember the great crystal being a very annoying dungeon.

Edit: Every room in this dungeon looks the same, and if I remember correctly, it's the only one without a proper map. Horrible place to load into, after not playing for almost a year. I found the way out after 30+ mins of running around, but the game froze before I could save. Amazing. Forget this booty *ss game.
lol. that place sucks to be at. just find the way stones of a lower number to teleport closer to the exit (middle of the crystal is the exit). i normally just start a whole new game after playing again after a year or so, in order to finish faster and with better items, equipment, etc. thats just because i love rpg games. i hate to admit it but i think ive played ffx over 1000 hours total.
 
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