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MasterDaveNo1

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NJ must be rubbing off on me because today i made this kid cry in class.
thats not kewl. i like a lot of NJ (those i dont can go to hell btw). the way they handles some of the things, such as some people leaving EC wasnt kewl. it could have been done in a way that involved talking to the others and perhaps working out stuff, but w/e. besides these events, NJ is my friend and not something i want to be referred to as a bunch of a**holes.
 

Rykoshet

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No really, I quit.
I told ksizzle to stay in SWR instead of joining EC or forming 100% Juice.

EC didn't intentionally try to wreck other crews. Well, neither did 100% Juice, but it happened.

To this day, I'd prefer Dan stay in your crew to keep it from being too weak. I'm glad Rookie strengthened your crew by going back. I didn't want to absorb SWR members ever.

EC hunted for power, yes.

However, we never pretended that we didn't, and were pretty open about it.
Juice didn't wreck anything, man. If you don't regard the people who left without a word to you as friends then you lost nothing, good riddance. If the members were just power to you then whatever, big deal. If the smash world werent afraid of your strongest member you'd have nothing to worry about anyway between you waltz trevor jason and leo. Either the players were friends, they were utility, or some combination of the two but despite not being discrete about it the fact of the matter is that the means do not differentiate because the ends and the presentation were different. When my linkshell inadvertantly destroyed 3 other groups despite not necessarily meaning to do so, I didn't bat an eye because I know that they (and you) wouldn't have given a flying dog **** if they did it to us. Take the streamlining of the roster as more motivation to strengthen the core of friends you have left. If the members are nothing but ammo to you, then it's no fault but your own if you drop your grenade belt.
 

ksizl4life

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Juice didn't wreck anything, man. If you don't regard the people who left without a word to you as friends then you lost nothing, good riddance. If the members were just power to you then whatever, big deal. If the smash world werent afraid of your strongest member you'd have nothing to worry about anyway between you waltz trevor jason and leo. Either the players were friends, they were utility, or some combination of the two but despite not being discrete about it the fact of the matter is that the means do not differentiate because the ends and the presentation were different. When my linkshell inadvertantly destroyed 3 other groups despite not necessarily meaning to do so, I didn't bat an eye because I know that they (and you) wouldn't have given a flying dog **** if they did it to us. Take the streamlining of the roster as more motivation to strengthen the core of friends you have left. If the members are nothing but ammo to you, then it's no fault but your own if you drop your grenade belt.
looks i have help. i can finally rest. (plz dont tell me this line was used in movie or aine cuz i feel so cool lmao)
 

Inui

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Kelvin, your sig making fun of me for literally having a hurt finger (like it was some sort of lie or w/e, when anyone there knows it was true), isn't going to make anything better.

In fact, **** you. I don't know what else to say at this point. You know the timing of such a move is horrible.
 

CT Chia

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I know the Eazy argument was briefly brought up in all this, but if you think about it, Eazy argued that everyone in EC weren't truly great friends, and had strong crew ties. The fact that so many of it's members left only proves Eazy's statement as true. Of course EC does have it's group of great friends such as Inui, Atomsk, Dave, etc, but yea, Eazy was right. If he wasn't then people wouldn't be so quick to leave.

Now that it seems like a lot of players are finally seeing how much NJ blows lol, and I even saw Ksiz say he loves PA amongst other states, how bout a revival of the tristate sub-region make a come back?
 

Kaiber Kop

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Chibo- What Eazy said was only partially right. The thing about EC was that it had so many members(which I hated btw) that there were many different friendship groups in the crew. Most of mine that I taked to often went to Juice however I was also asked to join. Only thing was the ENTIRE crew was not cool with each other but with 30 people that isn't very surprising to me.

Inui- I still get along with you and don't hate you for speaking your mind but you taking this as a "betrayal" is just dumb to me. It's really not that big of a deal for them to leave EC and make their own crew. You have to remember that there is no "leader"(even though I widely view that as Brandon, sorry guys XD) in their crew which makes it a better atmosphere all together and feel like a crew. Be honest with me about this, if Kelvin, Wyatt, or anyone else that was leaving actually talked to you and STILL wanted to leave you really would have less of a problem with it by losing such good people? When you get over this I'm gonna like EC much more. Btw, I like Kelvins sig. It's funny :)

Anti- Making kids cry if they deserve it is not a bad thing sir :). I made a teacher cry in Junior year of high school because she could never expalin literature and I called her on it when she marked my **** wrong :)
 

ksizl4life

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Kelvin, your sig making fun of me for literally having a hurt finger (like it was some sort of lie or w/e, when anyone there knows it was true), isn't going to make anything better.

In fact, **** you. I don't know what else to say at this point. You know the timing of such a move is horrible.
uh that sigs been up there for the days lmao and everyone thinks its funny regardless of it being true.

**** me? LOL um ok. wanna be that way fine. if you want to be friends fine. if you wana be enemies fine. since you liked bumping up my losses with wyatt last season lets see you try beating snakeee all season :laugh: fool.

I told ksizzle to stay in SWR instead of joining EC or forming 100% Juice.
lmao u whole heartedly welcomed me in and NEVER made a comment about not joining ec, you power hungry meany person thingy
 

thumbswayup

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I don't have to tell you things are bad, everybody knows things are bad. It's a depression. Everybody's out of work or scared of losing their job. The dollar buys a nickel's worth, banks are going bust, shopkeepers keep a gun under the counter, punks are running wild in the street, and there's nobody anywhere that seems to know what to do and there's no end to it!

We know the air is unfit to breathe and our food is unfit to eat. We sit watching our tvs while some local news caster tells us that today we had 15 homocides and 63 violent crimes as if that's the way it's supposed to be! We know things are bad, worse than bad, they're crazy. It's like everything everywhere is going crazy so we don't go out anymore. We sit in the house and slowly the world we're living in is getting smaller and all we say is, "please, at least leave us alone in our living room. Let me have my toaster, and my tv and my steel belted radios and I won't say anything, just leave us alone!".

Well I'm not going to leave you alone. I want you to get mad! I don't want you to protest, I don't want you to ride, I don't want you to write to your congressman because I wouldn't know what to tell you to write. I don't know what to do about the depression and the inflation and the Russians and the crime in the street. All I know is that first, you've got to get mad! You've got to say I'm a human being GOD **** IT! MY LIFE HAS VALUE!

So, I want you to get up now. I want all of you to get up out of your chairs. I want you to get up right now and go to the window, open it, and stick your head out and yell I'M AS MAD AS HELL AND I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE THIS ANYMORE!
Apparantly, no one saw this post.

Fool. It didn't add competition. It just created an even more imbalanced situation with one crew absorbing top players from multiple crews. SWR doesn't have Kelvin anymore, for instance.



Yes, we will see how they are my "friends" in the future.

Unlike the rest of you, I don't use that term loosely. A true friend is someone that would show up at my funeral if I died tomorrow, like the old THP group. A true friend is someone I could see myself sacrificing everything for, like Izumi. A true friend is someone that gives a crap about my feelings, like Atomsk. I can't say that about anyone in this community besides a very select few.

It takes a lot for me to consider someone a friend, and leaving my crew in the manner that most of the deserters did doesn't help. If Wyatt considered me even half of a friend, he would have talked to me beforehand and expected me to care about his opinions. If Kelvin considered me a friend, he wouldn't have pretended to be totally cool with me and EC one day and then turn into a deserter the next. That's not friendship. It's BS.

Random people you enjoy hanging out with at tournaments =/= friends.
Inui, it may have been wrong for them to just abandon your crew, but don't you think you're overreacting just a little? You still have Atomsk by your side as your teammate and you guys always do well, and since you always proclaim your love of doubles I don't see what else could matter.

I figured out a long time ago Brawl crews are not worth anyone's time because there's never enough time for them at the end of events and it just creates drama between fellow smashers. If only you knew how bad MD/VA is when it comes to drama. We make this **** look like a teen soap opera. There's literally tons of despicable backstabbing, **** talking, liars and *******s in this area who are so two faced they put Harvey Dent to shame.

It's more important to just practice and get better with friends REGARDLESS of who's in which crew. It shouldn't matter. You're all NJ.
 

Kaiber Kop

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Apparantly, no one saw this post.



Inui, it may have been wrong for them to just abandon your crew, but don't you think you're overreacting just a little? You still have Atomsk by your side as your teammate and you guys always do well, and since you always proclaim your love of doubles I don't see what else could matter.

I figured out a long time ago Brawl crews are not worth anyone's time because there's never enough time for them at the end of events and it just creates drama between fellow smashers. If only you knew how bad MD/VA is when it comes to drama. We make this **** look like a teen soap opera. There's literally tons of despicable backstabbing, **** talking, liars and *******s in this area who are so two faced they put Harvey Dent to shame.

It's more important to just practice and get better with friends REGARDLESS of who's in which crew. It shouldn't matter. You're all NJ.
Well said and LOL @ the batman reference.
 

Orion*

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:[ this is why i hate smashboards. seriously. you all need to just get along lmfao. we have so much fun irl. this website brings out the worst in peoples egos. seriously.

if ZB had more peoples and SWR had kelvin//JG back instead of juice i think we could actually have some interesting crew battles :]

all this means to me is i have to step it up and **** more. hopefully my attendance will go up over the summer, but i know theres a few weeks i will be travelling. theres one week im going to try and hit up at CA tourny to rep if i can find one near oakland, ill be at a music camp there.
 

PRiDE

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hmm.. .. God I really want to go to the next tourn just to see if drama happens.. drama drama drama drama I <3 drama.. It is like a good reality TV show.


sigh.. back to my drama free life.... =(
 

Inui

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uh that sigs been up there for the days lmao and everyone thinks its funny regardless of it being true.

**** me? LOL um ok. wanna be that way fine. if you want to be friends fine. if you wana be enemies fine. since you liked bumping up my losses with wyatt last season lets see you try beating snakeee all season :laugh: fool.



lmao u whole heartedly welcomed me in and NEVER made a comment about not joining ec, you power hungry meany person thingy
It's not funny to me because it seems to imply that it's like some sort of lie. It's the truth.

I'm going to beat Snakeee, because he's 100% Juice, and I seriously don't intend to losing that crew. I got this next time.

I definitely told you that keeping SWR together would be best. That's what I told you at Doom's last tournament.
 

CT Chia

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what if they just didnt feel the need to be together any more. if ur so pro-swr then maybe you should have joined to save it. they could do what they wanted to do with their crew.

theyr just lucky they disbanded before they got absolutely obliterated by tos
 

Max Ketchum

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There is literally no possible way that I can view Kelvin, Wyatt, Max, and others the same way. I can't bring myself to root for Wyatt anymore. I don't think I can be super friendly with Kelvin anymore. The fact that they ditched my crew will always be in my mind. They ditched me. I might even go as far as using the word betrayal. It's just how I feel. I have lost a lot of respect for those that have left my crew.
I'm sorry, that's just stupid. Leaving =/= ditching. I left on a VERY good note and specifically stated that I didn't want any hard feelings or changed relationships. Just because I'm not in the same crew for a video game with you doesn't change anything to me, especially given that I never really felt like that much of a member of it to begin with.

I did not ditch you. No, I didn't address the problem to you beforehand, and I see why you're upset about that, but honestly, I still AM in your "circle". We're both active participants in the NJ Smash scene. My name not being on the Enemy Controller crew list doesn't make a bit of difference to me, and you shouldn't be calling me a traitor for thinking that way. You lose respect for people that leave your crew? Isn't that essentially setting a pretty harsh ultimatum for everyone in EC? "Stay in forever or I won't have as much respect for you." Kinda makes it look like a deadlock. Nobody left EC with the intention of hurting you greatly and making you hate your state.

I'm sure Kelvin had his reasons for acting cool with EC before he left. For example, not wanting to cause tension amongst anyone in the middle of a Smashfest that everyone was enjoying. Darkening the atmosphere of a real life event is much different than doing or saying things online. I know I didn't say anything because I wanted to leave quietly. Talking to you beforehand would probably have guilt tripped me into staying, or come close. Did I want to lose your respect? Hell no! I didn't want to have something standing in the way of myself and the creation of Juice, so I just left on the most positive note I could to avoid anything bad happening.

Like I said, Wyatt is a different story. I don't think it really occurred to anyone (except Ether, apparently) that he should have talked to you first. I actually kinda just assumed he'd cleared it with both you and Trevor, given that nobody had said anything about the matter for the entire weekend.

THIS POST IS NOT AN ARGUMENT, IT'S JUST ME STATING MY OPINION.
 

Turbo Ether

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Such a mature 16 year old. Someone get this kid a 30 year old, sugar momma. I think he's earned it.
 

Inui

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I'm sorry, that's just stupid. Leaving =/= ditching. I left on a VERY good note and specifically stated that I didn't want any hard feelings or changed relationships. Just because I'm not in the same crew for a video game with you doesn't change anything to me, especially given that I never really felt like that much of a member of it to begin with.

I did not ditch you. No, I didn't address the problem to you beforehand, and I see why you're upset about that, but honestly, I still AM in your "circle". We're both active participants in the NJ Smash scene. My name not being on the Enemy Controller crew list doesn't make a bit of difference to me, and you shouldn't be calling me a traitor for thinking that way. You lose respect for people that leave your crew? Isn't that essentially setting a pretty harsh ultimatum for everyone in EC? "Stay in forever or I won't have as much respect for you." Kinda makes it look like a deadlock. Nobody left EC with the intention of hurting you greatly and making you hate your state.

I'm sure Kelvin had his reasons for acting cool with EC before he left. For example, not wanting to cause tension amongst anyone in the middle of a Smashfest that everyone was enjoying. Darkening the atmosphere of a real life event is much different than doing or saying things online. I know I didn't say anything because I wanted to leave quietly. Talking to you beforehand would probably have guilt tripped me into staying, or come close. Did I want to lose your respect? Hell no! I didn't want to have something standing in the way of myself and the creation of Juice, so I just left on the most positive note I could to avoid anything bad happening.

Like I said, Wyatt is a different story. I don't think it really occurred to anyone (except Ether, apparently) that he should have talked to you first. I actually kinda just assumed he'd cleared it with both you and Trevor, given that nobody had said anything about the matter for the entire weekend.

THIS POST IS NOT AN ARGUMENT, IT'S JUST ME STATING MY OPINION.
I mean... I definitely told you that you're an exception multiple times, so there's no need for you to get so defensive. :bee:

Also, Kelvin better refrain from trying to speak to me until that signature goes away. I really don't like it or find it funny at all because it implies that I'm lying and makes a joke out of a real injury. I don't want to be near that at all.
 

Kaiber Kop

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Your john history is no surprise. Just reading it you can see how dumb it sounds. Besides, it's funny :). Not really a big deal I think. It's also not his fault that you stood right next to MK near the edge of the screen and couldnt see a Dsmash coming.
 

Max Ketchum

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Lucas, I'm not getting defensive over myself. It just hurts seeing my crew get attacked and called the "ruiners of NJ" by someone important...I know you know how that feels.
 

Kaiber Kop

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Lucas, I'm not getting defensive over myself. It just hurts seeing my crew get attacked and called the "ruiners of NJ" by someone important...I know you know how that feels.
No worries, I think the waterworks are all done.

Did anyone else get the tsunami this morning???
 

Kaiber Kop

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Yeah, it was quite a ***** this morning for me as well but not that early.

The first page looks so much better now with 15 members. Now all we need is pics XD
 
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